clskinsfan Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Pretty happy with my picks for Atlanta. I obviously badly over valued Ragland. But my top 4 picks are all gone the first 3 rounds. I think Ragland is going to the perfect team for him tough. Rex will us him in a role he excels at. A downhill thumper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Pretty happy with my picks for Atlanta. I obviously badly over valued Ragland. But my top 4 picks are all gone the first 3 rounds. I think Ragland is going to the perfect team for him tough. Rex will us him in a role he excels at. A downhill thumper. You can, my 3rd round will reach Round 5, and Round 4 as well... I'm gonna look like crap (as if that was something new for many, I hate it when it becames publicly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRagone Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Cardale Jones will likely screw me, while Jihad Ward and Blake Martinez will help me out. Never mind, Jones just got taken. Hurts, but not horribly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epochalypse Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 Rounds 4, 5, 6 and 7. Browns - +73 (and another kudos), -11, -21 Cowboys - +17, -6, +5 (kudos) Vikings - -35, -51 Bears - -1, +5, +48, -64, -12 Cardinals - -163 Packers - -63 (but a kudos), +21 Titans - +2, -52, -6 Panthers - +78*, +48*, -57, +89* Texans - +4, -121 Dolphins - +123, +22, -61 Colts - -79, +21 Raiders - +50, -28, +36, -10, -54, -77, -88 Bengals - -16, +17 Jets - -19, -2, -109 Ravens - -21, +32, -111 Falcons - +23, -56 Chiefs - +72, -63, -67 Broncos - +23, -37, +38, +16 (kudos), -12 49ers - +65*, +93*, +21*, +104*, -123, +12*, -59*, -17* Redskins - -34, -89, -89 Buccaneers - +42, +89 (and a kudos), -37 Giants - -76, -54 Seahawks - +52, +18, +48 Eagles - +73, -57, -1, -109 Saints - -39, -32 Steelers - +122, -3, -29, -144 Patriots - -5, -32, -10, +36 (kudos) Lions - -106, +11, +27, -57, -76, -38, -12 Chargers - +65, +100, -70, +24, -34, -168 Rams - -72, -136 Bills - -51, -9 Jaguars - +66, +8, -181 *players taken for those teams by the Bears FO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Wrong thread. Continue on. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Blair off the board in the 5th. Love his value there, but think its clear he was a reach here. Still like that you chose your guy and went with him, but this draft is showing far more than usual that what we think we "know" about player value and what NFL teams actually think about player value are on two different planets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 My 4th round isn't looking so good right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Cole Toner just drafted. Went undrafted in our mock, but I took a hard look at him when I was looking at O-line before I went with Murphy (who still hasn't gone in the real draft) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 My 4th round isn't looking so good right now. My 3/4/5 are looking bad... Feel like my 3rd will go undrafted... Can't believe it. On the other hand, my Punter and my last pick Janovich both went early in the 6th... Go figures... If things keeps on going this way, with at least 3 or 4 of my picks that will went undrafted, I'll officially retire from next years draft so I don't ampered those guys chances of living their dreams in the NFL as I seem to curse all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epochalypse Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 If things keeps on going this way, with at least 3 or 4 of my picks that will went undrafted, I'll officially retire from next years draft so I don't ampered those guys chances of living their dreams in the NFL as I seem to curse all of them. On behalf of all the other GMs, please participate again next year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epochalypse Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 Harlan Miller, you are killing me Apparently the Cardinals war room guys were reading this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Doughty is gonna kill me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just got back from running errands. I see the Packers took Kyle Murphy while I was away. Woo! I picked the correct player for them! ... two rounds early. If things keeps on going this way, with at least 3 or 4 of my picks that will went undrafted, I'll officially retire from next years draft so I don't ampered those guys chances of living their dreams in the NFL as I seem to curse all of them.aww, don't let that get you down. I had 3 undrafted players last year and came back this year with two firsts and two thirds (plus trading for a second next year) despite picking near the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrison J Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Lasco and Vernon Adams gonna make me look bad. Still believe they'll show up on the field though eventually even though admittedly they are pretty raw prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Well, outside of Mike Thomas, I feel pretty good about the value I got... but I think that pick will negate all the good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Two picks left in the draft and I've got two guys still not drafted. