brandymac27 Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I didn't know that you were capped at 3 for your RBs and WRs, which is idiotic. Having a cap at 3 discourages any depth whatsoever. Who is Brown for TE? I would check to see if Cook is available or like GF stated Moeaki, if not I would just stick with Watson, who's not a horrible option as a back up TE. Yep, we're capped at 3 max for those positions and 2 people for all other positions. Also, I meant to write Cook for TE instead of Brown (I edited the post), but Cook is gone anyway. Who is this Moeaki??? ETA: we can only flex the WR/RB positions but are capped at 3 total per position. And Moeaki and Tamme (from Indy) are both available at TE. Is it worth it to drop Benjamin Watson for either of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I plucked Danny Amendola is the deep rounds in both. His numbers last year were terrific, and as is obvious, he's largely overlooked. That could be a very smart move. I'm thinking of going with Sims-Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliz Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Yep, we're capped at 3 max for those positions and 2 people for all other positions. Also, I meant to write Cook for TE instead of Brown (I edited the post), but Cook is gone anyway. Who is this Moeaki???ETA: we can only flex the WR/RB positions but are capped at 3 total per position. And Moeaki and Tamme (from Indy) are both available at TE. Is it worth it to drop Benjamin Watson for either of them? Definitely not for Tamme. He's their 2nd TE so you're relying on Dallas Clark getting injured again or him getting looks in 2 TE sets when Clark is on the field. It's like drafting Fred Davis when Cooley is perfectly healthy. Moeaki maybe, but he still isn't recovered from knee surgery. I suggest you compare who's left to a TE ranking on ESPN or Yahoo or something, and see who their experts think the best available is, rather than have people in this thread guess at who might still be there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLredskin Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I understand your thought with waiting on RBs, but what if your pick is 1 - 5. I mean the value of a stud RB there compared to the next tier of RB is a big gap. The 2nd you can still get a high value tier 1 WR. And a Tier 2 QB in 3 or 4. The problem I have with your strategy is the gap between a tier 1 RB and a tier 3 or 4 RB is a huge swing not in your favor. At the other positions it is much smaller of a gap. Its funny you said that because some guy in the mock draft was saying the same thing...I picked 7th BTW. Unfortunately you really can't tell me anything. I am stuck on drafting a WR with my first 2 picks no matter what. Only exception is if i'm picking late (like 10th or 11th) and Manning is there in the 2nd with lets say Greg Jennings there too. If I believe I can get Jennings after the next two guys draft twice then I would make that move to draft Manning right there. Now I know my RBs are kinda weak, but they are decent and is surrounded by a all-star cast. If anyone one of my RBs can play a decent game (about 14+ points) then I should win every week. Or if one of them develop into a all-star or both of them contribute on and off then i'm winning the championship... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Yep, we're capped at 3 max for those positions and 2 people for all other positions. Also, I meant to write Cook for TE instead of Brown (I edited the post), but Cook is gone anyway. Who is this Moeaki???ETA: we can only flex the WR/RB positions but are capped at 3 total per position. And Moeaki and Tamme (from Indy) are both available at TE. Is it worth it to drop Benjamin Watson for either of them? I would just stick with Watson, but be sure to check on the status of his knee injury. The main reason I would go with Watson over Moeaki is because of the QB situation. I trust McCoy much more than I trust Cassel. It's basically a toss up, but I'd stick with Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pick6 Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Its funny you said that because some