The 12th Commandment Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: I think it's been since the Newt Era. The internet just made it all more noticeable. And smart phones even more so. Clinton was doing what they claimed to want to do and very successfully. Only course left for that piece of scummy detritus was to just try and block anything and everything and start on the personal life stuff that had mostly been off limits till then. Now it's de rigueur. Fox News finding their stride about that same time was an important part too. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 40 minutes ago, tshile said: I know that makes the people that thought she was such a great candidate feel better about the loss, but I don’t agree with that at all. Yeah that’s one argument I see a lot. another is the Regan era was really the start of it. 21 minutes ago, The 12th Commandment said: Clinton was doing what they claimed to want to do and very successfully. Only course left for that piece of scummy detritus was to just try and block anything and everything and start on the personal life stuff that had mostly been off limits till then. Now it's de rigueur. Fox News finding their stride about that same time was an important part too. I thought we were talking about people in Congree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: Maybe it depends on the state, but I thought you could register at 17 if you turned 18 by election day. I thought so too, but her mom, dad, weren't on top of it. I didn't bring it up to her except on her birthday and before I checked the website for the last day to register. It didn't say one could register early before the cutoff day and it was a moot point by then. She definitely can vote next year and I will be on her to register even if I have to take her myself at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 12th Commandment Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheGreatBuzz said: I thought we were talking about people in Congree. Like Newt right? That's who I was talking about if it wasn't clear. Edited October 23, 2023 by The 12th Commandment 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, tshile said: It’s nice to see an older person have the same view. Today we get marshmallows in our cocoa at the home.🥸 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jumbo said: Today we get marshmallows in our cocoa at the home.🥸 Don’t forget to take your Jardiance. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 hours ago, LadySkinsFan said: she'd be serving her second term, and the younger generation would be poised to run the country in the the future. I'm gonna disagree with you on these 2 points, and here's why: 1. It's pretty damn difficult for one party to hold on to the White House for 12 years, let alone 16. You can argue that Hillary should've been Obama pt 3 and that Gore should've been Clinton pt 3, but you have to go back to Bush Sr in 1988 as Reagan pt 3 to find a party holding the WH for 3 consecutive terms. Then you have to go all the way back to FDR/Truman back in the 30s/40s to find one party keeping the WH for more than 2 terms, and the last one to keep it for more than 3. 2. Qualified or not, Hillary's negatives were already very high from the get-go, because Republicans have hated her and been demonizing her since 92 (at least, I was a child then so I don't know if it was earlier or not). 20+ years of bad press before she was even sworn in would not have done her any favors once she actually took office, and the already insanely high criticisms would've somehow increased. And I honestly believe that if Trump loses in '16 the Republicans are actually able to move on from him. They probably even keep some of his new voter base without him just by constantly attacking Hillary. 4+ years of "Benghazi" and "Buttery Males" and every damn Clinton Conspiracy they've ever concocted would've worn enough people down by 2020 that the Republicans running literally anyone that isn't Trump and they probably win, and that's WITHOUT taking Covid into consideration. Now in 2020 the roles are reversed and the Republicans can really go all in on every single gov't action taken during Covid being tyranny and whatever and it probably sticks (again, see almost 30 years of attacks on her by that point). I don't know who the Reps run in 2020, but if it's a "Traditional" Conservative that doesn't have Trump's baggage, they win. Remember, despite everything Trump did, he didn't really lose by 8 million votes or however much more Biden got, he lost by the ~55,000 it would've taken to flip 4 swing states to him, and then Warnock and Ossof probably lose their Senate races too because there's no "Big Lie" to convince enough Trumpers to stay home to give them the narrow edge they needed to win. 3. I'd be more convinced that your alt-universe Dems would've allowed more power to younger voters if I saw any of that in our reality. If Steny Hoyer (my former rep) wasn't still in power like he has been since I was a kid. If Nancy hadn't just "stepped aside" but had actually stepped down and let somebody younger take her safe seat. Ditto Feinstein. And Schumer. And any of these fossils (on both sides, drink!) that cling to office until their dying breath like Mitch will, like Feinstein did. Like Teddy Kennedy did. Like Strom did. Etc. I have nothing