zoony Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 These accustations go back to the 60s. At that point, I don't even think it's his team covering up. It's the fact that society would have deemed the idea of Bill Cosby raping someone absurd. You still occasionally hear the argument of "Why would so and so have to rape someone? He can get any woman he wants." I'm just leaving it alone this time. What am I trying to prove at this point? @davidfrum: The stifling of repeated rape accusations is never the work of the alleged rapist alone. It takes a team of complicit professionals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Cosby's camp has settled at least one sexual assault lawsuit against him (back in 2006 I think)..and there is this. http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2014/11/heres_the_1969_bill_cosby_routine_about_wanting_to_drug_womens_drinks.php Life imitating art? Or art imitating his real life? Edited November 19, 2014 by The Evil Genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Yah, and willing to really put themselves out there. And overwhelmingly specific. The consistency of the stories is what makes me lean towards believing the stories. BTW, If you feel I should change the title let me know or feel free to change it. It's hard to gauge the authenticity here, this happens way too often for it to be surprising and it's often hard to judge who is lying. Rape is a horrible thing but to deny that women lie interminably to get money from male celebrities would be naive. I won't claim to know for certain who is lying here. This seems to be a lot coming out of the woodwork though. I guess Bill's "true self" spent a lot of time bullying women into sex. What a dick. It's crazy because watching Fat Albert and the Cosby Show growing up...NO WAY!!! Thinking about it...quite possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I heard on the radio this morning on my way to work, Cosby spoke in a comedy bit back in the '70's about wanting to go to Spain and get the "Spanish Fly" drink, it went on the insinuate he and his co-star in a movie he did were openly interested in a drink to greatly impair someone's judgment. I thought I was desensitized to this type of stuff, but I'm quite surprised to hear about this in regards to Cosby. Don't know why I am surprised, none of us really know these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 always good advice, but hard to prove after the fact . Everything is harder to prove after the fact. Never take it. Have them offer it. Who wants to get down with a sloppy drunk woman anyway besides my man Clueless ? No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Hannibal Burress is my man! Saw him open up years ago for Aziz Ansari. I've been trying to put him over to whoever would listen. Bill Cosby in the other hand. What a joke. Never got the whole comedian holier than thou bit. Wouldn't surprise me if he was touching some of those kids in that other TV show he was on. He always struck me as a deeply troubled man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Janice Dickinson does not help the credibility of the other accusers, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeesburgSkinFan Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I wonder if he'll have to pay for his dogs at Ben's Chili Bowl now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Janice Dickinson does not help the credibility of the other accusers, IMO. nor does associating with them after the fact http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cnn-don-lemon-crosses-line-bill-cosby-rape-accuser-article-1.2015825 Cosby allegedly lured Tarshis to his bungalow at Universal Studios in Los Angeles, drugged her and then forced her to perform oral sex on him. Tarshis said “Mr. Jello” attacked her again days later at the Sherry Netherland hotel, after she accompanied him to a performance he gave at the Westbury Music Theater on Long Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkeyBoy Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Hannibal Burress drank me under the table at a small dive where he was working out the material for his latest special last year. Probably the drunkest I've been since moving to the midwest. Great comic and a great guy. On Cosby, I'm honestly glad this has happened at a stage in his life where he's to old for his image to ever recover from it. I type this as I walk by an ad for Mike Tyson Mysteries at a bus stop. Edited November 19, 2014 by EvilMonkeyBoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 nor does associating with them after the fact http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cnn-don-lemon-crosses-line-bill-cosby-rape-accuser-article-1.2015825 Cosby allegedly lured Tarshis to his bungalow at Universal Studios in Los Angeles, drugged her and then forced her to perform oral sex on him. Tarshis said “Mr. Jello” attacked her again days later at the Sherry Netherland hotel, after she accompanied him to a performance he gave at the Westbury Music Theater on Long Island. How many times does it have to be repeated that the behavior of rape victims after their rape doesn't determine anything? Just because a person doesn't behave the way you think imaginary you would behave in the same situation doesn't mean anything. Having said that....having Janice Dickinson become the face of this is probably the best thing to happen to Cosby in weeks. Having said that....I think I believe her. Having said that.....I'm not sure what else there is to add to this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) It also speaks to how the legal system treated rape and rape accusations back then too. What was considered rape back then? I ask because I'm pretty sure they didn't make a husband raping his wife illegal until 70s, which is insane, so I'm not really sure what rape laws looked like. In the cases described here the cops would have probably assumed the women got drunk and passed out, because what guy was going to take a "hysterical woman" at her word? If she was at church it wouldn't have happened! Was sleeping with an unconscious woman even considered rape then or a valid means of getting laid to be celebrated with high fives and laughter? We've come a long way on this issue. Still have a long way to go too. Edited November 19, 2014 by Destino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 