zCommander Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, CobraCommander said: I'm convinced it's because Rivera doesn't want to name a 3rd starting QB. I feel like he alluded to it earlier in the season. So promoting a 3rd stringer looks bad and therefore will bring him up after Taylor starts? Who cares. I know I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, KDawg said: I'd rather see him in that environment. Rookie or not, anyone with a future takes that assignment in stride and handles it. It's about poise, composure, executing the best you can in the face of adversity. The worst part about this to me is that your taking away his practice time w/ the 1s. All week he should be getting as many reps as he can handle before his first game. Running plays and getting timing w/ the guys he will be throwing to on sunday. Now he is gonna be splitting reps, giving him even a higher hill to climb. Your already throwing him out there vs a stacked D w/ something to play for, at least let him prepare for it to the best of his ability Does Ron drink? What leads a man to this rationale? Its madness. Edited January 4, 2023 by FootballZombie 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraCommander Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, zCommander said: So promoting a 3rd stringer looks bad and therefore will bring him up after Taylor starts? Who cares. I know I don't. I think Rivera does. I certainly don't and think it's dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPinstripe Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Yeah, what exactly does putting in Taylor do for this team when we are eliminated? So stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, CobraCommander said: I think Rivera does. I certainly don't and think it's dumb. Sorry it wasn't directed towards you. But yeah it is really stupid. The season is over and now you are in evaluation mode. Ron is the players coach. He also needs to be a leader with balls too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Adding to what SIP posted about Keim's podcast: it was interesting what he said about the disconnect between what Ron says he wants/expects from the offense, versus what Norv's son is calling from the booth, including personnel packages during certain types of plays. Keim also hit on a recurring theme from Turner: predictability based on formations. Excellent podcast as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinswillwin06 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) I don't get this. Purdy can start and win games non stop but Howell is somehow "not ready" to start a meaningless game? That's absurd to me. Edited January 4, 2023 by skinswillwin06 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockluc Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 So we’re going to put Heinicke in, wait till we’re down by 3 td’s and the throw Howell out there with the Dallas defense having their ears pinned back and not having to respect the run at all. Good god, how dumb can Ron be…please get this guy the F out of town somehow this offseason. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Last Friday, Commanders quarterbacks coach Ken Zampese raved about the progress Howell has made throughout the season. "He’s done a great job. I’m really excited to see him," Zampese. "He has so much pride and has worked so hard. You can see the progress that he has made. I can when we are on the field all the time or in the meetings all the time. I really like that he is going where he is going.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, actorguy1 said: 10. As far as Commanders name, he talked about Guardians (he grew up in Cleveland). At least with Guardians their uniform looked similar and that last season they exceeded expectations and made the playoffs. If something similar happened here it would have been an easier transition. My friend in Arizona called me up to give me **** about Major Tuddy, of course its stupid. However, it wouldn't have mattered if we had won the game or made it into the playoffs. Remember when gritty came out? Remember how people looked at him? Now he's a national ****ing treasure! I don't know how Rivera got the "Riverboat Ron" title, this is the most scared, indecisive coach I think we've ever had. The only time he "gambles" is when its the completely wrong decision or its the obviously right decision, but made way too late. Every decision he makes is about making the safest choice possible (in his mind) until its time to make a bad decision. This is his last "no decision" of the season, splitting the game between TH and Howell. Another no balls move from our HC. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCommiesGo Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 That is an odd way to end the year. I don't understand the thought process that gets you to this, unless they believe they are going to be down big by halftime and Dallas pulls players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veteranskinsfan Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Ron needs to hit the road. Let Howell start the game and if he gets injured then let Heinke take over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJHJR86 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Keim brought up Brissette as an option if Heinicke goes somewhere else. Would he really be that much of an improvement? 12 total touchdowns, 9 total turnovers, 63.8% completion, 89.7 passer rating, 7.19 AY/A: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrisJa00.htm#63-71-sum:stats 13 total touchdowns, 11 total turnovers, 62.2% completion, 89.6 passer rating, 7.06 AY/A: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HeinTa00.htm?utm_medium=linker&utm_source=www.profootballrumors.com&utm_campaign=2023-01-04_pfr#25-33-sum:stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said: Keim brought up Brissette as an option if Heinicke goes somewhere else. Would he really be that much of an improvement? 12 total touchdowns, 9 total turnovers, 63.8% completion, 89.7 passer rating, 7.19 AY/A: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrisJa00.htm#63-71-sum:stats 13 total touchdowns, 11 total turnovers, 62.2% completion, 89.6 passer rating, 7.06 AY/A: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HeinTa00.htm?utm_medium=linker&utm_source=www.profootballrumors.com&utm_campaign=2023-01-04_pfr#25-33-sum:stats Nope. If we're going low to mid tier fishing, it's Mayfield or bust. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, HigSkin said: Hopefully Howell doesn't see it that way, either. Oh, and its awful for the organization, too. Heinicke gets devoured, Howell comes in against the backups and does well... we go into next season with him as our best option because he looked great and then gets destroyed when the competition is for real. It's just stupid. Either do it or don't. Awful decision. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 See yall next year. Was only gonna watch the game if Howell was starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar1156 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I'd rather go with Baker over Brissett. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zim489 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Simmsy said: I don't know how Rivera got the "Riverboat Ron" title, this is the most scared, indecisive coach I think we've ever had. The only time he "gambles" is when its the completely wrong decision or its the obviously right decision, but made way too late. Every decision he makes is about making the safest choice possible (in his mind) until its time to make a bad decision. This is his last "no decision" of the season, splitting the game between TH and Howell. Another no balls move from our HC. Back in yesteryear before analytics he would often "gamble" more than other coaches. As we have grown into the analytical age hes doing it the same but has shown to do it in the worst possible times while being often in quadrant of what's called "full of fear" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Dunderhead Rivera going to start Heinicke now in a meaningless game. This goes to show that Rivera is all about ego and not logic. Guy doesn't have a clue and needs to go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said: Granted I am biased because I like Carr, too. But it reassures me that he knows this system, likes what he sees from Carr and likes him even more because his brother likes him. One of the things he mentions fitting plays to the defense and I presume that involves readjusting protections, which Logan Paulsen (and Jay) pointed out in a game that Taylor and this offense struggled with at least in the context of the matchups versus the Giants. I guess the ultimate question boils down to money $$$. Carr will likely fetch a top 5-10 QB deal, which puts him at around $35-40MM per year. Is that even feasible for this team? I think I'd like to know the status of the staff, system, oline etc before I weigh in on the QB situation. I do like Carr, but the thought of trying another high priced free agent or trade type deal seems insane to me, but I guess what are the alternatives... Beggars cant be too picky 😩 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysBeRedskins2Me Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Panninho said: That makes no sense at all It really doesn't make any sense. At this point, I'd rather jump off of an actual riverboat than have Riverboat Ron as our head coach 😢😭😡 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Maybe Zampese can lure Baker. That is the only reason I'd keep him around. Dude has done nothing for my QBs so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zim489 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, FootballZombie said: Maybe Zampese can lure Baker. That is the only reason I'd keep him around. Dude has done nothing for my QBs so far. Cant shine **** 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysBeRedskins2Me Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I was reading about this on a different website earlier and it mentioned " after a rocky season, Howell fell to the 5th round. " Huh? That's considered a rocky season? I don't have his stats in front of me right now but I thought Howell performed well his entire time at UNC.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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