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They also hate socialism and see some/many democrat platform bullet points as a road to the socialism they (or their parents or grandparents) fled. 
 

they also tend to be catholic so there’s a few other things going on there. 
 

 

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On 4/11/2023 at 7:21 AM, Larry said:

I dunno. If he's actually going to prosecute people for hiring illegals?  The impression I get is that that would be a change, for Republicans. 

If we actually wanted to crack down on illegal immigration, this is the solution. You don’t have to put kids in cages or separate families or whatever other evil **** you can think up to torture these people. Punish people who hire them. Pretty soon, no more work. No more work… no more illegal immigration.

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Ron DeSantis is sending Florida law enforcement and National Guard members to the Texas border

 

Gov. Ron DeSantis announced Tuesday that he is sending more than 1,100 state law enforcement agents and National Guard members to Texas’ border with Mexico. The number is a tenfold increase compared to a similar move in 2021, and comes just weeks ahead of his expected presidential launch.

 

DeSantis had signaled for weeks that he was preparing an immigration-focused announcement as he re-energized his war of words over the issue with President Joe Biden, whose administration recently allowed for the lapse of Title 42, a pandemic-era policy that made it easier to expel migrants. 

 

“The impacts of Biden’s Border Crisis are felt by communities across the nation, and the federal government’s abdication of duty undermines the sovereignty of our country and the rule of law,” DeSantis said in a statement.

 

What DeSantis will be sending:

  • 800 members of the Florida National Guard;
  • 200 agents (in teams of 40) from the state Department of Law Enforcement;
  • 101 state highway patrol troopers;
  • 20 agents from the state Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission and the Department of Emergency Management;
  • 5 fixed-wing aircrafts;
  • 17 unmanned drones;
  • 10 waterborne vessels.

 

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Texas, Florida laws have Latinos rethinking where they live

 

Legislation in Florida and Texas to crack down on undocumented immigrants is prompting some Hispanics to reconsider where they live and work.

 

In Florida, videos of empty workplaces began to go viral after Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) signed a bill that ratchets up sanctions for employing undocumented workers.

 

Those videos have caused a stir and energized some Hispanic communities, but they also reflect real fears, say advocates.

 

“I think there is a form of protest to it. I’m sure there is, ‘Well you’re gonna regret it because you need us,’ which is absolutely true. But also, I’m sure there’s a palpable sense of fear among the immigrant community,” said Mario Carrillo, campaigns manager for America’s Voice, a progressive immigration advocacy group.

 

The Florida law goes into effect July 1, stacked with provisions that will make daily life harder for undocumented immigrants and their communities.

 

“Florida is a dangerous, hostile environment for law-abiding Americans and immigrants. It’s not always been that way,” said Domingo García, national president of the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC).

 

“And we need to make sure that everybody understands that you can be arrested for literally taking somebody to the hospital, for literally taking somebody to Disney World.” 

 

Among other provisions, the state will no longer recognize driver’s licenses issued out of state to undocumented immigrants, and it will prohibit Florida counties from issuing ID cards to them, as well.

 

The law also mandates the use of E-Verify for hirings, a controversial registry program that opponents say too often returns false positives, preventing documented immigrants or U.S. citizens from working legally.

 

According to United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, which runs E-Verify, nearly 60,000 job applicants who were marked as undocumented have been able to prove their legal right to work in the country. 

 

Out of more than 48 million job applicants, the system only found about 525,000 unauthorized applicants.

 

The law also penalizes transportation of undocumented immigrants in a way that advocates say far exceeds any human trafficking prevention statute.

 

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Why Florida's new immigration law is troubling businesses and workers alike

 

Pressure is growing for a boycott of Florida, including Latino truck drivers who vow to stop deliveries across the state and calls for an immigrant labor strike on June 1. Businesses are pledging to shutter their doors for the day to protest Gov. Ron DeSantis' sweeping new immigration law.

 

For years, the Republican presidential hopeful has railed relentlessly against U.S. immigration policies and newly arrived asylum-seekers. Senate Bill 1718, which takes effect on July 1, will offer a preview of the controversial changes DeSantis has said he'd like to see Congress implement.

 

Among its provisions, the strict new state legislation limits social services for undocumented immigrants, allocates millions more tax dollars to expand DeSantis' migrant relocation program, invalidates driver's licenses issued to undocumented people by other states, and requires hospitals that get Medicaid dollars to ask for a patient's immigration status.