What was considered rape back then? I ask because I'm pretty sure they didn't make a husband raping his wife illegal until 70s, which is insane, so I'm not really sure what rape laws looked like. In the cases described here the cops would have probably assumed the women got drunk and passed out, because what guys was going to take a hysterical woman at her word? If she was at church it wouldn't have happened! Was sleeping with an unconscious woman even considered rape then or a valid means of getting laid to be celebrated with high fives and laughter? We've come a long way on this issue. Still have a long way to go too. I don't know exactly how law enforcement treated marital rape or date rape then. I know that rape shield laws didn't really start to take hold until the early 80s. So, prior to that, it was open season on any rape accuser in a court of law. I think that was the first big change on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 He wasn't a rapist. He did have a stand-by lady in every city from what I understand though. And he's divorced and his wife got the biggest settlement ever at the time if I'm not mistaken. Some bird coming out now saying Jordan slept with her does nothing to his pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Kiddie rape or murder is probably the only way Jordan gets taken down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Ruined reputation or a payoff ? I don't care that he was Cliff. Bill is the guy I am concerned with. BTW, Rape jokes are not funny to me. I can be crude and rude, but that type of stuff is not funny. That episode is not accurately quoted. He is asking Theo how far apart they were on their date if I recall correctly. He wasn't a rapist. He did have a stand-by lady in every city from what I understand though. I remember that episode. That was Vanessa's boyfriend. Not Theo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) How many times does it have to be repeated that the behavior of rape victims after their rape doesn't determine anything? Just because a person doesn't behave the way you think imaginary you would behave in the same situation doesn't mean anything. Having said that....having Janice Dickinson become the face of this is probably the best thing to happen to Cosby in weeks. Having said that....I think I believe her. Having said that.....I'm not sure what else there is to add to this. Alleged rape victim I think they are mostly truthful....as they see it consent and competency in sexual acts are tricky....best to avoid possible complications add as KH would say....make em beg for it Edited November 19, 2014 by twa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Damn Bill... And hasn't he been on a soapbox the last few years when making statements about what's wrong with Black America? Smh He was right though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage520 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I'll wait to pass any judgement on this until more information is brought to the table. But I will say, that if he did do it his or his camp's response initially is very alarming to me. He said that he refused to "dignify decade old, discredited claims". Maybe I'm taking him out of context here but that really sends up a red flag to me. To me that sends the message that it's apparently no longer wrong after a certain amount of time. That once it passes the 10 year old mark it's no longer serious? I'm probably reading into that the wrong way and help me out if I am. But I'm certainly alarmed at that right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Full disclosure, I'm an ES lawyer. In Pennsylvania where one of the alleged incidents happened, the statute of limitations is 12 years. "Legal proceedings against the perpetrator of this crime must commence within 12 years after commission of the offense" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage520 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Full disclosure, I'm an ES lawyer. In Pennsylvania where one of the alleged incidents happened, the statute of limitations is 12 years. "Legal proceedings against the perpetrator of this crime must commence within 12 years after commission of the offense" Given the nature of how long ago the alleged incidents took place I'm interested to know. Is that a low number compared to the rest of the country? Middle of the road? Long? Chances are given the number of alleged victims, this could stretch to multiple areas of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 It probably doesn't help Cosby that he settled out of court in the mid 2000's with one of his alleged victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 It is interesting to me what would have been revealed about past celebrities in the digital age Don't you just get the feeling that sometime in the next 5 years someone is going to "do" Michael Jordan? Isn't some of that old news? He had some relationship with some porn star. You have 15 woman and probably more to come accuse him of the same thing? There is something there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Hannibal Burress is my man! Saw him open up years ago for Aziz Ansari. I've been trying to put him over to whoever would listen.I saw his stand up a few years ago when he was considered an up-and-coming comic and I wasn't impressed (nothing against it, but it just didn't strike a chord with me). But then I saw a special of his recently and it was really good. I don't know if he improved a lot since then, if I saw a poor example of his material, or maybe I wasn't in the right mood to appreciate him back then, but I like his stuff now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chew Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) He was right though. and I agree. But damn man, he's sitting here using his celebrity platform to tell society about itself, when this dude was drugging chicks and demanding oral sex back in the day. I feel like kicking that old **** in the back of his face right now. Another black mega-star with a ruined reputation. Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Kobe, Chris Brown, Tiger Woods, Milli Vanilli. Next thing you know, we'll hear about Neil Degrasse Tyson soliciting college guys for sex in the VLT. Edited November 19, 2014 by Chew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now