PeterMP Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 13 hours ago, Larry said: Yeah, I think it's pretty well established that people crossing international borders have always had reduced privacy rights. Same reason they're allowed to search your luggage. (Or to inquire about the reason for your travel, for that matter.) I think it's an offensive government overreach. A dictatorial abuse of power. (And a stupid one. Seriously? You think terrorists are going to leave incriminating information in their cell phones, and that Joe Border Patrol is going to find it, in a few minutes search? It's not about fighting terrorism. It's about establishing dominance.) But I don't think it's unconstitutional. Like all of us, terrorists do stupid things some times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Why am I Mr. Pink? Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/02/21/bodies-74-migrants-heading-to-europe-wash-up-in-libya.html 74+ dead bodies of African migrants are currently washing up on the shores of Libya after trying to cross the Mediterranian. Below are the first 5 comments on Fox news. During Obama's presidency they had to disable all comments to any article bc it was just a racist comment after racist comment, no matter what the article talked about. Now Fox news selects what articles they will allow comments on. Im guessing these comments will be deleted and comments disabled for this article very soon. Cant have clear proof that internet conservative types are racist, hate filled people can we? -------------------------------------------------------------- hillbilly442615 minutes ago Sad....I was really looking forward to having to pay for them as well! sashalepup17 minutes ago Sorry Hillary, There are 74 less democrat voters. Better luck next time..................................But, it is a good start. steven052325 minutes ago When the MSM calms these people are "migrants" do they refer to migrant labor that came from Mexico to pick cherries or beans at harvest time? I have the impression that a millennium of corrupt, socialist Islamic tyrannical leaders have made their continent inhabitable so the only course of action is to enter a civilized country to steal. Problem for them is that much of Europe has had to deal with gypsies so they are getting better at turning these "migrants" away. dusty91128 minutes ago Welcome home! Eetmee33 minutes ago Floating African turds. What wonderful news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) here is the un-edited COMPLETE first page of comments. whatever your thoughts on the underlying issue..... less than 10% could be viewed as possibly viewed as ANYTHING other than atrocious Quote ChrisSchultz ChrisSchultz 18 minutes ago Democrat operatives rushed there to register them to vote in the U.S. mikus mikus 22 minutes ago What people won't attempt for freebies. MadddDoggg MadddDoggg 23 minutes agoIf European countries would stop taking in these "migrants," they would stop trying to "migrate." As long as countries keep taking these people in, those countries must also realize they are complicit in these deaths. Andrewmag16 Andrewmag16 23 minutes ago Finally a bit of good news hillbilly4426 hillbilly4426 25 minutes ago Sad....I was really looking forward to having to pay for them as well! sashalepup sashalepup 27 minutes ago Sorry Hillary, There are 74 less democrat voters. Better luck next time..................................But, it is a good start. steven0523 steven0523 35 minutes ago When the MSM calms these people are "migrants" do they refer to migrant labor that came from Mexico to pick cherries or beans at harvest time? I have the impression that a millennium of corrupt, socialist Islamic tyrannical leaders have made their continent inhabitable so the only course of action is to enter a civilized country to steal. Problem for them is that much of Europe has had to deal with gypsies so they are getting better at turning these "migrants" away. dusty911 dusty911 38 minutes ago Welcome home! Eetmee Eetmee 42 minutes ago Floating African turds. What wonderful news! mikus mikus 42 minutes ago Just think liberals ! These same people surely chanted Death to america. And celebrated 9/11. mikus mikus 46 minutes ago Were do you bury them, what's there names, un'vetted refugees dead or alive. Eetmee Eetmee 46 minutes ago This is excellent news. Were they all named "Bob"? SarcastoJones SarcastoJones 49 minutes ago Phew! That was a close call... Siwyg Siwyg 49 minutes ago Takes me back about twenty some years ago, to an equally delightful sight, when dozens of dead Haitian illegals washed up on the beach in Fort Lauderdale, FL, and the approving and cheering crowds of Americans looking on! A good memory! mikus mikus 54 minutes ago Well that;s 74 less we have to care for. BillBobb BillBobb 1 hour ago a good start just only 45 million to go !!!! TampaPIA TampaPIA 1 hour ago 74 reasons to celebrate JonkinsDave JonkinsDave 1 hour agoWell, when you pack 120 people in a rubber dinghy rated for 10 people...... loveitorleave1776 loveitorleave1776 1 hour agoFollow the money. It leads right to the Clinton Foundation. Toppling governments for donations. Eetmee Eetmee 37 minutes ago @loveitorleave1776 and the jew George Soros. miguel11 miguel11 1 hour ago europe really needs them! need to get a two way ticket from now on! loveitorleave1776 loveitorleave1776 1 hour agoSo what was Obama and Hillary's plan for Libya after they killed Khadafy? Because this is not working out. loveitorleave1776 loveitorleave1776 1 hour agoHillary and Obama own the refugee crisis. Toppling governments for profit has set the Middle East and Europe ablaze. Lizzie2015 Lizzie2015 1 hour ago So much agree!! vuxof vuxof 1 hour ago ═❥❥★★★ www.cash-review.comᴵᴵᴵᴵᴵᴵᴵᴵᴵ open site I didn't know that anybody can earn $8805 in a few weeks on the CNNLibBlaaa CNNLibBlaaa 45 minutes ago @vuxof You earned $8805 