Warhead36 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Koolblue13 said: Yep, old guard nepotism hire for a friend. Been my take since day one. Yeah I think Ron's best case scenario is hope EB turns the offense around, they win 10-11 games, and he can maybe transition to a FO position while EB takes over as the HC. Worst case is everyone gets fired, but that was probably gonna happen anyway. Might as well throw a friend a bone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 FO Ron is every bit as woeful as HC Ron. Unless FO Ron is cleaning the bathrooms or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Couldn’t find the other thread but Magic has thoughts on the Dodgers playoff exit. He’s a minority owner there too. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Oh I see what people meant about Magic tweeting, okay I’m caught up lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: Couldn’t find the other thread but Magic has thoughts on the Dodgers playoff exit. He’s a minority owner there too. Say goodbye to the Dodgers' pitching and hitting coaches. Other than that, I'm sure they played fine! 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 23 hours ago, Est.1974 said: I think we’re already beyond code red. Code Burgundy? Sorry, I was thinking about the uniforms we'll probably be wearing in a few weeks... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Talking about decorating doors at the park, I wish Harris would put this on JDRs door, since Ron never will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 For anyone wondering why many of the NFL owners refused to actually vote out Snyder after his scandals broke…I bet at least 20% of organizations have this stuff going on to some degree. Needs to be cleared up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnySideUp Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 We're getting a glimpse of Ron the motivator now. Looks like he's figured out what the problems are. NBC4 sports Washington did an interview with Ron earlier this week in which they asked him basically if he had assessed the tapes yet and figured out why they aren't winning. The conversation went something like this. The words aren't exact but they are close: Interviewer - "have you had a chance to review the tapes and analyze what the Commanders' problems are? Ron - "yes, we have". Interviewer - "What have you found?" Ron - "none of us are doing the things we need to do to win well enough". Interviewer - "how do you plan to fix that?" Ron - "we're all going to start doing better at the things we need to do to win". Today, Ron has had a new sign installed in the team's locker room. https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/ron_rivera_turns_to_new_do_your_job_commanders_locker_room_sign_for_message/s1_16457_39379101 “Because I think, looking at the tape, watching the game, our previous five games, looking at some of the stuff that I read, the numbers, obviously to me, there’s a sense and a feel that we’re not doing the things that we need to do,” Rivera said, per Nicki Jhabvala of The Washington Post. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, SonnySideUp said: We're getting a glimpse of Ron the motivator now. Looks like he's figured out what the problems are. NBC4 sports Washington did an interview with Ron earlier this week in which they asked him basically if he had assessed the tapes yet and figured out why they aren't winning. The conversation went something like this. The words aren't exact but they are close: Interviewer - "have you had a chance to review the tapes and analyze what the Commanders' problems are? Ron - "yes, we have". Interviewer - "What have you found?" Ron - "none of us are doing the things we need to do to win well enough". Interviewer - "how do you plan to fix that?" Ron - "we're all going to start doing better at the things we need to do to win". Today, Ron has had a new sign installed in the team's locker room. https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/ron_rivera_turns_to_new_do_your_job_commanders_locker_room_sign_for_message/s1_16457_39379101 “Because I think, looking at the tape, watching the game, our previous five games, looking at some of the stuff that I read, the numbers, obviously to me, there’s a sense and a feel that we’re not doing the things that we need to do,” Rivera said, per Nicki Jhabvala of The Washington Post. Did they take down the “Start fast” signs? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: Couldn’t find the other thread but Magic has thoughts on the Dodgers playoff exit. He’s a minority owner there too. This is the most John Madden tweet of all time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Was listening to the Keim podcast and they said that Josh Harris is a very patient and educated man. It's not wrong. Previously Snyder would have flipped out and made quicksale changes throughout the season (Norv ring a bell anyone?) Firing people 25% into the season is very reactionary. Harris is not Snyder. One of his advantages is that he will wait to see what happens the rest of the year, if things appear pointless then he will sack Ron, but not before then. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stihl89 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Everyone in the world knows he’s getting fired. Don’t see any negative to firing him. This isn’t an equal to Dan move. Hell Dan was right firing Norv. He was here 6 years and was clear that he had run his path. I legit don’t see a single negative to firing Ron today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 The negative is that's just not how a competent organization works. Josh will take his time. I don't know if Ron is the coach we need anymore but he's not being fired anytime soon, or at least until the end of the year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 I don't think firing RR during the season is either impulsive or irresponsibly reactionary. It would be a decision based on 4 years of underachieving, poorly prepared, inexplicably crafted, routinely out-coached teams. That new sign is absolutely laughable. Do YOUR job, RR.......both of them. For 4 years, he has failed and it has adversely affected our production on the field. The league office would understand why, and so would other owners. Agents too......and that's as important. