China Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Creationist Sylvia Allen to lead Arizona Senate education panel One of the best-known lightning rods in the Arizona Legislature will now help shape the future of education. Senate President Andy Biggs named Sen. Sylvia Allen, R-Snowflake, chairwoman of the Senate Education Committee. Allen replaces Kelli Ward, who resigned the Senate earlier this month to focus on her congressional run. Allen is best known for her controversial public comments over the years. During a legislative hearing in 2009, she said the Earth is 6,000 years old, a belief held by "Young Earth" biblical creationists. In 2013, a Facebook post about chem-trailconspiracies gained widespread media attention, as did a March comment suggesting mandatory church attendance. Last year, Navajo County Sheriff K.C. Clark accused Allen of trying to interfere with a criminal investigation of her son-in-law. Allen, who graduated from Snowflake High School and did not attend college, is co-founder of George Washington Academy, an EdKey, Inc. charter school in Snowflake. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Ugh, I'd like to believe she can set aside her beliefs and focus on ensuring the best, most scientifically sound, education curriculum possible, but I'm not optimistic. I guess we'll just have to revisit this in a couple years, after things will have thankfully worked out, or it'll be too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Ugh, I'd like to believe she can set aside her beliefs and focus on ensuring the best, most scientifically sound, education curriculum possible, but I'm not optimistic. No doubt some local fisherman, out for a pleasure cruise, at night, in eel-infested waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I can see a bunch of teenagers rolling their eyes because they have internet access. It will be interesting if she can actually raise STEM scores and graduation rates in the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btfoom Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I'm sure all of the folks who were OK with the writing assignment that promoted Islam will be fine with this appointment as well. You know, because there won't be any bias when a teacher sends home a 'religious' assignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Conspiracy theories, young earth, and zero college. Sounds like a perfect fit for ejucation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Y'all are trying to suppress her freedom of religion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I'm sure all of the folks who were OK with the writing assignment that promoted Islam will be fine with this appointment as well. You know, because there won't be any bias when a teacher sends home a 'religious' assignment. Talking points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 religious influence via school boards is frightening to me. especially when you start to read about how textbooks are picked by other states... (unless that model is now outdated?) then you start to realize your kid might wind up reading some bull**** book someone in some other district picked for religious reasons. i'm conflicted on god, but i'm pretty sure in my disdain for organized religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I'm sure all of the folks who were OK with the writing assignment that promoted Islam will be fine with this appointment as well. You know, because there won't be any bias when a teacher sends home a 'religious' assignment. Yes because one teacher who assigned one assignment to write a phrase in arabic is exactly the same as an avowed young earth creationist and conspiracy theorist being in charge of an entire state's education decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Yes because one teacher who assigned one assignment to write a phrase in arabic is exactly the same as an avowed young earth creationist and conspiracy theorist being in charge of an entire state's education decisions. That assignment, as it was often pointed out in the other thread, came out of a work book. So unless she's the only teacher to have that workbook or all the others showed better judgement the one time thing seems unlikely. Even so I'll grant you that assignment was a small thing and this is bigger. A person with no educational background, a belief in conspiracy theories, and a young earth would certainly appears entirely unqualified to head an education committee That fact that she is heading that committee however isn't much of a surprise. We can't pretend our schools aren't a political battleground or that they haven't been for some time. This isn't anything new, we've never placed being impartial above all else when it comes to kids. Not in any time I can remember. We want them to be educated the right way or, in other words, raised to see things our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Yes because one teacher who assigned one assignment to write a phrase in arabic is exactly the same as an avowed young earth creationist and conspiracy theorist being in charge of an entire state's education decisions. Think you are giving the position more authority than it has while relegating a key tenet to just a phrase Freedom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btfoom Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Talking points! Yelling Loudly!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Putting aside the probability of her leveraging the position to push her religion... she did not graduate college and is going to lead the education panel. Good job, Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Yelling Loudly!!!!! So, your point is that they're actually yelling points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Putting aside the probability of her leveraging the position to push her religion... she did not graduate college and is going to lead the education panel. Good job, Arizona. Should that be a prerequisite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Yelling Loudly!!!!! What if you didn't really care about the calligraphy assignment? What then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 This is not as bad as having a creationist in charge of the House Science Committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 This is not as bad as having a creationist in charge of the House Science Committee. But he has several degrees and is a Yale man......you folk are hard to please if you were better educated ya would know there is no conflict between science and creationism .....I'll send ya a pamphlet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 It's a fairly common problem in general. Morons who think they know it all when really their scope of knowledge is minimal at best or completely absent in general. It's often on full display in lots of threads here. Sometimes these people get elected to public office. Sucks but you get what you vote for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjah Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 if you were better educated ya would know there is no conflict between science and creationism .....I'll send ya a pamphlet Please do PM me a pamphlet about how there is no conflict between science and this lady's young-earth creationism. (Preview: Rhetorical distraction proffered in said pamphlet's absence.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Similar to the episode of The Simpsons where Bart was shown to have average intelligence when he was younger, we as a country are undergoing the Umuricun dumbening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Please do PM me a pamphlet about how there is no conflict between science and this lady's young-earth creationism. (Preview: Rhetorical distraction proffered in said pamphlet's absence.) Who needs pamphlets? All the answers you need are here. http://creationmuseum.org/ Similar to the episode of The Simpsons where Bart was shown to have average intelligence when he was younger, we as a country are undergoing the Umuricun dumbening. It reminds me of the movie Idiocracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I had to stop because I was liking every post in the thread (not the first time) even from very disparate viewpoints. But there have been ongoing and serious restrictions to the blood flow to my brain recently. Name's Rita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btfoom Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 What if you didn't really care about the calligraphy assignment? What then? That made me laugh, quite a bit. Nice!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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