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Recap of my draft: 5. Jacksonville Jaguars - VERNON HARGREAVES III, CB, Florida - Pick 11 (-6) 47. Jacksonville Jaguars (from New Orleans Saints) - LE'RAVEN CLARK, OL, Texas Tech - Pick 82 (-35) 69. Jacksonville Jaguars - SCOOBY WRIGHT III, ILB, Arizona - Pick 250 (-181) 103. Jacksonville Jaguars- JACK ALLEN, C, Michigan St - Undrafted (-151) 146. Jacksonville Jaguars - JAMES COWSER, DE, Southern Utah - Undrafted (-108) 181. Jacksonville Jaguars - DARRELL GREENE, G, San Diego St - Undrafted (-73) 187. Jacksonville Jaguars (through Washington Redskins (from Saints)) - DREW KASER, P, Texas A&M - Pick 179 (+8) 201. Jacksonville Jaguars (from Steelers) - MIKE BERCOVICI, QB, Arizona St - Undrafted (-53) 226. Jacksonville Jaguars - LAQUAN MCGOWAN, FORCE OF NATURE, Baylor - Undrafted (-27)242. Jacksonville Jaguars (from Washington Redskins) - ANDY JANOVICH, FB, Nebraska - Pick 176 (+66) Got 5 guys that went undrafted, could have been 6 if Cleveland wasn't nice enough to pick Scooby at the end of the 7th... That total is -560... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIKKI8 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I'm already looking forward to the next ES mock. The Browns already have extra picks from this year's trade down's. I hope I can get them again since I've had them the last two year's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epochalypse Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 And here are those who went undrafted in real life. 80 - JEREMY CASH - Ravens 84 - SHAWN OAKMAN - Cowboys 103 - JACK ALLEN - Jaguars 105 - LANDON TURNER - 49ers 116 - DOMINIQUE ALEXANDER - Colts 117 - KEYARRIS GARRETT - Bills 122 - BENIQUEZ BROWN - Bengals 124 - ERIC STRIKER - Seahawks 131 - JOSH FERGUSON - Packers 146 - JAMES COWSER - Jaguars 158 - DOMINIQUE ROBERTSON - Redskins 164 - JASON FANAIKA - Eagles 170 - JONATHAN JONES - Cardinals 176 - VICTOR OCHI - Browns 181 - DARRELL GREENE - Jaguars 182 - MORGAN BURNS - Ravens 183 - TYVIS POWELL - Buccaneers 184 - GERONIMO ALLISON - Giants 186 - DE'RUNNYA WILSON - Dolphins 190 - BRYCE WILLIAMS - Rams 193 - DEVON CAJUSTE - Titans 195 - STEPHEN ANDERSON - Texans 200 - NILE LAWRENCE-STAMPLE - Packers 201 - MIKE BERCOVICI - Jaguars 202 - LLOYD CARRIGNTON - Lions 206 - ROY ROBERTSON-HARRIS - Bears 207 - VERNON ADAMS - Jets 208 - GLENN GRONKOWSKI - Patriots 210 - CONNOR WUJCIAK - Lions 212 - TERRENCE SMITH - Cowboys 214 - MARQUEZ NORTH - Patriots 216 - PAUL MCROBERTS - Cowboys 218 - JAYDEN MICKENS - Bills 220 - JARED NORRIS - Steelers 221 - JUSTIN ZIMMER - Patriots 222- KEVIN PETERSON - Titans 223 - DARIUS LATHAM - Browns 226 - LAQUAN MCGOWAN - Jaguars 230 - TOM HACKETT - Vikings 231 - WILL ANTHONY - Dolphins 233 - LUTHER MADDY - Eagles 234 - MARSHAUN COPRICH - Raiders 237 - BRIEAN BODDY-CALHOUN - Saints 238 - BEN BRAUNECKER - Falcons 243 - ROGER LEWIS - Patriots 245 - DENVER KIRKLAND - Bengals 246 - AVERY YOUNG - Steelers 249 - JAY LEE - Dolphins 251 - AZIZ ****TU - Eagles 253 - SILVERBERRY MOUHOUN - Broncos That's right, 50 folks we drafted went undrafted. I'll have to see if anyone escaped without anyone on this list. I know I didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 That's right, 50 folks we drafted went undrafted. I'll have to see if anyone escaped without anyone on this list. I know I didn't. I think its going to be skewed unfavorably towards teams that had multiple picks in the 7th round, which if I recall were a bunch of teams. Not much difference between a 7th rounder and an undrafted guy. Even Scot arguably bombed in the 7th round last year, most do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epochalypse Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 I will do a recap by combining my post-day 2 numbers with today's numbers as well as figuring out the undrafted after I get my kids to bed. Also will put together a synopsis of my picks (Bears, as well as Panthers and 49ers) for skinfan57. I ask that everyone please do so as well, or at the very least let me know and I can do it for them to ease his number crunching. And before anyone feels bad about themselves after they now see how the real draft unfolded, remember all this tells us is where these folks went and says nothing for how they will turn out when they hit the field. I think its going to be skewed unfavorably towards teams that had multiple picks in the 7th round, which if I recall were a bunch of teams. Not much difference between a 7th rounder and an undrafted guy. Even Scot arguably bombed in the 7th round last year, most do. That's fair, but only 15 of those names were in the 7th round. 35 were 6th and above. But when it comes to the numbers all undrafted will only count as pick 254, so they will also not be too large a negative if the 7th rounders went undrafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 My Packers results, in order of where they were taken in the real draft: 20(27) Darron Lee, LB 25(56) Artie Burns, CB 81(88) Austin Hooper, TE 91(163) Jacoby Brissett, QB 200(137) Kyle Murphy, OT (picked by the real Packers) 227(248) Stephen Weatherly, EDGE Undrafted(130) Josh Ferguson, RB Undrafted(200) Nile Lawrence-Stample, NT Based on the draft, I got fantastic value out of Artie Burns and Jacoby Brissett. I selected Burns with a late second rounder, and it turns out he wasn't even available for the real Packers' first round pick. Jacoby Brissett was a guy I thought had good tools to be a QB in the NFL. With the run of QBs that occurred just after I took him, seems like I choose a QB in the perfect spot to get my pick of the litter who