Dan T. Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 MLSKINS, she wasn't 15, she was 25. She spit in the man's face and punched him in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 Accoring to this story the "little girl" is 25 and the bus driver has been suspended:http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/10/cleveland_bus_driver_punches_p.html Well, that changes things. He still didn't have to hit her with the I have even less sympathy for the victim now then what I had when it was falsely reported she was 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 :doh: I ride public transit with youth.D She is 25, not 15. And if someone SPAT in your face, what are the odds you let it go and say just get out of my house or just get off the bus. He responded in a foolish manner, 100%. But she is still a stupid hoodrat trying to act tough. Well, as DIRECTV says, when people think you're tough, people want to find out how tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 Okay, I didn't see the post. She is 25 I said it changes things. But he could have handled it better.... I will re-issue my lifetime ban on her for public transit since she is 10 years older than I thought she is. What an idiot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 He still attacked a female to that degree MLS, regardless of her age or the provocation. And it was a conscious act. Not a split second self defense response. Doesn't change a darn thing about the driver. But being as she's now apparently 25, surely they BOTH should get charged with assault at least as adults? Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 you know what...I honestly feel like people take things too seriously and too pc. To me...it just a display of stupidity and ignorance and you know what...I'm just going to laugh at it and move on with my day. There is no deep analysis for it...it was low level idiocy and I feel like it should be treated with laughter and that is it. Nothing deeper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 my opinion of ANYONE that tries to defend the actions of EITHER of the participants in that mess really drops. they both suck. you don't have to defend one to criticize the other... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Both the driver and the girl made dumb decisions in that video. First of all the girl is an idiot and needs to learn to act like a human being, and how to treat people. Secondly, the guy went overboard. He could've grabbed her and easily escorted her off the bus without throwing an uppercut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 you don't have to defend one to criticize the other... Or defend either to appreciate I'm with Brave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFromYellowstone Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 So am I still a bigot LSF? Or does your point now change to men should never hit women in any circumstances? Admit it, you get riled up by anything that involves women. You called me a bigot for saying she got what she deserved and she knew what she was doing. I'm a damn bleeding heart liberal who supports womens rights but you get all nasty and call me a bigot because I don't agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Bleed_B&G Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I think she deserved it although maybe not to the degree of a Cobra Kai kick to the face. For those saying she hit him and then backed off and the driver was not in danger anymore, how do you know that? What if he didn't get up out of his seat? She may have gone back and hit him with another blow to the face and caused him to pass out and wreck the bus hurting himself, passengers and people on the street. Did she deserve to get that vicious hit under her chin? No, but she took it like a champ and came back for more. Things could of been handled better but hindsight is 20/20. Sometimes you just snap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I think she deserved it although maybe not to the degree of a Cobra Kai kick to the face. For those saying she hit him and then backed off and the driver was not in danger anymore, how do you know that? What if he didn't get up out of his seat? She may have gone back and hit him with another blow to the face and caused him to pass out and wreck the bus hurting himself, passengers and people on the street. Did she deserve to get that vicious hit under her chin? No, but she took it like a champ and came back for more. Things could of been handled better but hindsight is 20/20. Sometimes you just snap It wasn't self defense. He definitely did it to "get her back" not out of protection. Regardless, I'm going to go along with the "I'm just going to laugh at both of these idiots and this is not ground for a serious discussion." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Bleed_B&G Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 It wasn't self defense. He definitely did it to "get her back" not out of protection. Regardless, I'm going to go along with the "I'm just going to laugh at both of these idiots and this is not ground for a serious discussion." How can you say it wasn't self defense? She punched him in the face and he has a right at the point to defend himself. If he would of continued sitting, she would of probably hit him again. I mean nothing stopped her the first time from laying her fist on his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnFoRcEr_uPu Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 This person struck the bus driver while he was sitting in his seat, trying to do his job. Once that woman's fist landed on the side of his head, all bets are off. And once she shows she's willing to commit a violent assault, her gender becomes irrelevant. MLSKINS, I would have admired the bus driver had he immediately stopped the bus and called police. That would have shown amazing self-control. But I can't fault him either for protecting himself from a person who has already assaulted him. I can't agree with this more. I'm sorry, but as some point there is a limit to how much a person can, and should, take in regards to being hit or verbally assaulted in that manner. Do I agree with him seeming to choke her? (maybe I was seeing things?) No. But do I fault him for hitting her? Honestly, no. As said in the quoted post, I would have applauded his patience for just calling the police/authorities, but cannot at all fault him for the action taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Yeah seeing that