Mrshadow008 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Definitely, I just think the "4 Dlinemen is bad cap" narrative is flawed. Were poised to be able to keep them all together. This season, if they dominate like they should, I think they stay together. You're also right, that this is essentially a contract year for Sweat and we're in position to pay him in a way that keeps it open to resign Chase when needed, so it's not a stretch at all. Ill be curious to see the full structure of Terrys contract. If this is anywhere close to accurate with his cap hits and the void years which the team does like to use we could be in really good cap situation next off season. I know people were upset we didnt do more in FA like some other teams did. I do think they really like the roster but I also think if we had say traded for Russ we wouldve seen team do more. With Wentz and being in wait and see mode it seems if we make the playoffs this year next year is the year I could see them spending some money to try and push them over the top. If this is close to accurate and they move some of Carsons money around they could have a ton of cap next offseason even if you extend Sweat 9 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Standig and Sheehan just talked about this again. Standig thinks Payne will be the odd man out, doesn't think its smart from what he heard to pay 4 D lineman but he doesn't rule it out. He doubled down that they put out feelers in the off season to trade Payne He said you can pick up cues from Rivera's own rhetoric where he will say he doesn't want to let players go and when cued up about Payne, Rivera doesn't say that about Payne. I think the play of Mathis will probably have a lot to do with what they decide to do about Payne next offseason as well. If Mathis plays well and looks like he can be an adequate replacement without having to spend significant draft capital in the next draft (1st or 2nd rounder) on another DL then yeah I agree they definitely let him walk. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said: Definitely expected the TE to go out on a route and not aggressively chip first. Kerrigans stride and arms say he was surprised. Speaking of Kerrigan, did he retire or is he trying for one more year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Big John Bates is an absolute stud. I'm really excited to see the jump this year. If he can be a 500 yard guy, redzone target and continue to be one of the better inline blocking TEs, it's the kind of role player that puts an offense well over the top. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, Always A Commander Never A Captain said: Speaking of Kerrigan, did he retire or is he trying for one more year? Still a FA as of right now. Doubt he plays any more, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Last I heard, Kerrigan bought a home in the area and has been frequenting the LoCo farmers markets. I assume he's done and perhaps looking for a non-playing gig in the area. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Last I heard, Kerrigan bought a home in the area and has been frequenting the LoCo farmers markets. I assume he's done and perhaps looking for a non-playing gig in the area. When he officially retires, I hope the team gives him a 1 day contract to retire where he got drafted. Either that or have a halftime where they invite him out and honor him, like the nats did with Zimmerman. He deserves it 6 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraCommander Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: When he officially retires, I hope the team gives him a 1 day contract to retire where he got drafted. Either that or have a halftime where they invite him out and honor him, like the nats did with Zimmerman. He deserves it They should've showed him love last year when he came back to town. They need to make amends imo. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: When he officially retires, I hope the team gives him a 1 day contract to retire where he got drafted. Either that or have a halftime where they invite him out and honor him, like the nats did with Zimmerman. He deserves it I think that's a given to happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, CobraCommander said: They should've showed him love last year when he came back to town. They need to make amends imo. Does that happen in the NFL though? I feel like it happens more in baseball and hockey but never (or rarely) in the NFL, and especially not if the player is on a division rivals team. I hope (and I doubt they are) this team is smart enough to give him the moment he deserves when he officially retires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraCommander Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Does that happen in the NFL though? I feel like it happens more in baseball and hockey but never (or rarely) in the NFL, and especially not if the player is on a division rivals team. I hope (and I doubt they are) this team is smart enough to give him the moment he deserves when he officially retires. I don't know but if they really want to have the fans feel like they are a part of the team acknowledging someone that gave so much for the franchise seems wise to me. Break the mold. If they had showed him on the jumbotron pre-game or whatever I'm sure the fans would've cheered and both he and the fans would've felt like the team cared. Edited June 30, 2022 by CobraCommander 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rook Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: I hope (and I doubt they are) this team is smart enough to give him the moment he deserves when he officially