wound up being taken on day two. Really happy with the Darron Lee pick. I had hoped he'd drop to the real Packers, but I wasn't surprised he didn't make it; too much talent. Only a difference of 7 spots, but in the first, that can be a big swing in talent. Got a little bit of value out of Austin Hooper, though I thought he'd go a bit earlier. Then there's Kyle Murphy, the only player I drafted who was drafted later than the slot I picked him. Seems I took him two rounds early, but he did wind up going to my team. And given that TT had already traded up to get another OT, he must've really liked Murphy to take another one. I think he'll prove to be worth more than a late 6th round pick. Rounding out my players picked in the real draft is Stephen Weatherly, who went in the same round I picked him, but in the top half of the round instead of the bottom. Doesn't have much production, but has measurables. Wouldn't e surprised to see him wash out of the league, but it's a 7th round flier. Then there's the "shame" of my draft, the undrafteds. Josh Ferguson is a guy I took because "**** it, I should take an RB". Should've stuck to my board, on which I had Cole Toner. Would've resulted in me taking two tackles with Murphy being the second, just like the real Packers draft. As for Nile Lawrence-Stample, I stand by my picking of him in the 6th. I viewed him as a lesser-known sleeper talent that likely won't get drafted where his talent level would demand. Some team is gonna be very happy to sign him as a UDFA. And, of course, I traded away this year's and next year's 4ths for a second next year. Hey, the Packers traded away the same pick! edit: Josh Ferguson immediately scooped up in UDFA by the Colts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 All of my guys got drafted except Braunecker the TE out of Harvard. I am kinda surprised he is a FA. He was supposed to be climbing up draft boards. Overall I am happy with my draft though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I'll take my Raiders draft over Reggie McKenzie's anytime in all seriousness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 These have been PMed to skinfan57 2016 ES Mock Draft - Minnesota Vikings NFL Draft Position Rd 1 (#23) - Josh Doctson, WR TCU #22 Redskins Rd 2 (#54) - Germain Ifedi OT, Texas A&M #31 Seahawks Rd 3 (#86) - Carl Nassib DE, Penn State #65 Browns Rd 4 (#121) - Jonathan Williams RB, Arkansas #156 Bills Rd 5 (#160) - James Bradberry CB/S, Samford #62 Panthers Rd 6 (#180) - Thomas Duarte WR/TE, UCLA #231 Dolphins Rd 7 (#230) - Tom Hackett P, Utah Not Drafted Update - Signed by the NY Jets as UDFA Rd 7 (#240 & #244) - Traded to Chicago Pretty happy overall - The good: I had 4 picks go in the first 65. Josh Doctson was one of my favorite players in the draft and not only did he go a spot before I picked him, he is now a Washington Redskins (Shouldn't I get some kind of kudos for picking the Redskins first rd pick? Clearly Scot and I are in sync... :-) Germain Ifedi is going to be a very good lineman for the Seahawks. He is versatile and if they can quiet his upper body he can be an all-pro. His footwork is excellent. It took till his senior year for Carl Nassib to break into a starting role but all he did then was lead the NCAA in sacks with 15. He is a beast flat out. He is a bit of a project in that he needs to learn a few more pass rush moves. But he is a tireless worker and very coachable. I believe he will prove he is not a one year wonder. Pleasant Surprise: I really liked Bradberry as a Safety. He was listed most places as a CB but I believe he will move to S in the NFL. He started out at S at Arkansas State for Hugh Freeze before transferring to Samford to play CB. But when you get to the NFL you play the position that keeps you there. He has an instinct for the ball and can really cover either a slot rev or a TE but is also a sure tackler. Someone in the NFL saw what I did (at least that's my story) and he went in the 2nd rd when I picked him in the 5th. The expected: I really like Jonathan Williams but am not surprised he dropped. He was injured in 2015. I am sure that scared some teams off. But had he not gotten injured he would have likely been a 2nd pick, maybe higher. Even with the NFL result I would still take him. I believe he will have a very nice NFL career if he can stay healthy. I knew when I took Tom Hackett that it was likely he would go undrafted. I am surprised however that 3 other punters were taken before him. I am certain you will hear his name on Sundays. He has too much talent and is a really tough even if his stature is not that big. He is rooted in Rugby and just has that edge of an athlete. I do not regret taking him. The ugly: Thomas Duarte. I took a flyer on him. He is a project for sure but one that may be worth it. He has a great body for TE at 6'2 231, very similar to Jordan Reed. He is not as fast (quite frankly not even close). He is a bit better blocker and can win on seam routes and crosses because of his size (something that will be a little harder in the NFL). He will need to run better routes. Duarte will never be a #1 anywhere but he could be a very good #2 TE and great in 2 TE sets across from a better pass catching TE. Having said all that, he could be an absolute dud. His lack of speed may keep him from playing on Sundays. Again, he was a clear project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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