she is 25 changes somethings here. I think the bus driver was a little over the top, but she is just as much to blame here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsiaticSkinsFan Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 You know what, she deserved it. Women shouldn't be able to run around and hit men and say whatever they want and not expect to get hit back. she didnt deserve to get choked out, but yeah she hit him first. I would have given her an open hand slap for that. That is not a lady, and I do not understand the defense of her. Screw her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I'm in the "they are both idiots and they both suck" camp. She was verbally harassing him and then moved on to spitting and punching; I don't care what your gender is...if you physically assault someone you should expect a reaction and you lose any good graces that being female might have initially afforded you. It would be wonderful if we all lived in Happy Land where everyone is nice to each other and people always keep their cool to make sure not to perpetuate violence, but that simply isn't realistic and has little bearing on how the world really is. That said, the bus driver is also an idiot and definitely went too far. He absolutely crushed her with an over the top response punch and then choked her when she came back on the bus; definitely not OK. It would have been much more prudent to just physically remove her from the bus (though, given her temperament and behavior one can't assume that she wouldn't simply escalate her violence more once he tried that). Also figures that the other people on the bus were laughing and cheering and recording instead of stepping in and trying to help resolve things. smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Well, if she's 25, that changes everything No reason why she shouldn't have been uppercut like mad LEt the bus man do his job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 she didnt deserve to get choked out, but yeah she hit him first.I would have given her an open hand slap for that. That is not a lady, and I do not understand the defense of her. Screw her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I hate World Star Hip-Hop, it is the worst website on the internet IMO......NSFW Language in the video. Check your speaker volume Yes, the little girl(yes little girl she is not a woman no matter how much she thinks she is) was running her mouth. Talking all types of stuff to the bus driver. SHE EVEN HIT HIM FIRST!!!! However, there is no way I can justify the bus driver retaliating the way he did. The dude hit her with one of them Mortal Kombat uppercuts and then chokes her and beats here some more. As a man, I can not tolerate that. He should have pulled the bus over and refused to drive until she got off. He has the right to do that. But he took the low road, argued with her and hit her. This really hurts me man, it is two things that I don't like being combined into one nightmare. Rowdy kids on public transit and a man hitting a woman. :doh: Both individuals needs to be punished, but the man should get punished more just because he is A MAN!!! and he was the adult. Yes I understand she did deserve it, but you gotta think before you act. God please help us They both might think twice next time. Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCClybun Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Eh...she was rude, loud, disrespectful and she hit him first. I don't condone any man hitting a woman, but the second she threw the first punch, as far as defending himself, the bus driver had a right to defend himself... However, defending himself probably didn't have to involve punching the high holy **** out of her in the manner he did, and then choking her out, and then furthering the fight with her after that. He is both older and stronger than her, and he should've known better. At any rate both of them are horrible people. The girl is likely to get in more dumbass fights like this, and the guy will (and rightfully should) lose his job. I do always find it funny/scary when men automatically jump to the defense of the guilty man in these cases though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chew Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 In related news, the latest episode of WSHH ghetto fights is up. 20 minutes of club parking lot brawls and after school knockouts from the past week. A lot of comedy in there. EXTREME NSFW for language I hope they called the ambulance for that kid @ 15:00 mark, he was having a nasty seizure....that wasn't cool. http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video640.php?v=wshhBJ4P8oKBu1T6W0s1&set_size=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 They both might think twice next time. Probably not. That's asking a bit much, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCClybun Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Also figures that the other people on the bus were laughing and cheering and recording instead of stepping in and trying to help resolve things. smh You'd be surprised at how often people shout down the bus driver on the bus for one reason or another, and the response is much the same. Granted, I've never seen two people fight, but in situations like this, my personal experience is that the more people that get involved, the worse the problem comes. I've seen a bus driver and a woman get in a verbal fight, then seen a guy speak up for the bus driver, which at that point just escalated the woman's attitude, which in turn escalates the two men fighting, which just gets people more and more agitated. Not saying it was right for people to sit and watch him punch the **** out of her, but people on the bus did step in once the two people started to really scrap with one another. But most people on the bus aren't interested in becoming referees in another person's fight, and if you ride public transportation long enough you get jaded to this kind of thing as far as people shouting at each other goes. I can't speak to the physical stuff. Just reminds me I need to get my license so I don't have to deal with crazy people on the bus anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 You don't have your license at 25? Anyway I was never a fan of all these fight videos. Don't want to see devolution of society as we all watch people beat each other up. It's no better than "Honey Boo Boo". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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