retires. If they do, there is no way they don’t hose it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 @The Rook unfortunately that is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinky Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 3 hours ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: I think that's a given to happen. a given? they gave us port-a-potties for ST as the highlight moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franklin60 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Still a FA as of right now. Doubt he plays any more, though He really didn’t play last year either. I saw him in uniform about eighteen times though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Voice_of_Reason Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Does that happen in the NFL though? I feel like it happens more in baseball and hockey but never (or rarely) in the NFL, and especially not if the player is on a division rivals team. I hope (and I doubt they are) this team is smart enough to give him the moment he deserves when he officially retires. We signed a LB named Washington from Indy back in the 2000’s, and I was at the 2005 or 6 game in Indy and they had a thank you video for him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: We signed a LB named Washington from Indy back in the 2000’s, and I was at the 2005 or 6 game in Indy and they had a thank you video for him. Oh yeah Marcus Washington. well, colts/redskins weren’t division rivals, and the eagles/WFT are, maybe that played a part in it? Whatever the reason, Again i hope they have something planned for when he officially retires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Kerrigan should have retired a red whatever last year, instead of embarrassing himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Koolblue13 said: Kerrigan should have retired a red whatever last year, instead of embarrassing himself. He was chasing 100 career sacks (or that's my guess). Hard to blame someone for going for a milestone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Always A Commander Never A Captain said: He was chasing 100 career sacks (or that's my guess). Hard to blame someone for going for a milestone. I bet, but he was obviously spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 8 hours ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Oh yeah Marcus Washington. well, colts/redskins weren’t division rivals, and the eagles/WFT are, maybe that played a part in it? Whatever the reason, Again i hope they have something planned for when he officially retires Marcus Washington is one of the best FA signings of the Snyder era 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 5 hours ago, method man said: Marcus Washington is one of the best FA signings of the Snyder era There have been a few good ones mixed in with all the bad. Cornelius Griffin, Marcus Washington, Pierre Garcon, London Fletcher, and DJax are the ones which come to mind. I'm sure there are a few others, especially some good role players from 2005-2007. The issue is the ratio hasn't been good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: There have been a few good ones mixed in with all the bad. Cornelius Griffin, Marcus Washington, Pierre Garcon, London Fletcher, and DJax are the ones which come to mind. I'm sure there are a few others, especially some good role players from 2005-2007. The issue is the ratio hasn't been good. And that ratio was heavily offset by cost. It's like the more we pay, the worse they were. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraCommander Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: And that ratio was heavily offset by cost. It's like the more we pay, the worse they were. I'm not sure that's necessarily true but I refuse to do the research. We have been bottom feeders in the NFC east for the entire Dan Snyder era regardless of whether he doles out big contracts to guys like Albert Haynsworth or not. Have we made a big splash like that since? I feel like that may have actually humbled him and the last ten years have been very austere when it comes to free agency outside a couple headscratchers. He seems to have moved his focus to reaching in the draft in the last decade for questionable talent, especially at the QB position. https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/here-are-biggest-free-agent-contracts-nfl-history We're not even on this list but two of our division rivals and tow of our former players are. 1. Kirk Cousins, Minnesota Vikings, 2018: Three years, $84M ($28M AAV) T-2. Tom Brady Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2020: Two years, $50M ($25M AAV) T-2. Philip Rivers, Indianapolis Colts, 2020: One year, $25M 4. Trent Williams, San Francisco 49ers, 2021: Six years, $138.06M ($23.01M AAV) 5. Nick Foles, Jacksonville Jaguars, 2019: Four years, $88M ($22M AAV) 6. Teddy Bridgewater, Carolina Panthers, 2020: Three years, $63M ($21M AAV) T-7. Amari Cooper, Dallas Cowboys: 2020: Five years, $100M ($20M AAV) T-7. Sam Bradford, Arizona Cardinals, 2018: One year, $20M 9. Peyton Manning, Denver Broncos, 2012: Five years, $96M ($19.2M AAV) 10. Ndamukong Suh, Miami Dolphins, 2015: Six years, $114.38M ($19.06M AAV) T-11. Trey Flowers, Detroit Lions, 2019: Five years, $90M ($18M AAV) T-11. Brock Osweiler, Houston Texans, 2016: Four years, $72M ($18M AAV) T-11. Kenny Golladay, New York Giants, 2021: Four years, $72M ($18M AAV) T-11. Case Keenum, Denver Broncos, 2018: Two years, $36M ($18M AAV) T-15. Olivier Vernon, New York Giants, 2016: Five years, $85M ($17M AAV) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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