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5 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said:

Women aren't going to succeed, and why they voted for him and Republicans is beyond me.

 

 

Do you know that as fact?  Do you know how many top executives in the Trump organization are women?  Do you know that women in the Trump organization are paid equally to men and in some cases paid more than men?  Do you know that he hired a woman to be his project manager on the first Trump Tower?  Why would it be any different in his administration?  Because he wants to defund Planned Parenthood (which should be defunded)?  Because he made some statements in the past?  

 

This is is ALL speculation on your part, but that doesn't surprise me.  You also believe us Soldiers are brainwashed to look at our enemies as non-human so we can kill them easier (your words....not mine).

 

Fear is a dangerous thing because it can grow to hate, hate breeds and when hate is spread, people suffer.

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said:

That's because the old view that women should not be in professional spaces outside the home is still pervasive in certain places. 

 

Patriarchal brainwashing.

 

I need you to indoctrinate my wife to put that college education to work......so I can retire to Austin :headbang:

 

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3 minutes ago, Rskins06 said:

Do you know that as fact?  Do you know how many top executives in the Trump organization are women?  Do you know that women in the Trump organization are paid equally to men and in some cases paid more than men?  Do you know that he hired a woman to be his project manager on the first Trump Tower?  Why would it be any different in his administration?  Because he wants to defund Planned Parenthood (which should be defunded)?  Because he made some statements in the past?


 

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/06/04/donald-trump-campaign-pays-women-less-than-men/VIu0v2MUJiHqhvc5C0W5dO/story.html

 

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-casino-women-executives

 

There is zero record to my understanding that Trump has ever paid women equal to men for the same jobs.

 

The woman he hired to be his project manager at Trump Tower had some choice things to say about him:

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/25/donald-trump-s-tower-boss.html

 

Do you ever fact check your Supreme Leader, or just blindly follow whatever meme is spreading around on facebook?

7 minutes ago, twa said:

 

I need you to indoctrinate my wife to put that college education to work......so I can retire to Austin :headbang:

 

 

Look at you, yearning for the blue island in a deep see of red.

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At least they can end the canard. It was always a self labeled fake term anyways.

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-republicans-no-longer-care-family-values-article-1.2950482

 

KING: Republicans can never say they care about family values again for embracing Trump and shunning the Obamas 

 

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I'm stumped.

 

For my entire life, since before I could even vote, I have repeatedly been told that what the Republican Party values most is character, integrity and wholesome family values. It was my understanding that morality was the bedrock of the Republican brand. Nothing, I thought, excited a Republican more than a good, clean educated Christian man married to a good, clean educated long-haired Christian woman except such a couple with cute young kids and a reputation for honesty.

 

It was my understanding that this is why Republicans chose to reject Bill Clinton in the form of electing George W. Bush over Al Gore. Clinton had been impeached after he was caught lying under oath about his affair with an intern and the nation, it was said, wanted a clean start with a good family values President. In retrospect, putting all of my problems with his policies aside, Bush was indeed the stereotype of who and what Republican's claimed to value in a leader. His wife was a kind librarian. He had two cute kids. He had a reputation for honesty and decency. Doggone it, he fit the brand.

 

You know who else fits the brand? And I mean spot on.

 

President Barack Obama, First Lady Michelle Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, and Dr. Jill Biden.

 

They entered the White House with impeccable integrity and are leaving the White House Friday with said integrity fully intact. They are honest, sincere, kind, decent, gentle, grounded, compassionate men and women of reliable moral character. They are above reproach. They avoid scandals or even rumors of scandals. They play by the rules. They are faithful to each other. Questions of their personal character, morality and fidelity simply do not exist.

For eight years, the personal and public integrity of our President and Vice President has been without spot or blemish. The threat of investigations or National Enquirer-type scandals has not loomed for a single day over them. It's been a beautiful thing to watch and experience.

 

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17 minutes ago, PF Chang said:

 

Trump's nominees are insane. I'd be pissed off if they didn't fight against a Secretary of Education who wants to funnel public money to religious "schools." If they didn't oppose the CEO of Exxon for Secretary of State. Or a fossil fuel industry minion who is suing the EPA, the agency he's going to lead. 

 

McCain, one of the few Republicans with integrity, opposed some of these nominations as well. There are real issues here, not just partisan crying like you want to believe. 

Opposing is one thing, obstructing is another.  When Obama won, he won the right to bring in cabinet members who supported his ideology and policy desires.  The Republicans did not delay these nominations because of that reason (like I said, they approved 7 the first day and an additional 12 the next week)  Why is it different now?  Trump won, he should be allowed to bring in a cabinet who shares his vision without obstruction from the democrats.

 

Guess what, if his appointees fail, he fails, then in 2018, the GOP will suffer and 2020, everything could change again.  

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This...this is the country we are now. 