in a few weeks by turning tricks. RMer RMer 1 hour ago I feel like a sandwich. Anybody want a sandwich? Siwyg Siwyg 1 hour ago @RMer Yeah! Ham and cheese, in honor of muslimes! carolie carolie 1 hour ago You people are flotsam. You are not helping to solve anything in the world -- just a bunch of bile. Siwyg Siwyg 1 hour ago @carolie The flotsam washed up on the beach dead! Good Riddance! lightbob lightbob 45 minutes ago @Siwyg @carolie Reminds me of the Travis song driftwood. Eetmee Eetmee 36 minutes ago @lightbob @Siwyg @carolie or the Dylan song, Drifting too far from Shore. Usmellbad Usmellbad 1 hour ago At least they got a bath before they died. Eetmee Eetmee 46 minutes ago @Usmellbad and a new name; bob Siwyg Siwyg 44 minutes ago @Usmellbad First, and Last! MerrellReagan MerrellReagan 1 hour ago Sharks won't eat them because they resemble Whale Turds. Tyrion33 Tyrion33 1 hour ago Lets not forget most of these were fighting age men. The wemen and children get thrown off first by the fighting age men. They knew the danger yet made the choice to cross the ocean to attack a european nation. I will not feel sorry for evil people who want to hurt Europeans and Americans. Katkringle Katkringle 1 hour ago Cry me a river. Marines511 Marines511 1 hour ago we need to place all our inner city DRUG ADDICTS and LIBTARDS on these boats.. ans set them out to SEA Scottrad51 Scottrad51 1 hour ago I hope that 120 man rubber boat was full to capacity! Marines511 Marines511 1 hour ago Fish food RobertDeCraon RobertDeCraon 1 hour ago 74 less welfare applications. Siwyg Siwyg 1 hour ago Fortunately, no one of any value to humanity died. Usmellbad Usmellbad 1 hour ago More dead muslims always makes for a little sunshine on a dreary day. loveourflag loveourflag 1 hour agoAll lives are precious to God and these people will be missed by someone. We never know for certain what any day may bring. That's why it's imperative to trust in Jesus Christ. For if we lose our lives, we gain our eternity with Him. For God so loved the World that He gave His only begotten Son. That whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16 Siwyg Siwyg 1 hour ago @loveourflag Actually, their deaths were a blessing in disguise. loveourflag loveourflag 1 hour ago @Siwyg @loveourflag Why do you think so? RobertDeCraon RobertDeCraon 1 hour ago @loveourflag @Siwyg Because they where muslims. Not Christians. Christians stay and fight for their country. They fled. Better do some research on the Crusades. loveourflag loveourflag 1 hour ago @RobertDeCraon @loveourflag @Siwyg We don't know who they were. Only God knows. There are Muslims who have converted from Islam to Christianity. Your viewpoint could be slanted. RobertDeCraon RobertDeCraon 1 hour ago @loveourflag @RobertDeCraon @Siwyg Not really. I know, I served over seas for 10 years. I know. Siwyg Siwyg 1 hour ago @loveourflag @Siwyg Because they were subhuman garbage, who at best intended to be parasites on White Europeans, and at worst rapists and terrorists. Hopefully, many more of these filthy animals will drown, before they can pollute Europe, with their slimy presence. Edited February 21, 2017 by mcsluggo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 out of the whole page i count posts by THREE people as being less than evil (in red font) (2 people are anti-immigration, but attempt to make an actual comment on what causes the tragedy, and one person arguing that human life is precious.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I dont know why yall would be surprised. At this point I cant even be alarmed. I expect this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 but you can still be appalled 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why am I Mr. Pink? Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/21/europe/sweden-stockholm-riots/index.html On the flip side, I do think parts of Sweden have become ... uninviting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 12 hours ago, mcsluggo said: but you can still be appalled Welcome to the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, tshile said: Welcome to the internet. Screw that, you guys on the Right wanted an end to PC, call them out on their BS don't do the "meh it's the internet whatcha gonna do?" line. These are people who more often than not tend to agree politically with you these are your brother and sister Republicans, you tell us that we need to hold our own accountable, but then you guys fall silent. And you wonder why your party has been taken over by racists. You want PC gone so you can yell and insult everyone else but your own. Edited February 22, 2017 by AsburySkinsFan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 @twaCurious what you think about the idea that cracking down on immigration will lead to (illegal) immigrant's unwillingness to aid law enforcement - reporting crimes, bearing witness, testifying, or giving themselves up if they commit crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, skinny21 said: @twaCurious what you think about the idea that cracking down on immigration will lead to (illegal) immigrant's unwillingness to aid law enforcement - reporting crimes, bearing witness, testifying, or giving themselves up if they commit crimes. I think it a distraction and a excuse to avoid enforcement. . From the officers I've spoken with the problems exist w/o the crackdown. Removing criminals reduces crimes against illegals and citizens.....IF you actually remove them. That we have allowed things to get to this point is a disgrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, twa said: Removing criminals reduces crimes against illegals and citizens.....IF you actually remove them. What does removing the law abiding illegals* accomplish? * Yes, I'm well aware that that's a contradiction in terms. I've pointed out this fact on multiple occasions. But