JamesMadisonSkins Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Tress Is The Way said: Incorrect. Post june 1st, they wouldn't have as high of an impact in dead cap. You can't post-June 1st "cut" someone who is not on the team ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 So Josh Harris has now traded Montez Sweat and James Harden on the same day...the Devils players should be nervous. You go Josh. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tress Is The Way Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 This is based on 2023, trade pre june 1st, take it for what you will. DEAD SAVINGS Curtis Samuel $10,100,000 $2,400,000 $0 $400,000 $100,000 $0 $0 $13,000,000 $7,200,000 $5,800,000 Kendall Fuller $8,500,000 $3,125,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $11,625,000 $3,125,000 $8,500,000 Jacoby Brissett $3,000,000 $4,500,000 $0 $0 $500,000 $500,000 $3,000,000 $8,500,000 $4,500,000 $4,000,000 Chase Young $1,010,000 $5,674,290 $4,313,219 $0 $0 $0 $5,323,219 $10,997,509 $5,674,290 $5,323,219 While yes, there would be cap savings, that does not mean the dead cap goes away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tress Is The Way said: Incorrect. Post june 1st, they wouldn't have as high of an impact in dead cap. This is just wrong. Don't want to keep wasting time on it, but you just don't understand how this works and are incorrect about it. Edited October 31, 2023 by Rufus T Firefly 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Tress Is The Way said: This is based on 2023, trade pre june 1st, take it for what you will. DEAD SAVINGS Curtis Samuel $10,100,000 $2,400,000 $0 $400,000 $100,000 $0 $0 $13,000,000 $7,200,000 $5,800,000 Kendall Fuller $8,500,000 $3,125,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $11,625,000 $3,125,000 $8,500,000 Jacoby Brissett $3,000,000 $4,500,000 $0 $0 $500,000 $500,000 $3,000,000 $8,500,000 $4,500,000 $4,000,000 Chase Young $1,010,000 $5,674,290 $4,313,219 $0 $0 $0 $5,323,219 $10,997,509 $5,674,290 $5,323,219 While yes, there would be cap savings, that does not mean the dead cap goes away... Tress, this is not the Way. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 44 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, BrentMeisterGeneral said: Not exactly Mr Current Affairs, but a high second for Montez Sweat? We’ve had Chicago’s pants down 😂 Wonder who what other team(s) were also interested in order to run the price up to a second? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnySideUp Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I just posted the full article in the "Welcome New Owner Josh Harris" thread. >>Montez Sweat trade says more about Josh Harris' vision than it does Ron Rivera's https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/montez-sweat-trade-says-more-about-josh-harris-vision-than-it-does-ron-riveras/3457894/ >>...What does seem clear is that Harris is now acting on his instinct of building a championship team as he promised at his introductory press conference when he bought the team. Trading away Sweat may sting a bit, he's been a good player and largely durable, but he also only had nine games remaining on his contract. Even with Sweat, the Commanders have the 31st-ranked defense in points allowed through eight games. There are only 32 teams, so his departure can't make that much of a difference in the remaining nine contests. But that's the point - this isn't about the remaining nine games. This is about the future. A future with Harris at the helm, not Snyder, and a future that may finally be looking bright.<< 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Dobbs to Minnesota. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, Tress Is The Way said: Lol no. People are saying trade all these players!! And have no idea what the cap ramifications are on them. Yes we have 93 million in cap next year, but if we trade a bunch of players that cap numbers is going to be a lot lower than 93 million. C'mon people, use your heads. Chase, Fuller, Samuel, and Brissett if traded would create 20 million in dead cap.. again no thanks. Here's Chase: Fuller: Samuel (whose void year makes the dead cap baked in trade or not): And Brissett: And for completeness' sake, here's Gibson: Now that you've had a chance to take all that in, kindly do the needful: 2 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Tress Is The Way said: Incorrect. Post june 1st, they wouldn't have as high of an impact in dead cap. Samuel has two void contract years next year and the year after. Is there a way around that? I thought they are stuck with that. Brissett has nothing on the books for 2024. So all it means for him unless am missing something is you have to pay him for this season, which you got to do anyway. Unless am missing something ditto Chase. Yes you have to pay his salary if you trade him. that's how it typically works. But I don't see anything bleeding into 2024. Edited October 31, 2023 by Skinsinparadise 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Cardinals traded Josh Dobbs to the Vikings. So they won't have interest in Brissett. BTW, I don't know if anyone caught Scheffer last night at halftime, but he was asked about some trade scenarios and it seemed like he was completely out of the loop, as per things that were being rumored. For example, he totally scoffed at the idea of Minnesota being interested in QBs, while there was buzz about them and both Dobbs and Winston. Which is wrong obviously because of what was talked about as well as what ultimately happened, but was also weird because he seemed to think Jaren Hall and Nic Mullens were such compelling reasons to not consider acquiring somebody. It was just weird coming from someone who was always considered the ultimate insider. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Right, let’s show some real forward thinking. Get 2 or 3 more players shipped out Harris. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Trading Brissett if they do it would add to the Harris is pushing this narrative because according to Keim they were really reluctant to do it unless they got a surprise big offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said: I definitely don’t mind holding onto Brissett for the rest of the year if that is the going rate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redd Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Either resign Young or trade him. With Sweat gone I prefer we resign Chase…if he wants to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Trade brissett, he's jag b/u, and take a third or a fourth and a fifth for young. He's got head issues. Move on. 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Ball Security said: I definitely don’t mind holding onto Brissett for the rest of the year if that is the going rate. I'd take a 6th for him if that's all we can get. When is the last time we had a loaded draft from the jump? I don't mean after trading down on draft day but before draft day even starts? Last time that I can recall was the first draft Dan inherited from Casserly. Lets Eagles style load up on picks. Heck even late rounders. Brissett probably isn't back next season. Garafolo just now saying they are fielding calls for Chase but they haven't gotten what they want yet as to the offers. Edited October 31, 2023 by Skinsinparadise 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Asking for a day 2 pick for Brissett seems overly aggressive. Nice starting point but a 4th or 5th would do me. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Est.1974 said: Asking for a day 2 pick for Brissett seems overly aggressive. Nice starting point but a 4th or 5th would do me. Agreed. We can get some decent contributors in those rounds. Hope it's just posturing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I'm all about Josh Harris today, I'm so glad he went with his instincts and didn't sit around wasting opportunity. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I uh... I think you got him... Way beyond penalty for piling on at this point. League is sending out envelopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I don't see Chase resigning after the declined his 5th year option among other things. That means if you don't trade him, you tag him for a year If he is disgruntled, what can be expected from him, I mean he already doesn't play till the whistle a lot. I still think they screwed up not extending Sweat before the season began. (Yes I think they did well with the trade but that isn't the point) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: I'd take a 6th for him if that's all we can get. When is the last time we had a loaded draft from the jump? I don't mean after trading down on draft day but before dract day even starts? Last time that I can recall was the first draft Dan inherited from Casserly. Lets Eagles style load up on picks. Heck even late rounders. Brissett probably isn't back next season. Garafolo just now saying they are fielding calls for Chase but they haven't gotten what they want yet as to the offers. I'd probably take a 6, but I can understand not doing that. A 5 would be hard to turn down for me. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Rufus T Firefly said: I'd probably take a 6, but I can understand not doing that. A 5 would be hard to turn down for me. I would really like a 4th. They're bringing him in expecting him to start for several games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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