 

Texas pastor who calls Islam ‘evil,’ homosexuals ‘filthy' to give Donald Trump private inauguration sermon

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-inauguration-sermon-rev-calls-islam-evil-article-1.2951078

 

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A Texas pastor with a controversial penchant for bashing Muslims, Mormons, Catholics and homosexuals will deliver a private sermon for Donald Trump and his family shortly before he is officially inaugurated as the 45th President of the United States.

Rev. Robert Jeffress, who fervently stumped for Trump on the campaign trail, leads the First Baptist Church in Dallas and announced Thursday evening that he will deliver the exclusive prayer session to Trump, President-elect Mike Pence and their respective families.

"Honored to deliver sermon 'When God Chooses a Leader' for Trump/Pence private family service," the pastor said over Twitter.

 

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4 minutes ago, Rskins06 said:

Opposing is one thing, obstructing is another.  When Obama won, he won the right to bring in cabinet members who supported his ideology and policy desires.  The Republicans did not delay these nominations because of that reason (like I said, they approved 7 the first day and an additional 12 the next week)  Why is it different now?  Trump won, he should be allowed to bring in a cabinet who shares his vision without obstruction from the democrats.

 

Guess what, if his appointees fail, he fails, then in 2018, the GOP will suffer and 2020, everything could change again.  

 

You cannot be serious even tying those words. All the GOP did was obstruct the last 8 years. Any other narrative is a not factual. 

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6 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-republicans-no-longer-care-family-values-article-1.2950482

 

KING: Republicans can never say they care about family values again for embracing Trump and shunning the Obamas 

 

The Republicans and the Church in America have done more work for the secular and non-religious community in making the case for ourselves to the younger generation, than we ourselves could ever have. 

 

I am happy that the American youth is headed the way of Western Europe in terms of religious views.

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7 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

At least they can end the canard. It was always a self labeled fake term anyways.

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-republicans-no-longer-care-family-values-article-1.2950482

 

KING: Republicans can never say they care about family values again for embracing Trump and shunning the Obamas 

 

 

 

Do you really think that will end it? I mean, there are people that believe Trump is an honest man. 

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10 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

At least they can end the canard. It was always a self labeled fake term anyways.

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-republicans-no-longer-care-family-values-article-1.2950482

 

KING: Republicans can never say they care about family values again for embracing Trump and shunning the Obamas 

 

 

 

Paul Ryan on Charlie Rose this week said the same thing. When asked to comment about Obama the President and Obama the person, Ryan went on at length about how Obama was an incredible family man and was a great role model as such for the country.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Rskins06 said:

Opposing is one thing, obstructing is another.  When Obama won, he won the right to bring in cabinet members who supported his ideology and policy desires.  The Republicans did not delay these nominations because of that reason (like I said, they approved 7 the first day and an additional 12 the next week)  Why is it different now?  Trump won, he should be allowed to bring in a cabinet who shares his vision without obstruction from the democrats.

 

Guess what, if his appointees fail, he fails, then in 2018, the GOP will suffer and 2020, everything could change again.  

 

Yes.

It was the Democrats who refused to have a second round of questioning for the nominees.

 

It was the Democrats who limited the questions to 5 minutes per congressmember.

 

It was the Democrats who didn't fill out all the required background disclosure documents on the nominees.


It's the Democrats who are obstructing and being intentionally obfuscatory.

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Talking about nominees up for cabinet appointments being looked at now  Which narrative is not factual?  Obamas appointments being quickly run through confirmation process?  Go back and look, you will see that is factual.  No, Republicans didn't like it, however, they didn't drag out process.

As to the Republicans obstructing the last 6 yrs (yes, 6, not 8 as Dems had majority of both house and senate for previous 4 yrs), I am grateful.  This country would be much worse off today than they are.  The great thing, by this time next week, many of President Obamas executive orders and policies will be reversed.

If Trump and GOP fail, then in 2 yrs or 4 yrs, the Democrats will get another opportunity to lead.  That is why this Country is great, if politicians fail us, we can change them when we have the opportunity.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, No Excuses said:

 

 

Look at you, yearning for the blue island in a deep see of red.

 

twa wants to have some beers with me after I move to Austin! 

 

Just kidding, but I wouldn't mind between my hours working at some non-profit organizations that support abortion.

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9 minutes ago, Rskins06 said:

Talking about nominees up for cabinet appointments being looked at now  Which narrative is not factual?  Obamas appointments being quickly run through confirmation process?  Go back and look, you will see that is factual.  No, Republicans didn't like it, however, they didn't drag out process.

As to the Republicans obstructing the last 6 yrs (yes, 6, not 8 as Dems had majority of both house and senate for previous 4 yrs), I am grateful.  This country would be much worse off today than they are.  The great thing, by this time next week, many of President Obamas executive orders and policies will be reversed.

