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[mhd24]

1 minute ago, Morneblade said:

 

Exactly. Cam looks like a "big" receiver. Tall, but a big body he can use. AGG looks like a tall dude with a big catch radius, but thin and not someone that can just post up a DB. Cam has done more in actual games, and is young and blocks well. He's not great, and not terrible. I just don't see AGG being really better an anything. So there is a redundancy there, and I'm not going to go with the guy that has done less. Cam has had his share of drops. But Dyami Brown had a drop that was a drive killer, and no one is talking about that. It happens.

 

Yeah, but Cam had HUGE drops in big games against Carolina and Tampa last year.  He's a big bodied JAG.

[Morneblade]

2 minutes ago, Borgold said:

I actually think both Milne and AGG would be safe on the practice squad. AGG really hasn't flashed or done anything to make a scout go "Wow!" Milne has been better, but right now he seems like that James Thrash, high effort guy that every team needs and every team takes for granted. 

 

My guess is Milne is more likely to be grabbed if made available on the PS just because he's a better route runner and receiver. He can help a team now. If you grab an AGG, you are grabbing someone who might be able to help you down the road.

 

Me too. And if he can return punts, we can free up a space by cutting DeAndre Carter.

Just now, mhd24 said:

 

Yeah, but Cam had HUGE drops in big games against Carolina and Tampa last year.  He's a big bodied JAG.

 

And I'm not seeing anything that says AGG isn't one too. Without the splash plays Cam has given the team.

[mistertim]

12 minutes ago, IrepDC said:

Milne could take Humphries spot. For all the hype about him having chemistry with Fitz, we haven't seen it. If they look out of sync this week, I'd give that spot to Milne. 

 

Do you mean Humphries would be released or that Milne would take his starting spot eventually?

 

I'd be incredibly surprised if Humphries got released. He isn't a stud but he's proven that he can play pretty well in the NFL. After releasing Steven Sims that would mean our main slot guy is a 7th round rookie (though I'm sure Samuel will get a fair amount of snaps as a slot receiver).

 

I'd like to keep some sort of known commodity at a position, especially if I'm also considering having a rookie at the same spot as well. I think Humphries is basically a lock at this point.

[Califan007 The Constipated]

 

 

[Morneblade]

1 minute ago, mistertim said:

 

Do you mean Humphries would be released or that Milne would take his starting spot eventually?

 

I'd be incredibly surprised if Humphries got released. He isn't a stud but he's proven that he can play pretty well in the NFL. After releasing Steven Sims that would mean our main slot guy is a 7th round rookie (though I'm sure Samuel will get a fair amount of snaps as a slot receiver).

 

I'd like to keep some sort of known commodity at a position, especially if I'm also considering having a rookie at the same spot as well. I think Humphries is basically a lock at this point.

 

Definitely for this year. I think going forward it's a lot more questionable.

[NewCliche21]

2 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said:

 

Not in that situation.  Locking on to the underneath route instead of seeing the whole field and reading it properly definitely isn't how you develop the verticality of your passing game.  But more than that, I just can't accept that any NFL coach would be incompetent enough to actively coach their QB into bad habits in the preseason.  I guarantee that play made its way into their film session as something for Fitz to work on.

 

If we're looking for a silver lining to that play, it's that it happened in preseason when it doesn't matter, and you typically learn more from mistakes than from easy success.

 

2 hours ago, Califan007 said:

 

Then Terry shouldn't have been playing. But I personally think the QB getting in sync with his team's best WR during live games holds tremendous value.

 

Just to be clear, I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying that it at least had some logic attached to it.

[mistertim]

6 minutes ago, Morneblade said:

 

Me too. And if he can return punts, we can free up a space by cutting DeAndre Carter.

 

And I'm not seeing anything that says AGG isn't one too. Without the splash plays Cam has given the team.

 

To be fair though, Sims has had 51 targets in his career, and AGG has had 7. So he hasn't exactly had a ton of looks to make splash plays.

 

1 minute ago, Califan007 said:

 

 

 

Cut both of these lazy ****s. Did you see them jogging after those first 5 yards? Unacceptable.

[dswerdlw]

Has AGG played special teams? I know Sims has. If we keep six WRs, we'll keep one of the big body guys and one of the returners. I'd say keep Sims over AGG because Sims has done well on special teams. And I'd keep Milne as the returner because he has upside as a receiver.

[markmills67]

Is there any rumours of players who could be cut from other teams, who we could sign to our 53 man roster?. 

[Burgundy Yoda]

I'll take a crack at what I think our roster will look like. 

 

My prediction on the roster:

 

Offense: (25)

 

QB: (3)

1. Fitzpatrick

2. Heinicke

3. Allen (Montez to Practice Squad)

 

RB: (4) 

4. Gibson

5. McKissic

6. Barber

7. Patterson

 

WR: (6)

8. McLaurin

9. Samuel

10. Brown

11. Humphries

12. Sims, C. 

13. Milne (AGG to Practice Squad)

 

TE: (3)

14. Thomas

15. Bates

16. Reyes (Hemingway to Practice Squad)

 

OL: (9)

17. Cosmi

18. Scherff

19. Roullier

20. Flowers

21. Leno

22. Schweitzer

23. Charles

24. Lucas

25. Larson (Ismael to practice squad)

 

Defense: (25)

 

DL: (9)

26. Young

27. Allen

28. Payne

29. Sweat

30. Ioannidis

31. Settle

32. Smith-Williams

33. Bradley-King

34. Toney (Toohill to practice squad due to Toney's ability to play DE/LB)

 

LB: (5)

35. Davis

36. Bostic

37. Holcomb

38. Hudson

39. Mayo

 

CB: (6)

40. Jackson

41. Fuller

42. St-Juste

43. Moreland

44. McTyer

45. Apke 

 

S: (5)

46. Collins

47. Curl

48. McCain

49. Everett 

50. Reaves (Forrest to practice squad)

 

ST: (3)

51. Way

52. Hopkins

53. Cheeseman

 

Patterson is gone if he's exposed on the practice squad. I also think there's a heavy chance someone grabs Forrest if he goes to our practice squad, but right now Reaves is just the better player. 