you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, twa said: I think it a distraction and a excuse to avoid enforcement. . From the officers I've spoken with the problems exist w/o the crackdown. Removing criminals reduces crimes against illegals and citizens.....IF you actually remove them. That we have allowed things to get to this point is a disgrace Removing citizens reduces crimes against citizens too. Is this REALLY what passes for logic on the Right? A woman was in court getting a restraining order against her abusive husband, she was arrested because of her immigration status. You guys on the Right talk about laws, but you have a demented view of justice. So much so that I wonder if you even u derstand what the latter is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 32 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said: Removing citizens reduces crimes against citizens too. Is this REALLY what passes for logic on the Right? A woman was in court getting a restraining order against her abusive husband, she was arrested because of her immigration status. You guys on the Right talk about laws, but you have a demented view of justice. So much so that I wonder if you even u derstand what the latter is. We typically remove citizens and jail them, there is a cheaper option for illegals. I don't consider trans women, but whatever your angel Quote The ICE spokeswoman said the woman had a “lengthy criminal history with at least eight convictions on charges including false imprisonment, assault, domestic violence and illegal re-entry,” and had been deported six times. http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/21709-transgender-woman-arrested-by-ice-agents-while-seeking-protective-order-against-alleged-abuser I don't think you know what Justice is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Larry said: What does removing the law abiding illegals* accomplish? * Yes, I'm well aware that that's a contradiction in terms. I've pointed out this fact on multiple occasions. But you know what I mean. It removes a sub culture that enables crime and abuse of said illegals, it also forces real immigration reform. Obviously not a high priority for either party.....and useless w/o enforcement. Edited February 22, 2017 by twa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Worth reading the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PleaseBlitz Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 As Fanboy notes, besides the human costs, mass deportation is horribly bad for the economy. But in addition to the incredible human costs and practical and legal issues surrounding the deportation plan, forcibly removing millions of workers would also be economically devastating, potentially leading private-sector output to decline by hundreds of billions of dollars. The American Action Forum, a nonpartisan, center-right-leaning think tank, released a study this week breaking down the economic consequences of deporting every unauthorized worker in the US. The authors of the paper, Ben Gitis and Jacqueline Varas, said that based on an earlier American Action Forum study, the direct costs of dramatically expanding immigration-enforcement agencies and courts to deport roughly 11 million people would already cost the US government an estimated $400 billion to $600 billion. ... They found, using estimates of output per worker in each of those industries, that the cost in lost output would be in the hundreds of billions of dollars (emphasis ours): "Overall, removing all undocumented immigrants would cause private sector output to decline by between $381.5 billion and $623.2 billion. This translates to a 2.9 percent to 4.7 percent reduction in total annual output from the private sector." Gitis and Varas went on to say that this estimate is based solely on what would be lost from removing unauthorized workers from these industries, and it doesn't include other economic effects like investment and consumption by the group. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 I'll add that the last sentence in the above is also critical. The posted study DOES NOT include the impact of removing the consumption of 11 million people. That's 11 million less people buying food and clothes, paying rent and taxes, and consuming the other kajillion things that other people need to sell to earn a living. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 I wonder how much of that is offset by the gov't aid the group receives. I'd assume it's still a big kick in the nuts for both the business community and country. I also wonder what this will mean in terms of schools - population/funding/etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 minute ago, skinny21 said: I wonder how much of that is offset by the gov't aid the group receives. I'd assume it's still a big kick in the nuts for both the business community and country. I also wonder what this will mean in terms of schools - population/funding/etc. Illegal immigrants pay A LOT more in taxes than they receive in benefits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: Illegal immigrants pay A LOT more in taxes than they receive in benefits. I don't think that is true as to associated costs Might be true for the Feds Quote In 2010, the average unlawful immigrant household received around $24,721 in government benefits and services while paying some $10,334 in taxes. This generated an average annual fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of around $14,387 per household. This cost had to be borne by U.S. taxpayers. Amnesty would provide unlawful households with access to over 80 means-tested welfare programs, Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare. The fiscal deficit for each household would soar. https://amac.us/illegal-immigration-cost-1/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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