The Consigliere

Anyone have data on how effectively RAS ratings translate going forward? I'm too lazy to dig beyond finding a teeny bit of data from last year (Richardson was great, our injury riddled center was great, packers TE Musgrave was great, our should've been DB Gonzalez was great).

3 of our top 6 picks on day 1 and day 2 were offense including the most valuable draft capital we had. It doesn't really matter that a couple of 5th rounders and a 7th were on the defensive side of the ball as day 3 picks miss the vast majority of the time. We were unlikely to get offensive help there anyway. I'm not happy either, in some ways, I don't love what we did with Philly in the trade, and I don't love the Sinnott pick at 53 or the McCaffrey pick at 100, and I hope they weren't trying to fix a defense I was told a few months ago when I projected a crap '24 season, was actually good in '22, and maybe not the disaster it looked because well, its ron's fault or whatever, but anyway....the reality is, this team is and was a mess at DB, LB, Edge, OL, WR, RB, TE and QB. You can't fix it all in one draft or one offseason. I'm alarmed they didn't do more for the OL either, but nobody was terribly interested in trading down to our slot, and we ended up with an OL in Coleman that's both versatile, and considered by the NFL.Com dude and Brugler to be of the same tier as Paul, Rosegarten, and the guy with the long hard to spell name.... Im very torn, part of me feels like you do, but part of me gets it, and just views what happened as a situation in which he took advantage of the talent that fell to him. My one major gripe is that they didn't turn 5 day 2 picks into any 2025 draft capital at all and we aren't getting compensatories either after the free agency palozza we just had. I'm bummed we didnt spin some golden loom for next year...we should have. Maybe we end up trading some vets for picks before the dealine again, but we don't have many anyone would want.

It's more a "don't get enamored with specific players you think we may draft outside of a top 2-3 pick". Every year people have their favorites on day 3 and day 2 and 95% of the time we don't take them. Better to tier out your favorites by position, by day of the draft, so you're familiar w/the guys we do take, amongst the ones you liked, or ignored/didn't.

Matt Kelley over at player profiler has him basically in his like top 5 or so at RB, and he landed in a great spot.

Unfortunately the one example I heard of that was Kyle pounding the table for Joe Williams, who, needless to say, left no mark on the game whatsoever. I appreciate the idea, though, honestly, I want the GM to collect the information available, hold their meetings and make a choice on draft day, I don't want some position coach trumping the GM w/a pounding the table move at like 1023am on a saturday, either you convinced the GM the previous four months, or you didn't. Otoh, Tom Brady, more or less, was the product of a similar effort with the Patriots brain test, lower level officials advocating hard for him way back in 2000.

Interesting, a bunch of these guys have elite athleticism, Sinnott, the LB, McCaffrey, maybe the DB, can't remember with him, the DT had ridiculous explosion too, sounds like Coleman has it too. A lot of elite athletes.

Nice pull.

Yep, Im hoping we trade down in the 5th and pick up a '25 day 3 pick as a part of it. The work in '25 begins with trade downs now.

Him over Bowers is just crazy pills ridiculous but I appreciate your passion for him and man, if you're right there (which for me is about 1 in 5000 chance), I'll eat heaps of crow and deserve it, that is going out on a limb lol.

He would have been my guy as well and I would've waited on Sinnott till the 3rd, but, judging by those other dudes Brugler and the nfl.com guy (is that jeremiah?), we took a guy from the same tier of OL's as the ones that went late 2nd, so....time will tell, plus Coleman clearly has the added value of being versatile, playing Guard in a pinch too, which at least some of those guys clearly did not, maybe we wanted the versatility since our entire OL is largely garbage beyond Center and a Guard spot and maybe Stromberg if he develops. So having versatile should be a plus, especially for playing time.

Oh I would've 100% taken one with the Sinnott pick. Pass on Sinnott, see if he lasts to 67 (I think he does, the TE run didnt really start until day 3, but maybe I end up being wrong, and Sinnott is not so special that I would've passed on OL's for him), otoh, Coleman was rated higher than Rosengarten by Brugler, if not Suamataia, and Paul, and the dude who does it for nfl.com, forgot his name, had Coleman above Rosengarten and Suamataia.... So? I don't know, maybe there's method to the madness, for two of the top guys doing this, they very much had Coleman in the same tier with either 2 of the guys you mention, or at least 1 in the other case....so? But yeah, I would've pulled the trigger with the Sinnott pick on OL, and waited on him.

The Over Under is 6.5. What are you expecting exactly? Btw, I'm not even being negative, I want us to be in position to continue building out the roster over two years, I don't want the team to get so good so fast that they outpace the talent they can land with good draft capital on day 1 and day 2. If we improve from 4 wins to 5, that's fine, 6 is pushing it, but I can live with it. 7 or 8 wins will make it harder to build out the roster. There's a lot of work to do. Fixing four years worth of stupidity under Ron, and a near decade's worth preceeding him takes time. It's fine. I'm actually quite hopeful long term. I think we got 3 starters and a reserve out of day 1 and day 2, that's actually a solid to good haul, if we can land one more on day 3, it's a very good one, and if the DT becomes what he seems like, and Daniels legit hits, that trumps the rest of it anyway. A QB hit transforms everything, as Houston illustrated in '23, Cincy in '20, Buffalo in '18, KC in '17 etc.

No, nearly all the good ones get cut, at least once.

So maybe he's a "athlete" bet? Wonder why it doesn't show up on tape for the guys evaluating him.

Like anyone he has more misses than hits....this reads like a miss, but time will tell, and to be fair, everyone misses a good 8 to 8.5/10 times on these guys.