Renegade7 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, Chachie said: Gentlemen, I just want to point out real quickly that you're all still trying to analyze this team to figure out how things can get better. Stop it. Where's the fun in that? : ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 We need to do whatever possible to bring back Thomas Bryant. It baffles me that we gave Mahinmi that much money. Like wow, that guy sucks. Frankly all those contracts that Destino posted are absurd aside from Troy Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Is it weird that I forgot Otto was on the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, CRobi21 said: Is it weird that I forgot Otto was on the team? No, not when he forgets he's on the team, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, CRobi21 said: Is it weird that I forgot Otto was on the team? but analytics man.........think of the analytics 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 57 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: but analytics man.........think of the analytics Otto's value is in the VORPDORPTORPZORP stat. Tops in the league by .31 Seeing the most efficient usage when 3/4 of the court is shaded by the Jumbotron, combined with when Porter has oatmeal with almond butter for breakfast on saturdays. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) If analytics were balls, Otto would be the Suge Knight of this basketball team. "Gator don't take no ****." Will Ferrall lookin ass. Edited January 3, 2019 by Renegade7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Like how do you not just grab a chair from the bench and put it across the refs back. WWE style.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Young Mr Bryant is having a night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Ariza should have run into the ref like that. Then when he gets ejected he can appeal to the league and say it shouldn’t count as contact with an official because it doesn’t rise to the level of an official calling it a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Good to see the Wizards still don’t comprehend how to defend the puck and roll. Lin and Len could score 85 between them if that was the only play they ran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 These long stretches without a center just allow opponents to crush the wizards around the rim. Brooks gonna Brooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 These refs have allowed the Hawks to get away with offensive charges all night. But not the wizards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Typical dog**** NBA officiating aside, that was another nice showing from Bryant and Dekker. Those two are keepers. You need Dekker's effort and off ball awareness. He is a quality bench garbage man. Good to see Otto back too. We'll get better when he can replace Green in the starting line up. We need more Troy Brown. His minutes are too uneven for him to find rhythms. His decision making is 50-50, but it won't get better without playing. Why are we still fighting for the 8th seed? Play the kid. Tank. Call up Devin Robinson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: Why are we still fighting for the 8th seed? Play the kid. Tank. Call up Devin Robinson. Bryant is going to play himself into a contract we cant afford for grunfeldian reasons. Missing out on him while paying 21mil combined to Mahinmi and whatever is left of Dwight's back will hurt Edited January 3, 2019 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 From Real GM Quote In the wake of the latest trade, it is time to revise the list of Ernie's accomplishments since choosing Otto Porter #3 in the 2013 draft. Lets start by pointing to the positive side of the ledger: in 2018 Ernie picked a player at #15 in the draft who looks like he might be promising. "Looks like" & "might be" are the best we can say so far, given how little the kid has played. What else has he done? Well, lets start by listing the resources he used: He's used eleven (11) R2 picks -- 2 in 2013 & every one after that all the way through 2022 -- he's used them all. He's used 4 R1 picks, one of which was a lottery pick. That's all our R1 picks from 2014-2017. What have we added to the team by way of those fifteen picks? Using all those picks we have acquired: The expiring salaries of Markieff Morris & Trevor Ariza. & Sam Dekker. That's it. Trevor Ariza is a short term rental, & Kieff is simply a bad player. Dekker is a maybe as a player, & he's also a maybe to keep past this year. If we decide not to re-sign Sam Dekker, then we will have gotten nothing at all -- a complete zero -- for 15 draft picks. Note: I haven't bothered to list our ownership of Aaron White's NBA rights as something we've gotten, as he'll never play in the NBA. & I speculate the same about our ownership of the NBA rights to Issuf Sanon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 It's even worse than that Benning when you widen the perspective to his entire draft record as the GM of the Wizards. The ONLY players he's drafted that actually made it to second contracts here are Wall, Beal, Porter, and good old Andray Blatche. Hopefully Sato joins them this summer, but that is astonishingly bad. It's hard to figure out how many picks we've wasted because so many of them were dealt in fruitless trades that gave us no long term value (Miller/Foye, Gortat, Keef Morris, Bogdanovich, an innumerable number of second rounders), but I believe Ernie has had 33 draft picks to use in his time as Wizards GM. To get only four keepers from them is inconceivably horrible. And one of them was a complete turd whose extension was a mistake that we had to amnesty!!! And, of course, the other three were top three picks who got max extensions. A complete layman could get an Eastern conference midseed with those assets. Not only that, John, Brad, and Otto have now completed 19 seasons between the three of them. We only have six All Star appearances to show for that, five of them belonging to John. We got no extra value from those picks. Why the **** does Ernie still have a job? Jesus Christ. He has been indefensibly awful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 There should be literally no one on the face of the planet who would think Grunfeld is top 100, much less top 30, personnel guy in the NBA. Hell, I think you could just draft chalk mock draft averages and draft better than Grunfeld (is it possible to do worse than Grunfeld? I guess on some theoretical level maybe?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Beal should beg to be traded. Cant get enough fan support to be ahead of Jeremy Lin. Beal and Wall are 39th and 40th in fan voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Beal and Wall aren't likable right now. Partly because they are losing so much. Then the drama on the roster and the Org as a whole. Not surprised by this at all. Look, if Grant Hill and Yao Ming were on the AS Ballot, they'd be voted as starters right now. It's how it was when they were always hurt. But they were famous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 The Wizards fanbase is tiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said: Beal and Wall aren't likable right now. Partly because they are losing so much. Then the drama on the roster and the Org as a whole. Not surprised by this at all. Look, if Grant Hill and Yao Ming were on the AS Ballot, they'd be voted as starters right now. It's how it was when they were always hurt. But they were famous. Half these guys arent likable people. lol Those are just pathetic vote totals, regardless the reason. Zach Lavine isnt famous and he doubled both of them up. But it's like this every year for Wizards all star candidates. I think Gilbert got up to 2nd in the Eastern guards once. That's about the best showing I can remember, not counting Jordan. Edited January 3, 2019 by justice98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, justice98 said: Half these guys arent likable people. lol Those are just pathetic vote totals, regardless the reason. Zach Lavine isnt famous and he doubled both of them up. But it's like this every year for Wizards all star candidates. I think Gilbert got up to 2nd in the Eastern guards once. That's about the best showing I can remember, not counting Jordan. It is kind of amazing how in a community that does have some deep roots in hoops, the pro team here that is owned by the same guy as the hockey team is marketed so poorly in comparison. Yeah, the Caps win a lot more. Yeah, they both do the stupid fashion show tweets when players arrive to the arena. The franchise has no identity. Maybe the other teams do a better job of pushing their players than the Wizards. Maybe it's as simple as the name "Wizards" is beyond stupid. I don't know. But as a life-long Washingtonian, every single other local pro-team has done a better job at various points. We can blame the fans I guess for not voting for them. I wouldn't. Edited January 3, 2019 by @SkinsGoldPants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said: Maybe it's as simple as the name "Wizards" is beyond stupid. As a professional nerd who goes to a lot of science fiction and comic book conventions to hawk his books and art... I kind of like Wizards. What we need more of is a cosplay vibe in the NBA. 🤓 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Burgold said: As a professional nerd who goes to a lot of science fiction and comic book conventions to hawk his books and art... I kind of like Wizards. What we need more of is a cosplay vibe in the NBA. 🤓 Getting old here. But when I see the pictures of these guys showing up to the arena, I do wonder if they are cosplaying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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