against Hakeem Jeffries, but if a 53 year old is considered the younger generation....that's not exactly as earth shaking to those of us under 40 as it is to those who have been eligible for SS for over a decade. It's an improvement, and a much needed step in the right direction, and I'm not saying we have to have a 27 year old Speaker of the House, but it doesn't give me an "Alt-universe Dems who won in 2016 would keep winning in 2020 and listen to the younger generation that our-universe Dems seem to actively despise for daring question their authoritah" vibes I get from the current party. I'm not disagreeing that the country wouldn't be much better off from 4 years of Hillary, even if she loses in 2020, then we are now. The SC alone from RBG and Scalia, even if Kennedy doesn't retire, is a huge difference. But I just don't see Hillary surviving 4 years of a Republican congress AND Covid to somehow win 2020 and give the Dems 4 straight wins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 8 hours ago, Cooked Crack said: 8 hours ago, Cooked Crack said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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China Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 DNC to project ‘GOP Clown Show’ display near Capitol on Monday night The Democratic National Committee (DNC) will project a display near the U.S. Capitol on Monday night to bash House Republicans for going 20 days without a Speaker of the House. The graphic will project on the National Gallery of Art East Building at 8 p.m. and aims to call out “the chaotic House Republicans for dragging on their clown show instead of delivering for the American people,” the DNC first told The Hill. You can see the video that will be projected here: Click on the link for the full article 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 hours ago, China said: DNC to project ‘GOP Clown Show’ display near Capitol on Monday night The Democratic National Committee (DNC) will project a display near the U.S. Capitol on Monday night to bash House Republicans for going 20 days without a Speaker of the House. The graphic will project on the National Gallery of Art East Building at 8 p.m. and aims to call out “the chaotic House Republicans for dragging on their clown show instead of delivering for the American people,” the DNC first told The Hill. You can see the video that will be projected here: Click on the link for the full article Not feelin' it, to be honest... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Interesting.. Emmer is probably the best of these worst..but he's still an election denier. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: Interesting.. Emmer is probably the best of these worst..but he's still an election denier. Nice source you got there, Nicholas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Emmer is the nominee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PleaseBlitz Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 With Emmer the nominee, the optimist part of my brain (which regularly receives savage beatings from the pragmatic and cynical parts of my brain) wants to believe that Emmer wants to be Speaker so bad he may be willing to cut a limited deal with Dems to get support from some of them. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 20 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said: I think it's been since the Newt Era. The internet just made it all more noticeable. And smart phones even more so. earlier.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_A****er 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, mcsluggo said: earlier.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_A****er its really appropriate that the ****, Lee A****er's name is censored .... but really his name should've been Lee Douchewater 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I wish his name was pronounced A-****-er 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, PleaseBlitz said: With Emmer the nominee, the optimist part of my brain (which regularly receives savage beatings from the pragmatic and cynical parts of my brain) wants to believe that Emmer wants to be Speaker so bad he may be willing to cut a limited deal with Dems to get support from some of them. My experience, as well as that of Aristotle, Mark Twain, and Groucho Marx, is the cynic and pragmatist are more on point more often than the optimist. Sorry Mr. Rogers and Jesus. 👹 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, Jumbo said: My experience, as well as that of Aristotle, Mark Twain, and Groucho Marx, is the cynic and pragmatist are more on point more often than the optimist. Sorry Mr. Rogers and Jesus. 👹 jesus would like a word with you..... 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Emmer still over 20 votes short and now Trump blasts him as a RINO. Fun times! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Trump just torpedoed the **** out of Emmer. This is great. Hahahha 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 10 hours ago, Califan007 The Constipated said: Not feelin' it, to be honest... I think it would be better with clowns getting in and out of a clown car, and if it was accompanied by circus music. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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