Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 ryan leaf is probably the worst 1st round QB of all time. russell is top 5 in terms of terrible though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Russell is clearly the bigger bust, and I don't find it coincidental that only the detractors, who have been dumping all blame on Campbell since at least last season, are the only ones saying otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankRizzo Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Both were drafted way higher than they should have been, but when you're a #1#1 and play like Russell has....he's the bigger bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheItalianStallion Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Campbell is an average QB. Russell is a bad QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsRMoney06 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Gotta be Russell. I dont think ive ever seen a more inaccurate QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 In 23 starts he's won 3 games by 11 or more points.JC has won 1 game by more than 9 points in 40+ games now. Also, the Raiders are the joke of the league. The Redskins become closer to the Raiders every time Jason Campbell steps on the field. Those are team stats directly affected by the other 10 guys on the field at a given time. So in that same time span the same can be said about Portis, Cooley, Moss, etc., that they haven't been good enough to beat a team by multiple scores. Redskins weren't getting closer to the Raiders when we had a healthy OL in '08. They were 6-2. Our pass AND run game aren't performing right now, and just like last year when BOTH units struggled, what is the common denominator? The QB and RB who were doing fine before? Or the injured OL missing Samuels both times and avergaing 33 yrs old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Anyone who didn't say Russell has obviously never see the guy play in the NFL. You're very fortunate - I'll say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwookas Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Both of them were prime time players at Auburn and LSU. But it comes down to the numbers lets check them out...... Jason Campbell: Drafted 1st Round (25th overall) by the Washington Redskins 43 TDS 30 INT 16-20 career record as starter JaMarcus Russell: Drafted first overall in 2007 17 TDS 20 INT 5-11 career record as starter How can you say that Campbell is a bust. This is the third season that he has been the primary signal caller. He is still young. It just sucks that everyone is taking the teams woes out on him. Yall act like his career is getting ready to end or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoRUSupposed2Be Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Jarmarcus Russel sucks the life out of that franchise along with Al Davis. Jason Campbell just sucks right now and will suck behind center some other place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 How can you say that Campbell is a bust. This is the third season that he has been the primary signal caller. He is still young. It just sucks that everyone is taking the teams woes out on him. Yall act like his career is getting ready to end or something. Campbell is not "young". He's 28 years old. Thats the prime years of an NFL player. If he doesn't get it by now he never will. He will be a backup at best next year and be out of meaningful football. reg. the question...definitely Russell. Campbell is dime-a-dozen bad but Russell might be historically bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaSkin Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Jason Campbell is Patrick Ramsey bad (actually slightly better by the numbers but in the ballpark) Ramsey is still a backup in the NFL. JaMarcus Russell is actually Heath Shuler bad - maybe even worse. Funny thing is that Campbell & Ramsey were low first round picks (35th & 32nd) while Russell & Shuler were very high picks (1st & 3rd). This season Russell is trying to get into the Ryan Leaf biggest bust of all time comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahogs Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Russel's the bigger bust. Russel's a diva that's done nothing, runs with his posse, and went #1 overall (though one could argue he was never worth that high a pick). Campbell's at least humble, from what we've heard works hard, doesn't run around with thugs, and never should have been drafted in the 1st round to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhouse Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 How is this even a debate? Russell by a mile -He's the number 1 overall pick (this alone should end the discussion) -Campbell is not a bad QB, he's inconsistent + he's not fit for the West Coast offense but he's a far better QB than Russell. Russel has a big arm and that's about it. Edit: (wooohooooo 1000 posts!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 QUOTE=Zhouse;6953687]How is this even a debate? Russell by a mile I agree completely. Since Russell was taken #1 and paid like Peyton Manning, I'm saying Russell by a loooooooong shot. I don't think its even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Now how did I miss THIS thread lol :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmiii Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 No discussion - Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36HAMMER Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 i have to agree with gfunk,there's no comparaison at all.the only question is if russell could do any better with a real team.it takes a real strong person to do well in oakland.theres no sttruture and a young qb with a lifetimes worth of guarenteed money to play with and no structure is asking for trouble.i have always thought that campbell had the ability if he had the line to help.the younger manning gets a free pass but his line has been the best and sense they have struggled with injuries this year so has he.yet when campbell does its all on him.yes he has made some mistakes but i am not sure if anyone here has any idea the pressure and stuff this young man has gone through sense coming here.and mainly this year with the front office throwing him under the bud.portis has wined louder and longer for alot less.this young (campbell) is a true professional and it is refreshing in a time when most can't keep their mouth shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 russell by a landslide. hes the worst 1st overall draft pick of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braxford Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Russell is a huge bust so far in his career. Campbell is a solid not spectacular QB's. But not many QB's are spectacular to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 What a ridiculous concept. It's Russel by a mile, and you would be correct if your second choice was left blank. He's arguably the worst draft pick of all time. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drastik Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 It's utterly AMAZING that people think Jason Campbell is a bigger BUST than Jamarcus. The same people get offended when others say they have an agenda though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Russell is the biggest bust by far. He was the #1 pick!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Is this even a question ? Campbell is a decent NFL starting QB who is probably playing himself into at least another year as our starter or has someone who might have some trade value. Russell is a major, major bust who will stuggle to get a on a roster if/when the Raiders pull the plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 russell by a landslide.hes the worst 1st overall draft pick of all time. Completely forgot that he was number one overall. I mean, wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Completely forgot that he was number one overall.I mean, wow. he is so bad its not even funny. he should be just cut, he serves absolutely no purpose in the NFL. did you see how many sacks we got when he was in there vs when gradkowski played? it was night and day x10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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