Going Commando Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Somebody needs to get fired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Bad sign when the best players are visibly frustrated and clearly have no idea what they have to do. That means zero leadership. No one telling them 'Trust me, keep grinding, it will happen'. I would be surprised if Wall or Beal dont ask for a trade at some point. They know they wont win here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Llevron said: Bad sign when the best players are visibly frustrated and clearly have no idea what they have to do. That means zero leadership. No one telling them 'Trust me, keep grinding, it will happen'. I would be surprised if Wall or Beal dont ask for a trade at some point. They know they wont win here. Or if they are being told, they clearly lack the belief in the messenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) I'm not really moved by any of this because I didnt really expect much to begin with. I was on record saying this probably wasn't a 50-win team. That said, they're even worse and more dysfunctional than I thought. Didnt necessarily think they were gonna be a sub .500 team either. We'll see where they finish, it's still October. If they wind up 44-38, I wont be shocked by that either. They have stretches of bad basketball literally every year, where they'll be 3-9 over a period, or drop 5 straight or something. In situations like this, I'm in the camp of wanting it to bottom out. Like, they need to go 30-52 or something. Just be awful all the way through. Salvaging a mediocre season would be the worst. Just good enough to be out of the lottery, not good enough to be threat. Get rid of Ernie, get rid of Brooks, blow the thing up at the deadline, and start over. Edited October 31, 2018 by justice98 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I still think we'll throw together a home winning streak but damn we look bad to start the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 52 minutes ago, justice98 said: I'm not really moved by any of this because I didnt really expect much to begin with. I was on record saying this probably wasn't a 50-win team. That said, they're even worse and more dysfunctional than I thought. Didnt necessarily think they were gonna be a sub .500 team either. We'll see where they finish, it's still October. If they wind up 44-38, I wont be shocked by that either. They have stretches of bad basketball literally every year, where they'll be 3-9 over a period, or drop 5 straight or something. In situations like this, I'm in the camp of wanting it to bottom out. Like, they need to go 30-52 or something. Just be awful all the way through. Salvaging a mediocre season would be the worst. Just good enough to be out of the lottery, not good enough to be threat. Get rid of Ernie, get rid of Brooks, blow the thing up at the deadline, and start over. get zion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 They will end up with 44 wins and this will be seen as a heroic season. They really need to fall off the treadmill. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 20 minutes ago, ixcuincle said: get zion I'm just gonna pretend this is the plan until they start winning just enough to make you think they figured it out and then lose enough to make me hate basketball again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 9 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: Somebody needs to get fired. Don't see that until after Howard comes back. I'm sure that's the excuse Ernie uses everytime he passes Ted in the hallway right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) I am all in for the tank. Just give up on this year. Then fire Scott and fire Ernie. This team has repeatedly made the playoffs and flamed out. If they do terribly, there won't be job security for Ernie. He'll be gone, Wizards can get some real people in the FO and draft Zion Willimson too. Just give up on this year. It is the best solution to get talent on this team. Edited October 31, 2018 by ixcuincle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 They gonna do well enough to get the 8 and lose to the Raptors again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgundyMalaise Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I wanted the Wiz to go after Julius Randle, a guy I watched a lot being a Lakers fan. He's the perfect type of player for a team like this. We need to body people if they want to be taken seriously on the floor. Randle is a Draymond-type glue guy. Rats 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 They looks out coached and undisciplined, not out talented right now. Two opposing coaches in a row talking about chemistry over talent, those WERE direct shots at us, no doubt in my mind. Only spot truly devoid talent is center, that won't be case with healthy Howard. They are getting out coached so bad it might not matter, that my real concern. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDeep81 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Oh my... ? I know they wanted to get id of Gortat and if they can ever get Howard on the court it'll make a difference, but w/o that pick and roll they seem entirely dysfunctional on that end of the court.. But worst in the league is hard to swallow, even w/o Dwight.. Too much money spent for this poor of a product. