China Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Alcohol linked to at least seven cancers – not just liver cancer Put down that drink. There is strong evidence that alcohol causes at least seven types of cancer, a review has concluded. Writing in the journal Addiction, Jennie Connor at the University of Otago in New Zealand says alcohol is estimated to have caused about half a million deaths from cancer in 2012 alone – 5.8 per cent of cancer deaths worldwide. She found evidence of a link between drinking and cancer of the mouth and throat, larynx, oesophagus, liver, colon, bowel and breast. “We see the risk increasing as the amount of alcohol consumed increases, and we agree that there is solid evidence to conclude that alcohol consumption directly causes cancer,” says Susannah Brown, science programme manager for the World Cancer Research Fund. Although the highest risks are from heavy drinking, people who drink at low levels are still at risk. According to Connor, there is no safe level of drinking when it comes to cancer. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Did they break that down to beer, wine, spirits? Or what about % alcohol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I see a lot of correlation data but no causation facts. A little speculation about dna mutations but that's it. One could assume that people that are prone to excessive amount of alcohol consumption are also prone to other significantly unhealthy behaviors, any of which could contribute to their cancer risk. For instance, one of the cancers they specifically mention is throat/mouth cancer. If heavy drinkers are also more likely to be smokers, would that not explain that particular correlation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmySmith Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I'll stick with beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 My doctor once said "Just about everybody has cancer in their body. Its just a matter of something else getting you first, otherwise if you live long enough you'll get it." That was encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 When will they release the study correlating breathing with cancer risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 When will they release the study correlating breathing with cancer risk? Damn you. I was just going to post that... Studies have shown that 100% of people with cancer drink water and breath air. These 2 things combined increase your risk of cancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 Did they break that down to beer, wine, spirits? Or what about % alcohol? Here's the paper rather than just a news summary: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.13477/full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I see a lot of correlation data but no causation facts. A little speculation about dna mutations but that's it. One could assume that people that are prone to excessive amount of alcohol consumption are also prone to other significantly unhealthy behaviors, any of which could contribute to their cancer risk. For instance, one of the cancers they specifically mention is throat/mouth cancer. If heavy drinkers are also more likely to be smokers, would that not explain that particular correlation? There is very little doubt that acetaldehyde, a metabolite of ethanol, is a mutagen. The work on that is quite old http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3122032 In addition, ethanol affects extra-cellular and membrane structures, which affects the ability of cells to control what comes in and out of the cells, and therefore may make them more susceptible to being exposed to carcinogens that they normally would be protected from. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16000402 In general, researchers are smart enough to understand that there might be other factors and will try and take them into account. Obviously, it is impossible to control for every factor, but given what is know of the effects and fates of ethanol, the idea isn't that controversial Realistically, this is one of those things that I thought people knew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Can we just get a list of what things in this world DON'T cause cancer nowadays? Seems like that would be a much shorter list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Can we just get a list of what things in this world DON'T cause cancer nowadays? Seems like that would be a much shorter list. That list would be empty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBass1724 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 My doctor once said "Just about everybody has cancer in their body. Its just a matter of something else getting you first, otherwise if you live long enough you'll get it." That was encouraging. So basically, breathing causes cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Ha, people will put up with damn near anything but threaten their booze and they're up in arms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Ha, people will put up with damn near anything but threaten their booze and they're up in arms! Ever hear of prohibition I don't think anyone is "up in arms" just stating that everything seems to potentially cause cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Ever hear of prohibition I don't think anyone is "up in arms" just stating that everything seems to potentially cause cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Ha, people will put up with damn near anything but threaten their booze and they're up in arms! My arms are up!! Want me to get out and vote against you??? Take away my booze!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 So basically, breathing causes cancer. Yes. I mean, do you have any idea what Oxygen does to your body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Yes. I mean, do you have any idea what Oxygen does to your body? Or dihydrogen monoxide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 One of these days they are going to tell us that farts cause cancer, it's like 2nd hand smoke. Then my ex wife is going to find out and sue me for holding her head under the blanket lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velocet Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm 97,90,93,100, 99 --------->ages some of my relatives made it to. Plenty of factors in play, I get that. One common thread for sure: no alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxiumone Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm 97,90,93,100, 99 --------->ages some of my relatives made it to. Plenty of factors in play, I get that. One common thread for sure: no alcohol. 101 92 89 94. My grandparents age all drank bourbon every night. See antidotal evidence two can play that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm 97,90,93,100, 99 --------->ages some of my relatives made it to. Plenty of factors in play, I get that. One common thread for sure: no alcohol. My grandfather lived till 97...drank wine...lots of it everyday of his life..in fact lots of relatives on that side drank alot all lived till their 90s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Linking one factor to a result is not the same thing as causation. Not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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