guy in the mock draft was saying the same thing...I picked 7th BTW. Unfortunately you really can't tell me anything. I am stuck on drafting a WR with my first 2 picks no matter what. Only exception is if i'm picking late (like 10th or 11th) and Manning is there in the 2nd with lets say Greg Jennings there too. If I believe I can get Jennings after the next two guys draft twice then I would make that move to draft Manning right there. Now I know my RBs are kinda weak, but they are decent and is surrounded by a all-star cast. If anyone one of my RBs can play a decent game (about 14+ points) then I should win every week. Or if one of them develop into a all-star or both of them contribute on and off then i'm winning the championship... Well at 7th it could make more sense, because Tier 1 RB will be gone in the top 6 picks most likely. I think you have a lot of "IFs" you are hoping will pay off, but I will curious to see how it pay offs for you. Personally I look at fantasy football as more of a statistic model and value the tier system more. I tend not to care about a player, but which tier they fall in and the gaps between tiers in the point system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandymac27 Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Definitely not for Tamme. He's their 2nd TE so you're relying on Dallas Clark getting injured again or him getting looks in 2 TE sets when Clark is on the field. It's like drafting Fred Davis when Cooley is perfectly healthy. Moeaki maybe, but he still isn't recovered from knee surgery. I suggest you compare who's left to a TE ranking on ESPN or Yahoo or something, and see who their experts think the best available is, rather than have people in this thread guess at who might still be there Well, our league is on CBSsports and they have Tamme listed higher than Moeaki, so I'll try ESPN and a few other places to see what I can come up with. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Its funny you said that because some guy in the mock draft was saying the same thing...I picked 7th BTW. Unfortunately you really can't tell me anything. I am stuck on drafting a WR with my first 2 picks no matter what. Only exception is if i'm picking late (like 10th or 11th) and Manning is there in the 2nd with lets say Greg Jennings there too. If I believe I can get Jennings after the next two guys draft twice then I would make that move to draft Manning right there. Now I know my RBs are kinda weak, but they are decent and is surrounded by a all-star cast. If anyone one of my RBs can play a decent game (about 14+ points) then I should win every week. Or if one of them develop into a all-star or both of them contribute on and off then i'm winning the championship... It depends on the league you play in. If you're playing in a PPR league and have a mid pick and all elite RBs are gone, then you go WR-WR in the first 2 rounds no problem; however, if you in a standard or TD league, then going WR-WR is going to hurt you big time. Now if you have a top 5 pick and don't go RB, then have fun playing catch up all season. The difference between the elite RBs and regular RBs is greater than the difference between the elite WRs and second tier WRs. ---------- Post added August-30th-2011 at 04:31 PM ---------- Well, our league is on CBSsports and they have Tamme listed higher than Moeaki, so I'll try ESPN and a few other places to see what I can come up with. Thanks. There's no need for Tamme to be higher than Moeaki, unless Clark gets injured again. Tamme is useless in fantasy as things stand today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandymac27 Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I would just stick with Watson, but be sure to check on the status of his knee injury. The main reason I would go with Watson over Moeaki is because of the QB situation. I trust McCoy much more than I trust Cassel. It's basically a toss up, but I'd stick with Watson. Yeah, I've been checking the injury updates and he's supposed to be ready to go by the 1st game. I'm actually starting to think I should just stick with him too as long as he's healthy. I really don't want to pay $4 to