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 The good thing is the Rockets are so bad right now that no one is noticing the Wiz. Blow it up and start again. Wall the the Suns for their first round pick, Beal to the Celtics for their highest pick in this years draft. Take back garbage salaries, end up with 3 top-10 picks this season and commence rebuild. By the time the Wiz are good, the Warriors won't be and the C's will have had to start paying guys big money which will diminish their depth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 16 hours ago, StillUnknown said: he's been here 15 years, with the only constant being a distinct lack of player accountability. My biggest issue with Grunfeld is that he shows absolutely no foresight. Part of the job of a GM is to able to move with the NBA. Ernie stared at the NBA moving to positionless basketball and bigs who are expected to stretch the floor and gave 64mil to Mahinmi while keepin Gortat on the roster for another 20mil. He has 3 max contracts and trades draft picks which could be used for cheap depth purposes. instead he signs trash like Nicholson, Frazier, Meeks, & Jason Smith, and inexplicably gave the last 2 player options. He had a prime talent in John Wall fall into his lap and wasted his formative years running Wittman's old ass offense and now has transitioned to an individual who was probably only hired on the prayer that it enticed KD (PS it didn't) I love you Chachie, but this is where we part ways. Grunfeld trash and this will be his final stop in the NBA. All very astute analyses. No argument from me on any of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why am I Mr. Pink? Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I watched maybe 20 mins last night .... thats some bad basketball. Without the high pick and roll like years past ... I dont see many set plays actually being successfully executed. Wall is always angry, that has to get old as a team mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Why am I Mr. Pink? said: Wall is always angry, that has to get old as a team mate. I'm sure it does. It's hard to blame him though. The squad sucks and he wants to win. Like.i would curse out Morris ever day if he wasnt a whole person taller than me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) The team has look pretty bad in 2017-18 and 18-19 Phil Chenier stopped broadcasting in April 2017 Curse of Chenier!!???? Happy Halloween! Edited October 31, 2018 by ixcuincle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 26 minutes ago, Llevron said: Like.i would curse out Morris ever day if he wasnt a whole person taller than me. That guy's a knucklehead. Opponents have figured out that he's mentally weak. Just talk some trash to him and he'll get a tech, maybe ejected. His act is old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Why am I Mr. Pink? said: I watched maybe 20 mins last night .... thats some bad basketball. Without the high pick and roll like years past ... I dont see many set plays actually being successfully executed. Wall is always angry, that has to get old as a team mate. I'd rather him angry then shrugging. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Wall and Beal clearly care. But they're pressing and ultimately impotent. This roster isn't working. This system isn't working. This staff and FO aren't working. Our problems are cultural, chemical, and systemic. The players are utterly lost out there on the court. And the team has no identity. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: Wall and Beal clearly care. But they're pressing and ultimately impotent. This roster isn't working. This system isn't working. This staff and FO aren't working. Our problems are cultural, chemical, and systemic. The players are utterly lost out there on the court. And the team has no identity. This kills me more then anything with this team. As a fan, I ask that you give a damn first. This is clearly a case of working harder failing and needing to work smarter. I learned that lesson in my early 20s and I was washing dishes for a living, this is supposed to be a Professional basketball franchise, but I can't tell. Edited October 31, 2018 by Renegade7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 The wizards will improve. They’re no where near as bad as they look now. What we’re seeing is the culture and coaching working through some of it’s weaknesses. This culture has never demanded players show up in great shape and ready to play, so there’s a good chance they’re playing their way into game shape. Again. Brooks famously doesn’t coach player movement more than absolutely necessary, and this seems to extend to both sides of the floor. He’s all about guys being free to do whatever they want. You can see that freedom philosophy with the useless amount of switching and disarray on defense. I’ve read his practices are soft as well. Combine these things and you have guys literally trying to work out how they want to play defense as a team, during games. Think of these early games as extended training camp... and further proof of organizational incompetence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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