Rufus T Firefly Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Consigliere said: I think they're thinking on that, is that the value Brisset provides for Howell, as a veteran support, is of more long term value than a late sixth or seventh rounder would be. That could be true. I'd still trade Brissett and bring in some other good vet QB, but they're keeping him, and it's not a stupid reason to me (much better justification than whatever reasoning they'd use to keep Allen or Payne if either of those guys carry day 1 or day 2 trade comp value). I think Flacco still wants to play, and he seems like he's become a mentor type lately. Again, not to trade Brissett for nothing, but if there is a decent offer for him I'd take it and look to replace him with someone like Flacco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: "star" pass rusher...lolol. Love how all our guys are suddenly league superstars now that they're on their way out of Washington. Star pass rushers aren't DE from Dallas?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Bears adopting the Dan Snyder old school Washington approach 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Acre Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: We can't trade Payne. It would destroy our cap because he just signed a new contract. We have the richest owner in the world. He can unilaterally destroy the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Consigliere Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: We can't trade Payne. It would destroy our cap because he just signed a new contract. A boy can dream, but thanks for that technical reality check. I don't keep up with cap based trade penalties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: There's no one on this roster that's worth more than the draft pick they'd get in return, outside of maybe Howell and Terry. And I feel bad saddling Howell with this mess but it is what it is. I think Payne is still worth a 1st round pick. He plays every game and is still productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tress Is The Way Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, The Consigliere said: A boy can dream, but thanks for that technical reality check. I don't keep up with cap based trade penalties. Yeah you're talking 28 million in dead cap, no thanks lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, kingdaddy said: I think Payne is still worth a 1st round pick. He plays every game and is still productive. That's fair, I overlooked him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Skinsinparadise said: Bears adopting the Dan Snyder old school Washington approach We should strike again while the irons hot then Convince them to take Chase, Milne and Rivera for their 1st then 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnySideUp Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just hypothetical... https://clutchpoints.com/commanders-trade-2023-nfl-deadline >>1 last-minute trade Commanders must complete before 2023 NFL deadline Commanders trade Chase Young to New Orleans Saints Saints receive: Young, fifth-round pick Commanders receive: second-round pick Why the Commanders do it There are two reasons why the Commanders could and should look to deal Chase Young. One of which would be that Washington already has a lot invested in their defensive line. Jonathan Allen, a star defensive tackle, is currently in the second year of the four-year $72 million extension he signed a year ago. Da'Ron Payne, another staunch defensive tackle, is under contract for three more years and the Commanders are on the hook for at least the next two seasons at $21.6 million and $26.1 million respectively. Complicating matters is the fact that both Young and Montez Sweat are impending free agents. Which leads to the other reason the Commanders should look to move Young: he simply hasn't produced the way Washington would've hoped when they selected him second overall in the 2020 NFL Draft. Though Young is enjoying a bounce back season this year (he ranks 11th among edge rushers in ESPN's pass rush win rate metric), Sweat has been the more productive and available player in their careers. Sweat has 34.5 sacks in 66 career games, while Young has 14 sacks in only 33 games. His rookie season saw him produce 7.5 sacks came in his rookie year. Since then, he has 6.5 sacks in 18 games played. Health has really hampered Young's career, but it has put his standing with the Commanders in a precarious spot. As a result, his name has swirled in trade rumors. Washington probably can't keep both Young and Sweat. Young could be the one who could be sent packing. Why the Saints do it The Saints badly need support rushing the passer. They currently rank 30th in ESPN's pass rush win rate. They also simply don't have that many sacks. New Orleans has 13 sacks on the season, tied for fifth-lowest in the NFL. Only the Los Angeles Rams, New York Giants, Chicago Bears, and Houston Texans have fewer sacks on the season. And of the 13 sacks they do have, 4.5 of them have come from Carl Granderson. They need more pass rushers and have a history of making win now moves. They could be the ones to pay up for either Young or Sweat. Young being 24 years old could fetch more draft picks. If the Commanders get an offer like this, this would be a trade that would benefit both sides.