drop/add a guy who may or not be any better than Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Yeah, I've been checking the injury updates and he's supposed to be ready to go by the 1st game. I'm actually starting to think I should just stick with him too as long as he's healthy. I really don't want to pay $4 to drop/add a guy who may or not be any better than Watson. Yeah, if you have to pay anything to get Moeaki and drop Watson then don't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliz Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Well, our league is on CBSsports and they have Tamme listed higher than Moeaki, so I'll try ESPN and a few other places to see what I can come up with. Thanks. How unusual. Maybe it's some kind of holdover thing based on how they performed last year? http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/rankings Eisenberg: Tight Ends 1 Antonio Gates SD $10 (Bye: 6) Outlook 2 Jason Witten DAL $8 (Bye: 5) Outlook 3 Jermichael Finley GB $7 (Bye: 8) Outlook 4 Vernon Davis SF $7 (Bye: 7) Outlook 5 Dallas Clark IND $7 (Bye: 11) Outlook 6 Owen Daniels HOU $6 (Bye: 11) Outlook 7 Jimmy Graham NO $4 (Bye: 11) Outlook 8 Kellen Winslow TB $3 (Bye: 8) Outlook 9 Greg Olsen CAR $3 (Bye: 9) Outlook 10 Brandon Pettigrew DET $3 (Bye: 9) Outlook 11 Rob Gronkowski NE $2 (Bye: 7) Outlook 12 Tony Gonzalez ATL $2 (Bye: 8) Outlook 13 Dustin Keller NYJ $1 (Bye: 8) Outlook 14 Aaron Hernandez NE $1 (Bye: 7) Outlook 15 Marcedes Lewis JAC $1 (Bye: 9) Outlook 16 Zach Miller SEA $1 (Bye: 6) Outlook 17 Brent Celek PHI $1 (Bye: 7) Outlook 18 Chris Cooley WAS $1 (Bye: 5) Outlook 19 Todd Heap ARI $1 (Bye: 6) Outlook 20 Lance Kendricks STL $1 (Bye: 5) Outlook 21 Kevin Boss OAK (Bye: 8) Outlook 22 Jermaine Gresham CIN (Bye: 7) Outlook 23 Jared Cook TEN (Bye: 6) Outlook 24 Benjamin Watson CLE (Bye: 5) Outlook 25 Heath Miller PIT (Bye: 11) Outlook 26 Ed Dickson BAL (Bye: 5) Outlook 27 Visanthe Shiancoe MIN (Bye: 9) Outlook 28 Jeremy Shockey CAR (Bye: 9) Outlook 29 Tony Moeaki KC (Bye: 6) Outlook 30 Travis Beckum NYG (Bye: 7) Outlook 31 Anthony Fasano MIA (Bye: 5) Outlook 32 Fred Davis WAS (Bye: 5) Outlook Richard: Tight Ends 1 Antonio Gates SD $12 (Bye: 6) Outlook 2 Dallas Clark IND $10 (Bye: 11) Outlook 3 Jason Witten DAL $10 (Bye: 5) Outlook 4 Vernon Davis SF $9 (Bye: 7) Outlook 5 Owen Daniels HOU $7 (Bye: 11) Outlook 6 Jermichael Finley GB $7 (Bye: 8) Outlook 7 Greg Olsen CAR $5 (Bye: 9) Outlook 8 Kellen Winslow TB $3 (Bye: 8) Outlook 9 Tony Gonzalez ATL $3 (Bye: 8) Outlook 10 Marcedes Lewis JAC $2 (Bye: 9) Outlook 11 Brandon Pettigrew DET $2 (Bye: 9) Outlook 12 Jimmy Graham NO $2 (Bye: 11) Outlook 13 Rob Gronkowski NE $2 (Bye: 7) Outlook 14 Chris Cooley WAS $1 (Bye: 5) Outlook 15 Zach Miller SEA $1 (Bye: 6) Outlook 16 Jared Cook TEN $1 (Bye: 6) Outlook 17 Brent Celek PHI $1 (Bye: 7) Outlook 18 Kevin Boss OAK $1 (Bye: 8) Outlook 19 Aaron Hernandez NE $1 (Bye: 7) Outlook 20 Dustin Keller NYJ (Bye: 8) Outlook 21 Todd Heap ARI (Bye: 6) Outlook 22 Jermaine Gresham CIN (Bye: 7) Outlook 23 Tony Moeaki KC (Bye: 6) Outlook 24 Heath Miller PIT (Bye: 11) Outlook 25 Lance Kendricks STL (Bye: 5) Outlook 26 Visanthe Shiancoe MIN (Bye: 9) Outlook 27 Evan Moore CLE (Bye: 5) Outlook 28 Anthony Fasano MIA (Bye: 5) Outlook 29 Benjamin Watson CLE (Bye: 5) Outlook 30 Ed Dickson BAL (Bye: 5) Outlook 31 Jeremy Shockey CAR (Bye: 9) Outlook 32 Fred Davis WAS (Bye: 5) Outlook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandymac27 Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I don't know, but I just checked the TE FA list and they have Tamme listed first and Moeaki 3 spots under him. But, I've decided just to stick w/ Watson so I don't have to pay the $4 and see how things play out. Hopefully Hernandez will be a beast and I'll only need Watson during his bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Just use fantasypros.com They rank by accuracy of the fantasy gurus. ---------- Post added August-30th-2011 at 05:11 PM ---------- I don't know, but I just checked the TE FA list and they have Tamme listed first and Moeaki 3 spots under him. But, I've decided just to stick w/ Watson so I don't have to pay the $4 and see how things play out. Hopefully Hernandez will be a beast and I'll only need Watson during his bye. Tamme is high because Dallas Clark was injured last year. His numbers were pretty good last year. Fantasy projections take last years stats to come up with projections. Tamme might not have a single point this year. If Moeki is there, I'd grab him. The chiefs are designing plays specifically to get him more involved this year. ---------- Post added August-30th-2011 at 05:14 PM ---------- Yeah, if you have to pay anything to get Moeaki and drop Watson then don't do it. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royallypwned Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 And then David Buehler and the Redskins D. Get another kicker immediately. I don't even think Buehler will be the opening week kicker for the Cowboys, much less a viable option as a kicker in a fantasy league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouBrave86 Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Cooley is on waivers in my league because it is mostly Skins fans, but he is still available so I'm taking a flyer on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLredskin Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 my plan for this year...-draft top WRs with first 3 picks -if Manning slip to round 3 then get him --draft elite TE with pick #4 -in round 5 or 6 draft either Big Ben or Matt Schaub -stock up on RBs like Ingram, Hightower, Addai, Ryan Grant, Daniel Thomas, and random sleeper (would like to have at least 3 of these guys) -don't really have a plan for defense yet, but would most likely like to have the Jets, Ravens, or Steelers -possible late round guys - Ryan Fitzpatrick, McNabb, LT, Sanchez, and Ronnie Brown damn i'm a genius...http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2011/2011-kubiak-vs-adp (overvalued and undervalued players) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadium-Armory Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I drafted in the 10th spot, in a 10 person league this evening, and took: 10 Drew Brees, NO QB 11 Michael Turner, Atl RB 30 Mike Wallace, Pit WR 31 Santonio Holmes, NYJ WR 50 Jahvid Best, Det RB 51 Beanie Wells, Ari RB 70 Ryan Mathews, SD RB 71 Malcom Floyd, SD WR 90 Rob Gronkowski, NE TE 91 James Jones, GB WR 110 Jay Cutler, Chi QB 111 Patriots D/ST D/ST 130 Bernard Berrian, Min WR 131 Dustin Keller, NYJ TE 150 Chargers D/ST D/ST 151 Mason Crosby, GB K QB, 2WR, 2RB, Flex, TE, DEF/ST, K. Football outsiders is awesome btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 If manning doesn't play, you can have Clark, Tamme and any other Colt you want. Curtis Painter couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, and Kerry Collins.. they may as well have signed Vinny Testaverde. With Manning they're a 12-4 team. Without him they're 3-13 at best. He's that much of it. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjpanzer Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 So after the 12 team draft (I picked 9th) my RB/WR situation was as follows: Please keep in mind my league starts 2 RB and 3WR (no flex!). Non PPR. RB: Lesean McCoy Darren McFadden Matt Forte Joseph Addai Michael Bush WR: Brandon Lloyd Brandon Marshall Malcolm Floyd Mike Thomas Danny Amendola I did the following trade: Gave Matt Forte and Brandon LLoyd for Vincent Jackson. Everyone says I got fleeced, but the way I see it I gave a bench player and Brandon Lloyd for Vincent Jackson. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royallypwned Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 ^ I'll say this. I'd rather be the team getting Forte and Lloyd than the one getting Jackson. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Sleeper TEs:Graham *surely gone* Cook Moeaki Boss Fred Davis Todd Heap (goes nice with Kolb) If you don't mention Greg Olsen, you don't know sleeper TEs. Athletic freak who's been stuck playing in Mike Martz's extremely TE-unfriendly scheme, suddenly the darling of the Carolina Panthers who: 1) Were willing to give up value to get Olsen, suggesting he's a big part of their plans 2) Will be starting a young QB, and young QBs are notorious for their reliance on their tight ends 3) Feature a TE-friendly offense designed by a former TE You're sleeping on a tremendous sleeper. RBs:Kendell Hunter Brandon Jacobs Jerome Harrison All three may be starting this year. True. Problem is, if all three start, then all three will be terrible. When it comes to RBs who "may start," you have to make sure that you're sitting on backs who won't suck out loud if they do happen to luck-box their way into a starting gig. Here are a couple super-sleepers who could actually handle multiple NFL starts: - Ben Tate - Roy Helu - DeMarco Murray - Alex Green When it comes to stashing players on your roster, you want to stash guys who would actually be able to crack your starting lineup if they wound up getting 20 touches a game. Hunter, Jacobs, and Harrison would all wilt at that possibility. But go ahead, start them and enjoy the 57 yards you get at 2.2 ypc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obibyn23 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 So we just started a slow draft in one of my leagues. This new guy has the 9th pick. Its his first year playing fantasy so we are expecting some laughs but nothing major...with the 9th pick...he takes Tom Brady. I bit of a reach...but not horrible...i guess. So his next pick he takes Philip Rivers....yes...Rivers. This isnt a 2 starting qb league and tds are only 4 points. So we all get a giggle...and the commish gives him some pointers. We shrug it off as some rookie blues.... Then the hilarity ensues...with his third round pick...the guy takes....wait for it....sitting down? You might want to.... Vonta Leach!!!!...I kid you not. A FB with his 3rd round pick. Ahmad Bradshaw, Mike Wallace, Desean Jackson all still available...and he takes a fb who scored a total of 17.10 points the entire season last year... Needless to say I damn near crapped my paints. Just wanted to share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drop Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 So we just started a slow draft in one of my leagues. This new guy has the 9th pick. Its his first year playing fantasy so we are expecting some laughs but nothing major...with the 9th pick...he takes Tom Brady. I bit of a reach...but not horrible...i guess. So his next pick he takes Philip Rivers....yes...Rivers. This isnt a 2 starting qb league and tds are only 4 points. So we all get a giggle...and the commish gives him some pointers. We shrug it off as some rookie blues....Then the hilarity ensues...with his third round pick...the guy takes....wait for it....sitting down? You might want to.... Vonta Leach!!!!...I kid you not. A FB with his 3rd round pick. Ahmad Bradshaw, Mike Wallace, Desean Jackson all still available...and he takes a fb who scored a total of 17.10 points the entire season last year... Needless to say I damn near crapped my paints. Just wanted to share. wow, that guy has no business playing fantasy football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f_trizzy Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 If I offered Dwayne Bowe and Ryan Grant for Shonn Greene and Lee Evans do you think I would be giving up too much, not enough, or fair value? FWII... My other WR are Fitzgerald, Maclin, Collie, Lance Moore and Jordy Nelson My other RB are Steven Jackson, Best, Jerome Harrison and Delone Carter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 If I offered Dwayne Bowe and Ryan Grant for Shonn Greene and Lee Evans do you think I would be giving up too much, not enough, or fair value? I think it's not a fair trade only for the Bowe aspect. He's clearly better than anyone else in the deal, and Evans likely will not approach his numbers. I don't like any of your running backs, so something has to be done. Shonn Green disappointed last year, and I am leery. Tomlinson still has too much in the tank and could make Greene another FF afterthought. Grant for Greene is fair at this point. I'd Keep Bowe if I could. He may help offset what could easily be a paltry season of points from your RBs ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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