What is the "It Factor?"

[ThomasRoane]

This is an obvious demonstration of the it factor.

 

 

 

[Thinking Skins]

8 minutes ago, TK said:

Me neither. 

 

Call me crazy because it's a small sample size, but the one name I keep coming back to, to compare his style to is Favre. 

I was looking for shorter guys.  I like the Trent and the Theismann comparisons. 

[Malapropismic Depository]

6 minutes ago, Thinking Skins said:

I was looking for shorter guys.  I like the Trent and the Theismann comparisons. 

 

 

Definitely Theismann, if you're looking at overall similarities.

I don't recall Trent Green being this mobile, elusive, etc.

But, arm strength aside, and looking strictly at how he moves around, I can definitely see the Favre comparison (in some aspects)

Edited September 19, 2021 by Malapropismic Depository

[zCommander]

1 hour ago, TK said:

Me neither. 

 

Call me crazy because it's a small sample size, but the one name I keep coming back to, to compare his style to is Favre. 

 

Well he did say he grew up watching and idolizing Favre so yeah I can see that. 

[kingdaddy]

1 hour ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

I believe the "IT Factor" is basically Intangibles, as opposed to Tangibles.

You can almost see how the word "IT" came from the word "Intangibles"

 

The "It" factor is a player who makes plays when it counts. Period. When you know a player has the "it" factor just expect that the play is going to be made whether it be by land, air or sometimes just flat out luck. Guys with the "it" factor almost always end up on the good side of the outcome. 

That's my definition of the "it" factor. 

[TK]

29 minutes ago, zskins said:

 

Well he did say he grew up watching and idolizing Favre so yeah I can see that. 

4 sure  

[kingdaddy]

1 minute ago, TK said:

4 sure  

Doesn't it make you wonder just how good TH could be with experience, game planning and full support of the team and management?

[Thinking Skins]

11 minutes ago, kingdaddy said:

The "It" factor is a player who makes plays when it counts. Period. When you know a player has the "it" factor just expect that the play is going to be made whether it be by land, air or sometimes just flat out luck. Guys with the "it" factor almost always end up on the good side of the outcome. 

That's my definition of the "it" factor. 

It's funny because this game reminded me of the Cousins London game, and it almost had the exact same result, a missed Hopkins FG for the win.  Us not winning that game has hurt my view of Cousins but it shouldn't because he did everything right. Hopkins made this kick (after missing) but I wonder if I would think differently of TH if he missed. 

[bowhunter]

21 minutes ago, TK said:

4 sure  

So you like watching "4 play?"

[ODU AGGIE]

2 hours ago, Morneblade said:

The "IT" factor. I talked a little about this in the "Hive" thread, about why scouts don't grade this, because you really can't.

 

Sheesh, I can't really remember the last time we had a guy like that. But even though I have not punched my ticket for the TH bandwagon (yet), I see it in Heinicke. After he threw the pick, for the first time in decades, I didn't think the game was over. I still thought we had a chance. Even if the Gstrings score a TD.

 

But, guys like Rex Grossman have a lot of the same traits, and don't have "IT". So it's not easy to pick 'em. A couple of TH's throws could have been picks. If they are, then you just have a guy that thinks he can fit balls in places that he can't, and you get someone that might win a couple games here and there, but that is about it.

 

Tom Brady has "IT". And now for my controversial statement. Peyton Manning didn't. And I've watched him for longer than most people, since he when to college in the city I was born.

When you go 0-4 against your biggest rival, and find multiple ways to loose, you don have "IT".

 

Not sure where TH is yet. If he starts throwing more INT's and making risky decisions that fail, he's Sexy Rexy with legs.

If he keeps playing really good football (and he is playing really good football) and keeps elevating his play, and the play of those around him (which I truly think he is doing right now), then he has "IT".

 

And as some have already suggested, you lock him up contractually.

 

As a QB in the NFL the 2 biggest things you have to be able to do are accurate read a defense and get through your progressions quickly, and be a accurate thrower of the football. Everything else is secondary. If you can do those things and have ice in your veins when things get really tight, and elevate the play of those around you because they KNOW you can do what needs to be done, you have a very rare intangible that is unlearnable and uncoachable. And you hold on to guys like that.

 

Damn, I wish I had said that.

