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PornHub greets bloggers after YouTube gun ban introduced

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YouTube has banned videos that show people how to manufacture or modify guns and their accessories.

 

It had already banned videos linked to the sale of guns and accessories.

 

Many firearms enthusiasts noticed that some of their videos had been removed from the video-sharing website and some had their channels suspended.

Prominent gun video-bloggers said the move was an erosion of US citizens' rights, and some said they would move their content to PornHub instead.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43500714

 

Is that a gun in your pocket or are.... Oh it is a gun... Going to back out slowly.

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So wait.... if you just break the gun down or lock it in a case you’re allowed to keep it?

 

lol is this ordience supposed to help somehow?

 

it sounds like a really dumb idea that’s more likely to get a scotus ruling against what they’re trying to do than ever be of any benefit to anyone

 

You just break down your gun, now you’re in compliance. So no one has to give yo their guns and this will wind up in front of scotus and give the nra a chance to get such an idea ruled unconstitutional. 

 

Bravo. 

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36 minutes ago, tshile said:

So wait.... if you just break the gun down or lock it in a case you’re allowed to keep it?

 

lol is this ordience supposed to help somehow?

 

it sounds like a really dumb idea that’s more likely to get a scotus ruling against what they’re trying to do than ever be of any benefit to anyone

 

You just break down your gun, now you’re in compliance. So no one has to give yo their guns and this will wind up in front of scotus and give the nra a chance to get such an idea ruled unconstitutional. 

 

Bravo. 

 

Reading the first part of the article, I see a huge disconnect.  I see claims that it doesn't apply to weapons that are broken down, or are carried by a person with a permit.  And I see claims by the NRA that it criminalizes people who are carrying a high capacity magazine.  

 

OK, here's the actual law.  (Actually, it's the a PDF of the minutes of the meeting.  But the text of the law begins on page 79 of the PDF.)  

 

I've only read part of it, but it looks like the appropriate part is on page 86 of the PDF.  

 

Looks to me like what it says is that:  

 

1)  Use, sale, possession, or storage of an assault weapon is prohibited.  

2)  Unless it's in the possession of law enforcement or military (with some additional conditions.)  (No, persons with a permit are not exempt.)  

3)  And, in order to be covered by the exceptions, the weapon must be broken down, etc.  (That's where the "person with a permit" is mentioned.)

 

(I'm not sure that's really what they intended.  If it was, then I think they were really stupid.  But that's what I read.)  

 

The ordinance does not regulate possession of high capacity magazines, only weapons.  However, it does define the term "high capacity magazine".  (Because part of the definition of "assault weapon" is "ability to accept a high capacity magazine".)

 

(Note:  As I read this, that also says that your rifle, pistol, or shotgun is defined as an "assault weapon" if it is capable of accepting a "high capacity magazine", even if the owner does not possess such a magazine.)    

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Just now, tshile said:

Yeah... not to be a negative Nancy, but i think (based on what I know so far) this is not going to go as intended...

 

 

This has already been happening up there in IL for years now.  

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-supreme-court-highland-park-assault-weapons-ban-20151207-story.html

 

My main issue with the ban is penalizing those gun owners that already purchased one legally prior to the ordinance being passed.  I also disagree with ex-law enforcement being able to keep theirs, once out they should have to abide to the same laws/ordinances their fellow residents do.  

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https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/nras-dana-loesch-says-mlk-might-alive-today-carrying-concealed-weapon/

 

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NRA’s Dana Loesch says MLK might be alive today if he was carrying a concealed weapon

 

NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch invoked the assassination of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King to argue in favor of unrestricted access to firearms.

The National Rifle Association representative singled out New Yorker contributor Rich Benjamin in a four-minute video posted online by NRA TV, and she suggested that King might have survived if he’d been permitted to carry a concealed weapon.

 

“Despite his attempt to make King’s death a failure of gun control policies at the time, he finds no room to mention that King himself had sought to own a weapon, for his own self-defense, and he was denied,” Loesch said.

King owned what one civil rights activist described as “an arsenal” after his Montgomery, Alabama, home was firebombed in 1955, and he sought a concealed carry permit — but was denied.

“While Dr. King later on had a, yeah, because he embraced nonviolence, had a different view of firearm ownership, but he was very consistent with that, but he also recognized how important it was for everyone to be able to defend themselves,” Loesch said.

Loesch said the lesson she learned from King’s life was to respect other viewpoints, and she positioned herself as a victim of prejudice and discrimination.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said:

Idiot! James Earl Ray used a rifle long distance.

 

These fools are woefully uneducated.

 

It really would have been great for the Civil Rights movement to have MLK rolling around strapped and squeezing off rounds at white Southerners.

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