All things defense

[Leonard Washington]

Our DBs have been outrun by wideouts all season. 
 

Can we steal that play? 

[RandyHolt]

Its so odd. Presnap we never do simulated pressure to create chaos. Yet still our DBs look confused in a static approach while WRs are wide open. Deep. 

 

I could see simulated pressure leading to defensive confusion scrambling back to get into their zone. We create our own chaos when in our static base D. You almost can't make this stuff up.

Edited December 10, 2023 by RandyHolt

[Ball Security]

Jamin Davis to IR. They need to decide whether or not to exercise his fifth year option.

[philibusters]

32 minutes ago, Ball Security said:

Jamin Davis to IR. They need to decide whether or not to exercise his fifth year option.

 

I would think that there is little chance they exercise it.  Because LB's include some edge rushers, things like the franchise tag and fifth year option are higher than you would expect.

[Est.1974]

Shelve a couple more as well. 

[Ball Security]

27 minutes ago, philibusters said:

 

I would think that there is little chance they exercise it.  Because LB's include some edge rushers, things like the franchise tag and fifth year option are higher than you would expect.

It’s estimated between 13-14M.

 

https://overthecap.com/fifth-year-option-projections

[DWinzit]

Just now, Ball Security said:

It’s estimated between 13-14M.

 

https://overthecap.com/fifth-year-option-projections

Ouch. I would have loved to have seen him used on blitzes a lot more...like he should have been doing

[Voice_of_Reason]

30 minutes ago, philibusters said:

 

I would think that there is little chance they exercise it.  Because LB's include some edge rushers, things like the franchise tag and fifth year option are higher than you would expect.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, his legal troubles are not fully behind him yet.  The judge rejected the plea deal, and then rejected it again, and they were getting together after the season if I remember correctly.  

 

Also, he's not that good.

[JSSkinz]

What was Curl thinking on this play?

 

 

[Chris 44]

2 hours ago, JSSkinz said:

What was Curl thinking on this play?

 

 

We break Records every single week.

[Est.1974]

2 hours ago, JSSkinz said:

What was Curl thinking on this play?

 

 

Something like, I can’t be arsed running with him?

[Leonard Washington]

8 hours ago, JSSkinz said:

What was Curl thinking on this play?

 

“Fiddlesticks!”

“I guessed wrong”

”I may need to stop fantasizing about my next contract and start wondering if I’m going to be in the league.” 

[philibusters]

Did we ever figure out if the blown coverage was Curl or St. Juste?  If it was a standard coverage it would have been on Curl, if it was an inverted coverage it would have been on St. Juste.

[method man]

Anyone know how Forbes graded out yday? Defense played a lot better when he came in for St Juste. I hope BSJ is done for the season so we can see 100% snap counts for Forbes the next couple weeks

[Skinsinparadise]

Listening to Logan Paulsen who watched the All 22, loves Quan Martin.  He thinks he's coming on strong as the season progresses.  All over the field, plays with passion.

[Silvernon]

16 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Listening to Logan Paulsen who watched the All 22, loves Quan Martin.  He thinks he's coming on strong as the season progresses.  All over the field, plays with passion.

Did he say whether he is a FS?

I haven't watched the last couple of games.

[RandyHolt]

Quan looks lost to me. Slightly less than Forbes. Paulsen is probably paid to say nice things. Quan may be playing better but we don't even know what position he plays. Seems like he is playing corner more often than not but can't recall more than a 2-3 nice plays from him. This entire year. Its gotta be the scheme but after watching the games will the new regime even dig thru the old schemes play calls to find fault, or just say F it and cut him for not showing nearly enough for his draft slot. He failed to meet reasonable expectations by wide margin IMO.

 

Will we be the first defense to surrender 6000 yards? Or soonest...

Edited December 28, 2023 by RandyHolt

[Conn]

Teams don’t just cut 2nd round picks going into the second year of their rookie contracts, absent off-field issues. That’s absurd, he’ll get a look. The suggestion that a new regime doing a totally normal and expected internal scouting inventory wouldn’t watch this year’s tape, no matter how bad the scheme and playcalling were, is funny. Come on. 

[Skinsinparadise]

Rewatching the games both Logan Paulsen and Keim seem high on Quan Martin and suggest right now he's the best player from that draft.

On 12/27/2023 at 4:49 PM, Silvernon said:

Did he say whether he is a FS?

I haven't watched the last couple of games.

 

sorry just catching this.  Nope.  I know he's played nickle.  Seen some blitzes.  PFF lists him based on their grading as a nickle CB.

[The Rook]

3 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Rewatching the games both Logan Paulsen and Keim seem high on Quan Martin and suggest right now he's the best player from that draft.

 

That's good to hear.  However, as we know, the bar is not very high for that draft.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Rook

[Skinsinparadise]

4 hours ago, The Rook said:

 

That's good to hear.  However, as we know, the bar is not very high for that draft.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Rook

 

I hear you on that but their take wasn't the best of a bad lot.  They think he's emerging.  I admit i am a bit biased since he was a dude I liked before that draft.

[method man]

6 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Rewatching the games both Logan Paulsen and Keim seem high on Quan Martin and suggest right now he's the best player from that draft.

 

sorry just catching this.  Nope.  I know he's played nickle.  Seen some blitzes.  PFF lists him based on their grading as a nickle CB.

 

I heard that from Keim as well. Keim was pointing out that Quan has not made highlight type of plays so far. I think that with his freakish athleticism and physicality, it will come in a better scheme with a more creative DC

[Renegade7]

On 12/11/2023 at 3:49 PM, Ball Security said:

Jamin Davis to IR. They need to decide whether or not to exercise his fifth year option.

 

That's two first round picks for nothin...

[Skinsinparadise]

Yep. Logan Paulsen has talked about this some suggesting yes the LB isn't as important as it once was but when you watch teams like SF with elite LBs you can see how it changes a defense.

 

 

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Edited January 3 by Skinsinparadise

[Going Commando]

13 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

I hear you on that but their take wasn't the best of a bad lot.  They think he's emerging.  I admit i am a bit biased since he was a dude I liked before that draft.

Rodriguez feels like our best player from that draft, but I think Quan will end up being good too.  I've still got hope for Forbes too, and think he has a chance to bounce back with better coaching and scheming.

 

I'm also not giving up on Daniels yet either.  He was a late round favorite of mine even though I think we drafted him too early.  I like him better than Paul and Charles and I'm kind of eyeballing him for the LG job somewhere down the road when he gets strong enough to start.  I think he also has some swing tackle potential because of his speed.

 

Speaking of Paul, he was a disaster at guard, and I'm wondering why we don't try him at his natural RT position?  That's where I always felt he was best suited.