TheDoyler23 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 3rd string catcher for a full-time DH that might hit 30 HRs and have an OBP at .300. It's good power and DH was a black hole last year so it's an upgrade. Yep. A 7ish hole guy with power and limited everything else. Jonny Gomes type. I'll take him. Camden Yards is a lot better park for a guy like him than Safeco as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I like the Trumbo acquisition! He's gonna love that short porch in left. Potential 35+ HRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Yep. A 7ish hole guy with power and limited everything else. Jonny Gomes type. I'll take him. Camden Yards is a lot better park for a guy like him than Safeco as well. If they could ever get a lead off type hitter plus bring back Davis, the lineup would be scary good. Span (hypothetically) Schoop Machado Davis Jones Wieters Trumbo Hardy Alvarez/Urrita combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 ^ I would love that lineup. If Wieters and Hardy can contribute... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 Like adding Trumbo, especially for what we gave up to get him. Hope this doesn't mean we're out on Davis though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rictus58 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Like adding Trumbo, especially for what we gave up to get him. Hope this doesn't mean we're out on Davis though. I'm guessing it's mostly Davis Insurance. Yeah, Trumbo is making roughly 10x what Clevenger was, but this means we 100% will not see him in the DH role, plus he was out of options anyway. He would have seen zero playing time. This is far far better than just dumping him or letting him sit on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Is there any way we can afford Jason Heyward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 Is there any way we can afford Jason Heyward? Sure. Doesn't mean we'll do it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Is there any way we can afford Jason Heyward? Why would we want to? His asking price is a good $10 mil a year over what he's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I would really like to not see another year of high strikeout/low OBP/no speed makeup of the lineup. Trumbo doesn't help that at all. And I don't really buy him as viable Davis insurance. Cruz was that, and they're hoping they get Cruz 2.0, which is questionable. But replacing Davis will likely have to be a 2 for 1 situation. Whoever the 2 is will be interesting. I'd be shocked if Davis came back at this point. There's too much finagling to move money around to free up. And then they still need starting pitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Why would we want to? His asking price is a good $10 mil a year over what he's worth. His defense >>>>> Also, look at the contracts given out over the past few years in FA. There is no such thing as a fair deal anymore. You're going to have to overpay. I'd much rather do this, than go the dumpster diving, cheap route to fill holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Agree with Ron. We tried the dumster diving. Time to pony up for some talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGibbs Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Like the Trumbo signing as long as we ink Davis. Otherwise it's just another move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 His defense >>>>> Also, look at the contracts given out over the past few years in FA. There is no such thing as a fair deal anymore. You're going to have to overpay. I'd much rather do this, than go the dumpster diving, cheap route to fill holes. You can find defenders for a fraction of that. Good defense and middling power guys you can find. $200 mil for Heyward is a terrible investment, any way you slice it, IMO. And if they were gonna pay that, I'd rather they just use that money to keep Davis and/or get some starting pitching. He's a younger version of Carl Crawford, only not as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 You can find defenders for a fraction of that. Good defense and middling power guys you can find. $200 mil for Heyward is a terrible investment, any way you slice it, IMO. And if they were gonna pay that, I'd rather they just use that money to keep Davis and/or get some starting pitching. He's a younger version of Carl Crawford, only not as good. I'd take that gamble on someone who is top 20 in WAR and ELITE defensively. Not to mention, he's only 26. His upside is through the roof and it can be argued for as good as he is now, he's not in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Royals @royals #Royals have traded catcher Francisco Pena to Baltimore for cash considerations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I know Greinke is 32 and I wouldn't want to pay that, but can we just one time spend some money on an ace? Just one player. I mean, can't we afford one damn 200 million player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I know Greinke is 32 and I wouldn't want to pay that, but can we just one time spend some money on an ace? Just one player. I mean, can't we afford one damn 200 million player? I think it's time to face up to the fact that it's a good time to blow this all up and re-load. This team as it stands can't compete. Greinke or someone like him would make us better, but I don't think he'd propel us into the playoffs. As much as it pains me to say it, trade Jones and everyone but Schoop and Machado, try to get a haul of young talent like we got from the Bedard trade, cut payroll and try to get some cheap young controllable talent in the system. We need more Machados and less 200 million dollar players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I'm just tired of having scrubs for SP. We obviously can't develop an ace, so we'll need to buy one. I never worry about the bats as we always have them. My only thing with batting that I feel we lack is speed and small ball hitting. I'd like to see more hits and less HRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 We need a proper lead off guy. Haven't had one in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Tweets are going around that the O's are re-signing O'Day. Hopefully the word comes out today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Tweets are going around that the O's are re-signing O'Day. Hopefully the word comes out today! The word is out today. MASN reporting it as well. Great news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I think it's time to face up to the fact that it's a good time to blow this all up and re-load. This team as it stands can't compete. Greinke or someone like him would make us better, but I don't think he'd propel us into the playoffs. As much as it pains me to say it, trade Jones and everyone but Schoop and Machado, try to get a haul of young talent like we got from the Bedard trade, cut payroll and try to get some cheap young controllable talent in the system. We need more Machados and less 200 million dollar players. This is nonsensical as facts do not support your assertion that this team can't compete. We just watched a team with poor starting pitching win the World Series and the O's are two seasons removed from a 96 win division championship. The Bullpen is as good as ever. Chances are the starting pitching will bounce back this season and hopefully this team will have full seasons from Schoop, Hardy, Jones, Tillman, Gonzo and Wieters. If the O's get anything out of the DH and corner outfield positions, they are significantly better than last season and will compete for the division. Having an Ace that is paid a huge amount of money doesn't guarantee success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxito Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Tweets are going around that the O's are re-signing O'Day. Hopefully the word comes out today! RP Darren O'Day agrees to 4-year deal with Orioleshttp://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14301083/darren-oday-baltimore-orioles-agree-four-year-deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Retain Wheets. Trade for Trumbo. Re-sign O'Day. I like this offseason so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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