[Ball Security]

“Hi.  This is John Beck, your starting QB.”  IT factor, baby.

[Califan007 The Constipated]

3 hours ago, Burgold said:

Edit: @Jumbo beat me to the punchline, but I refuse to edit

 

 

[Califan007 The Constipated]

As for the "It" factor, pretty much what was written in the OP in my eyes:

 

- Exudes confidence

- Instill confidence in their reammates

- The stage is never too big for them

-They always want the ball in their hands when a play needs to be made

 

Richard Pryor described Jim Brown in one of his comedy skits a long time ago, and the way he imitated Brown saying "Give me the ball" in an unquestioning calm voice still has me rolling all these years later:

 

(It's Pryor, so yeah, some NSFW words lol)

 

 

[ThomasRoane]

1 hour ago, kingdaddy said:

Doesn't it make you wonder just how good TH could be with experience, game planning and full support of the team and management?

 

And!  Imagine if they could keep him on the cheap so that the FO could focus draft picks and salary cap on keeping the good young talent we have and adding in a couple of really good free agents.  FA's that actually produce on the field.

[tmandoug1]

3 hours ago, Thinking Skins said:

I was looking for shorter guys.  I like the Trent and the Theismann comparisons. 

Fran Tarkenton?

[gooseneck]

Not worried about the "IT"  factor; when you see it you will know it.

"I know it when I see it" is a colloquial expression by which a speaker attempts to categorize an observable fact or event, although the category is subjective or lacks clearly defined parameters. The phrase was used in 1964 by United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart to describe his threshold test for obscenity in Jacobellis v. Ohio.^[1][2] In explaining why the material at issue in the case was not obscene under the Roth test, and therefore was protected speech that could not be censored, Stewart wrote:

I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["hard-core pornography"], and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that.^[3]I know it when I see it - Wikipedia

 

The "IT"  factor is not important.  It is offensive. We know championships are won on defense.  That is why we need to address the "THAT FACTOR"  Our defense!!!!!!!  That defense needs to improve!!!

[Die Hard]

I used to have *it*. But a round of anti-biotics and 2 weeks later I was good.

[Koolblue13]

 

[ODU AGGIE]

8 hours ago, gooseneck said:

Not worried about the "IT"  factor; when you see it you will know it.

"I know it when I see it" is a colloquial expression by which a speaker attempts to categorize an observable fact or event, although the category is subjective or lacks clearly defined parameters. The phrase was used in 1964 by United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart to describe his threshold test for obscenity in Jacobellis v. Ohio.^[1][2] In explaining why the material at issue in the case was not obscene under the Roth test, and therefore was protected speech that could not be censored, Stewart wrote:

I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["hard-core pornography"], and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that.^[3]I know it when I see it - Wikipedia

 

The "IT"  factor is not important.  It is offensive. We know championships are won on defense.  That is why we need to address the "THAT FACTOR"  Our defense!!!!!!!  That defense needs to improve!!!

Hmm. Interesting. I have to admit, I have never heard anyone shout "It's what I'm talking about!" at a football game. But I sure as hell have heard (and used it myself) the expression, "THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!" And in retropspect, it always seemed to be said after a great defensive play. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!

[madden lot]

One day mama tollld me "it" was gonna happened but she never told me when 

[kingdaddy]

11 hours ago, ThomasRoane said:

 

And!  Imagine if they could keep him on the cheap so that the FO could focus draft picks and salary cap on keeping the good young talent we have and adding in a couple of really good free agents.  FA's that actually produce on the field.

He's on a 2 year deal too....if this breaks right and he shows he can be the guy we are in excellent shape with the cap.....I also like Fitz as the backup rather than the starter, he seems made for that role. 

[BleedBNG]

IT factor

 

 

 

[CjSuAvE22]

two good examples of "IT" factor on SNF...

[mistertim]

I think to me the "It factor" is mostly about making the biggest plays when the team needs it most, playing your best when it's the most important, and never being fazed by how big the stage is or how important the game is.

 

That requires high confidence, extreme focus (see Terry's amazing catch as noted above by @ThomasRoane), having a short memory for mistakes, and the ability to remain calm and composed in highly stressful situations.

[gooseneck]

Should we trade up and pick "IT" in the third round of next years draft?