<< 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I would think the Bills or Chiefs could use Samuel....maybe the Chargers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: We can't trade Payne. It would destroy our cap because he just signed a new contract. Not before the deadline, no. Would have had to do some cray amount of maneuvering to fit in that kind of move and, even if that were slightly possible, there's no time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Trade Chase, Fuller, Samuel, Gibson, Brissett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tress Is The Way Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CapsSkins said: Trade Chase, Fuller, Samuel, Gibson, Brissett Lol no. People are saying trade all these players!! And have no idea what the cap ramifications are on them. Yes we have 93 million in cap next year, but if we trade a bunch of players that cap numbers is going to be a lot lower than 93 million. C'mon people, use your heads. Chase, Fuller, Samuel, and Brissett if traded would create 20 million in dead cap.. again no thanks. Edited October 31, 2023 by Tress Is The Way 2 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Tress Is The Way said: Lol no. People are saying trade all these players!! And have no idea what the cap ramifications are on them. Yes we have 93 million in cap next year, but if we trade a bunch of players that cap numbers is going to be a lot lower than 93 million. C'mon people, use your heads. I don’t follow. None of those guys are under contract for next season. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tress Is The Way said: Lol no. People are saying trade all these players!! And have no idea what the cap ramifications are on them. Yes we have 93 million in cap next year, but if we trade a bunch of players that cap numbers is going to be a lot lower than 93 million. C'mon people, use your heads. That and you still need to field a roster for this season. The big thing is, the league simply doesn't value our players very much. At least not to the extent that they'd be willing to give up draft picks for many of them. I mean, why should they? We're 3-5 with losses to the Bears and Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tress Is The Way said: Lol no. People are saying trade all these players!! And have no idea what the cap ramifications are on them. Yes we have 93 million in cap next year, but if we trade a bunch of players that cap numbers is going to be a lot lower than 93 million. C'mon people, use your heads. Chase, Fuller, Samuel, Gibson and Brissett are all FAs and are not on the books in 2024. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Finlay said his educated guess was Rivera was pushed (clearly from Harris) to make that trade. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, CapsSkins said: Trade Chase, Fuller, Samuel, Gibson, Brissett 2 minutes ago, Tress Is The Way said: Lol no. People are saying trade all these players!! And have no idea what the cap ramifications are on them. Yes we have 93 million in cap next year, but if we trade a bunch of players that cap numbers is going to be a lot lower than 93 million. C'mon people, use your heads. Chase, Fuller, Samuel, and Brissett if traded would create 20 million in dead cap.. again no thanks. I don't think any one of those players mentioned has much if any cap number after this year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tress Is The Way Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Ball Security said: I don’t follow. None of those guys are under contract for next season. They would be traded in season, meaning their dead cap money would hit next years cap. This isn't the offseason. This is a hypothetical trade pre-june 1st scenario. Some of you don't understand how dead money works and it shows. We are still paying on WJ3 and Landon Collins THIS YEAR in dead cap money. Edited October 31, 2023 by Tress Is The Way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tress Is The Way said: Chase, Fuller, Samuel, and Brissett if traded would create 20 million in dead cap.. again no thanks. All are impending FAs. So if they bring that dead cap, we'd be getting it anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tress Is The Way said: Lol no. People are saying trade all these players!! And have no idea what the cap ramifications are on them. Yes we have 93 million in cap next year, but if we trade a bunch of players that cap numbers is going to be a lot lower than 93 million. C'mon people, use your heads. Chase, Fuller, Samuel, and Brissett if traded would create 20 million in dead cap.. again no thanks. Um, no. Each of those players would bring a net cap savings to Washington for this year, and none of them have any cap ramifications for next year. (Samuel has void years in his contract, so he'd have a dead cap hit in 2024, but it's the same whether he's dealt or not) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tress Is The Way Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Skinsinparadise said: All are impending FAs. So if they bring that dead cap, we'd be getting it anyway. Incorrect. Post june 1st, they wouldn't have as high of an impact in dead cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMeisterGeneral Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Not exactly Mr Current Affairs, but a high second for Montez Sweat? We’ve had Chicago’s pants down 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Cardinals traded Josh Dobbs to the Vikings. So they won't have interest in Brissett. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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