If Trump and GOP fail, then in 2 yrs or 4 yrs, the Democrats will get another opportunity to lead.  That is why this Country is great, if politicians fail us, we can change them when we have the opportunity.

 

 

 

This would assume they two sets of people are comparable. They aren't and your failure to acknowledge that says more about you.

 

O's nominees 8 years ago actually met the requirements set out by the GOP of that time.

 

They filled out the disclosure documents. They were vetted by the ethics office. They went through multiple rounds of questioning.

 

Did any of the mango mussolini's nominees get submitted to all of those GOP requirements? 


 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Rskins06 said:

Talking about nominees up for cabinet appointments being looked at now  Which narrative is not factual?  Obamas appointments being quickly run through confirmation process?  Go back and look, you will see that is factual.  No, Republicans didn't like it, however, they didn't drag out process.

As to the Republicans obstructing the last 6 yrs (yes, 6, not 8 as Dems had majority of both house and senate for previous 4 yrs), I am grateful.  This country would be much worse off today than they are.  The great thing, by this time next week, many of President Obamas executive orders and policies will be reversed.

If Trump and GOP fail, then in 2 yrs or 4 yrs, the Democrats will get another opportunity to lead.  That is why this Country is great, if politicians fail us, we can change them when we have the opportunity.

 

 

 

I can't wait until you wake up to the mess Trump and the Republicans will wrought on our country.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Rskins06 said:

Talking about nominees up for cabinet appointments being looked at now  Which narrative is not factual?  Obamas appointments being quickly run through confirmation process?  Go back and look, you will see that is factual.  No, Republicans didn't like it, however, they didn't drag out process.

As to the Republicans obstructing the last 6 yrs (yes, 6, not 8 as Dems had majority of both house and senate for previous 4 yrs), I am grateful.  This country would be much worse off today than they are.  The great thing, by this time next week, many of President Obamas executive orders and policies will be reversed.

If Trump and GOP fail, then in 2 yrs or 4 yrs, the Democrats will get another opportunity to lead.  That is why this Country is great, if politicians fail us, we can change them when we have the opportunity.

 

 

 

Do you agree that a sitting member of Congress should be able to buy a stock and then be in charge of legislation that can positively influence that specific company? Do you think that a nominee of a cabinet position should be well versed in the department they are going to lead? Would you want a commanding officer of yours to be extremely knowledgeable in any operation you may be working on or are you okay with rubbing stamping people?

 

Your obstruction comment just shows you to be such a hypocrite. Oh, poor nominees shouldn't be obstructed in one area (they aren't being obstructed) while celebrating obstruction for 6 years. Why don't you dazzle us with which executive orders you want gone?

 

 

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Honest question.

 

Can you imagine any Democrat today getting elected (edit..elected POTUS) (or heck..any support from the GOP) that had 5 kids with 3 different women? 

 

 

That's not a knock on the Drumpster...just an observation on how far the "family values" party has moved away from it's comfort zone. 

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6 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

 

This would assume they two sets of people are comparable. They aren't and your failure to acknowledge that says more about you.

 

O's nominees 8 years ago actually met the requirements set out by the GOP of that time.

 

They filled out the disclosure documents. They were vetted by the ethics office. They went through multiple rounds of questioning.

 

Did any of the mango mussolini's nominees get submitted to all of those GOP requirements? 


 

 

 

 

Facts don't matter to some people. 

4 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

Honest question.

 

Can you imagine any Democrat today getting elected (or heck..any support from the GOP) that had 5 kids with 3 different women? 

 

 

That's not a knock on the Drumpster...just an observation on how far the "family values" party has moved away from it's comfort zone. 

I just watched a conversation online in which someone said that Trump's actions speak louder than his words and he was DEFENDING Trump. When I pointed out all his actions that haven't supported the American worker, his response was "that's when Trump was a Democrat." That is what we are dealing with now. 

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24 minutes ago, Rskins06 said:

Opposing is one thing, obstructing is another.  When Obama won, he won the right to bring in cabinet members who supported his ideology and policy desires.  The Republicans did not delay these nominations because of that reason (like I said, they approved 7 the first day and an additional 12 the next week)  Why is it different now?  Trump won, he should be allowed to bring in a cabinet who shares his vision without obstruction from the democrats.

 

Guess what, if his appointees fail, he fails, then in 2018, the GOP will suffer and 2020, everything could change again.  

 

There is procedure involved just like with everything. They didn't complete it in a timely manner. This was something THEY had control over themselves and it wasn't done, so you really cant blame anyone but the transition team for there being a delay.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/07/politics/donald-trump-chuck-schumer/

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Llevron said:

There is procedure involved just like with everything. They didn't complete it in a timely manner. This was something THEY had control over themselves and it wasn't done, so you really cant blame anyone but the transition team for there being a delay.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/07/politics/donald-trump-chuck-schumer/

 

Procedures and ethics are for nerds. Git with the program librul.

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