 

But the most worrisome measures — for businesses and undocumented immigrants alike — are the host of penalties for those who violate new employment mandates.

 

Supporters say it will help expel the recent influx of immigrants, stave off future arrivals, and provide more job opportunities to citizens and others in the country lawfully. Critics say it will cost the state billions in lost revenue, while many of the harshest penalties are unlikely to be enforced.

 

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Right-wing militia members plotted on TikTok to go to ‘war with Border Patrol,’ planned to kill immigrants and FBI: Feds

 

Two right-wing militia members conspired to go “to war with border patrol,” plotting to murder immigrants and federal authorities, a grand jury alleged in an indictment.

 

The duo — Bryan C. Perry, 37, of Clarksville, Tennessee, and Jonathan S. O’Dell, 33, of Warsaw, Missouri — styled themselves as members of the 2nd American Militia, and their alleged scheme collapsed after they got into a shootout with FBI agents who arrested them on the eve of their planned trip to the U.S.-Mexico border, prosecutors said.

 

Their most recent indictment alleges a combined total of 44 charges, and a conviction on the top count alone can lead to a sentence of life imprisonment.

 

Prosecutors say that the men promoted their scheme on TikTok.

 

In one of those videos, posted on Sept. 12, 2022, Perry claimed that the U.S. Border Patrol had been committing treason by allowing undocumented immigrants to enter into the United States — and said that the penalty for treason was death.

 

The next day, Perry took to TikTok again to say he was “ready to go to war against this government.”

 

Later that month, Perry recruited O’Dell, prosecutors say.

 

The indictment states that their plans heated up that October.

 

On Oct. 3, 2022, Perry had a phone conversation with an unidentified individual and described a plan to shoot immigrants and “federal agents” who would oppose them, according to the indictment. After he would “take a couple of ’em out,” Perry added that they swipe their gear and supplies, prosecutors said.

 

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16 migrants who entered US through Texas 'deceived' by private contractor, flown to Sacramento

 

Sixteen Venezuelan and Colombian migrants who entered the country through Texas were flown to California by chartered plane and dropped off outside a church in Sacramento, Gov. Gavin Newsom and migrant rights advocates said Saturday.

 

The young men and women were dropped off Friday outside the Roman Catholic Diocese of Sacramento with only a backpack's worth of belongings each, said Eddie Carmona, campaign director at PICO California, a faith-based community organizing group that has been assisting the migrants.

 

The migrants had already been processed by U.S. immigration officials and given court dates for their asylum cases when "individuals representing a private contractor" approached them outside a migrant center in El Paso, Texas, Carmona said. They offered to help the migrants get jobs and get them to their final destination, he said.

 

"They were lied to and intentionally deceived," Carmona said, adding that the migrants had no idea where they were after being dropped off in Sacramento.

 

Newsom said he and Attorney General Rob Bonta met with the group of migrants on Saturday and learned they were transported from Texas to New Mexico and then flown by private chartered jet to Sacramento.

 

"We are working closely with the Mayor's office, along with local and nonprofit partners to ensure the people who have arrived are treated with respect and dignity, and get to their intended destination as they pursue their immigration cases," Newsom said in a statement.

 

Newsom said he is also working with the California Department of Justice to find out who paid for the group's travel and "whether the individuals orchestrating this trip misled anyone with false promises or have violated any criminal laws, including kidnapping."

 

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Mexican government issues strong rebuke of DeSantis’s new immigration law

 

The Mexican Foreign Ministry harshly criticized a new Florida immigration law that will require more frequent mandatory ID checks at places like hospitals and by employers, as well as increase criminal penalties to being undocumented.

 

“SB1718 will affect the human rights of thousands of Mexicans, including children, and will exacerbate hostile environments, which may lead to hate crimes and acts against the migrant community,” the ministry said in a statement Saturday.

 

“Criminalization is not the way to solve the issue of undocumented immigration.”

 

The sweeping law went into effect on Saturday.

 

Other sections of the legislation make it more difficult for undocumented immigrants to receive a driver’s license — and will invalidate licenses from other states legally given to undocumented immigrants.

 

Mexico’s rebuke is a continuation of the nation’s ongoing feud with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R). In June, the government said it was looking into legal recourse against Florida for its migrant relocation policy which saw migrants, including Mexican nationals, sent on buses and planes around the U.S.

 

The Florida immigration law solidifies that migrant relocation program officially in state law, and provides $12 million in state funding for it.

 

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