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor_Nutter_Butter Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 19 hours ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: Couldn’t find the other thread but Magic has thoughts on the Dodgers playoff exit. He’s a minority owner there too. Magic with the in-depth analysis. I look forward to when he'll inevitably say Washington lost because they didn't score more points than their opponent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Magic's tweets about the Dodgers don't interest me; those about our team do. His tweet last Thursday was a collective reflection of what the ownership group thinks. For nearly 4 years, RR got away with pulling the wool over the eyes of an owner who knew absolutely nothing about leadership, and even less about football. That won't work with this ownership group. RR should've put that new sign in his car or beside his bathroom mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 44 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Stihl89 said: Everyone in the world knows he’s getting fired. Don’t see any negative to firing him. This isn’t an equal to Dan move. Hell Dan was right firing Norv. He was here 6 years and was clear that he had run his path. I legit don’t see a single negative to firing Ron today. I dont see any benefit, other than to placate the fans, to firing Ron now or even anytime in season. Pretty certain that the GMs also getting canned, if you fire Ron are you asking Mayhew to bring in his replacement? Promote one of the current OC's? that's not going to help either. Fire the GM and Ron now? Whos going to run the organization for the rest of the year? Pretty sure Harris already has a plan in place and work is being done behind the scenes for next year, expecting that by the last couple of games changes will very much be in motion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stihl89 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Chris 44 said: I dont see any benefit, other than to placate the fans, to firing Ron now or even anytime in season. Pretty certain that the GMs also getting canned, if you fire Ron are you asking Mayhew to bring in his replacement? Promote one of the current OC's? that's not going to help either. Fire the GM and Ron now? Whos going to run the organization for the rest of the year? Pretty sure Harris already has a plan in place and work is being done behind the scenes for next year, expecting that by the last couple of games changes will very much be in motion. Its to prevent him from dragging this team to 7-8 wins again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 44 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Stihl89 said: Its to prevent him from dragging this team to 7-8 wins again 7 or 8 wins? Lol, no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 20 hours ago, SonnySideUp said: We're getting a glimpse of Ron the motivator now. Looks like he's figured out what the problems are. NBC4 sports Washington did an interview with Ron earlier this week in which they asked him basically if he had assessed the tapes yet and figured out why they aren't winning. The conversation went something like this. The words aren't exact but they are close: Interviewer - "have you had a chance to review the tapes and analyze what the Commanders' problems are? Ron - "yes, we have". Interviewer - "What have you found?" Ron - "none of us are doing the things we need to do to win well enough". Interviewer - "how do you plan to fix that?" Ron - "we're all going to start doing better at the things we need to do to win". Today, Ron has had a new sign installed in the team's locker room. https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/ron_rivera_turns_to_new_do_your_job_commanders_locker_room_sign_for_message/s1_16457_39379101 “Because I think, looking at the tape, watching the game, our previous five games, looking at some of the stuff that I read, the numbers, obviously to me, there’s a sense and a feel that we’re not doing the things that we need to do,” Rivera said, per Nicki Jhabvala of The Washington Post. Doesn’t quite have the same ring as “Believe” but hey what do I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 Dec. 4 is the day to look at. It’s the day after the Dolphins game. Miami May break 70 in that game. Dec. 10 is the bye week and there’s 4 games after that. Perfect time for an in season coaching change. EB gets his audition and we get a jump on the 24 hiring cycle. Remember we aren’t just hiring a coach but a Gm. Since you want the Gm to make that final decision on coach; you want a new Gm hired quickly in the hiring cycle. I’m sure Josh will start interviewing coaches also but the final round and actual decision should be the gms. As for Ron and co. The decision to replace them has likely been made. Only thing, do they get to finish the season? Or things get so bad, a firing before bye is warranted. Or is my bye week suggestion feasible? Either way, we move from the former owners hires no later than January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, 88Comrade2000 said: Dec. 4 is the day to look at. It’s the day after the Dolphins game. Miami May break 70 in that game. Dec. 10 is the bye week and there’s 4 games after that. Perfect time for an in season coaching change. EB gets his audition and we get a jump on the 24 hiring cycle. Remember we aren’t just hiring a coach but a Gm. Since you want the Gm to make that final decision on coach; you want a new Gm hired quickly in the hiring cycle. I’m sure Josh will start interviewing coaches also but the final round and actual decision should be the gms. As for Ron and co. The decision to replace them has likely been made. Only thing, do they get to finish the season? Or things get so bad, a firing before bye is warranted. Or is my bye week suggestion feasible? Either way, we move from the former owners hires no later than January. If they go 2-5 or worse, why wait until the bye in December. Josh is already concerned about ticket sales because he wanted the fans back. IMO, he probably won't wait that long to make a change Edited October 14, 2023 by NoVaSkins21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 2 hours ago, NoVaSkins21 said: If they go 2-5 or worse, why wait until the bye in December. Josh is already concerned about ticket sales because he wanted the fans back. IMO, he probably won't wait that long to make a change Firing Ron isn’t going help attendance this season. The team sucks and people aren’t going watch crap, regardless of who’s coaching the team. This season is a lost season, regardless of how we finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, 88Comrade2000 said: Firing Ron isn’t going help attendance this season. The team sucks and people aren’t going watch crap, regardless of who’s coaching the team. This season is a lost season, regardless of how we finish. Wait! You're not advocating firing Ron right away?!? DO YOUR JOB 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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