 

A team can protect 4 players on a weekly basis on the practice squad. My guesses are AGG and Forrest will be locks to be protected week in and week out, the team probably wants to develop them, not sure who the other two players would be. 

Edited August 23, 2021 by Burgundy Yoda

[Going Commando]

43 minutes ago, skinsfan93 said:

My personal take on the offense is that we keep

 

7 receivers

3 qbs

3 TEs

3 RBs

10 o lineman

 

I think the 7th wideout comes down to Milne vs Carter. 

 

I would keep four RBs, three QBs and TEs, nine OLs, and six WRs.  Nine OLs should be enough since Lucas and Schweitzer/Flowers are high quality back ups and Charles has position flex.  Cut whichever of Ismael or Larsen is weaker and go with nine.  And then at WR cut Carter and Sims and take the training wheels off Milne and AGG.  All we've heard about with him is how he's unusually savvy for a rookie.  The other thing is McKissic and Samuel have position flex too, so we 10 skill players is still pretty high for us.

[FootballZombie]

13 minutes ago, dswerdlw said:

Has AGG played special teams?

 

This preseason, yes

[IrepDC]

17 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

Do you mean Humphries would be released or that Milne would take his starting spot eventually?

 

I'd be incredibly surprised if Humphries got released. He isn't a stud but he's proven that he can play pretty well in the NFL. After releasing Steven Sims that would mean our main slot guy is a 7th round rookie (though I'm sure Samuel will get a fair amount of snaps as a slot receiver).

 

I'd like to keep some sort of known commodity at a position, especially if I'm also considering having a rookie at the same spot as well. I think Humphries is basically a lock at this point.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. The starters would likely be McClaurin, Samuels(in the slot), and Sims/eventually Brown. Two WR sets would still be McClaurin and Samuels most often. In my opinion, Samuel in the slot for 3 WR sets is our best option right now. Humphries hasn't shown us anything to live up to the hype of having chemistry with Fitz. They have actually been out of sync. Without that upside, what does Humphries really add that we couldn't get from the younger guys? 

 

If Fitz has to rebuild chemistry with Humphries, he may as well build it with Milne, who we expect/hope to take over that role in the near future anyway. I'm not saying I think it'll happen, but if we do lose one of the younger players, I think by mid season you'll see complaints that Humphries isn't living up to the hype. A good showing this last preseason game could change my opinion, but Humphries hasn't impressed me so far.

[ILikeBilly]

Why are so many stuck on keeping 3 qbs on active roster.  Push one to the practice squad and you can now keep your 7th wr or 4th rb.  No one will poach Allen.  He only has value to us.

[Burgundy Yoda]

3 minutes ago, ILikeBilly said:

Why are so many stuck on keeping 3 qbs on active roster.  Push one to the practice squad and you can now keep your 7th wr or 4th rb.  No one will poach Allen.  He only has value to us.

Allen would 100% be poached, have you seen how bad some of these backup QBs are in comparison? The Bengals backups that we just played were absolutely garbage lol. You can fit a 4th RB on the roster, we don't need 7 WRs suited up on game days though. We traded a 5th rounder for Allen, the team isn't going to put him on the practice squad and has zero intentions of doing so. 

[Going Commando]

4 minutes ago, ILikeBilly said:

Why are so many stuck on keeping 3 qbs on active roster.  Push one to the practice squad and you can now keep your 7th wr or 4th rb.  No one will poach Allen.  He only has value to us.

 

Is he practice squad eligible?  Heinecke is too fragile to go into a big season as our only back up IMO.  Especially when Fitz has hardly nailed down the starting job beyond any doubt.  I think we need to keep our options open.

[KillBill26]

As someone who hopes Milne makes the 53, I hope apke keeps covering him.  He probably looks like Wes Welker out there.

[Dark Acre]

I've been preoccupied with the new face of the Jets franchise (Zach Wilson's MILF) so i haven't weighed in, but what's the point of just bombing the snot out of an opponent in preseason if the bomb target is McLaurin?  1st & 10 at the 25 (real men started at the 20), Fitz drops back, he's going deep, he's got Terry open, TD washington redfootballskins team!  And now we'll see the D get some reps.  Man, D.C.'s offense is going to be really fresh and rested for game 1 if they keep going 1 and out like this.  Well, hopkins does need XP practice.

[KillBill26]

20 minutes ago, ILikeBilly said:

Why are so many stuck on keeping 3 qbs on active roster.  Push one to the practice squad and you can now keep your 7th wr or 4th rb.  No one will poach Allen.  He only has value to us.

If Allen does get poached, then we may have to turn to a Steven montez level qb, and I would feel much better going into a game with KA at qb than I would with a montez caliber qb.  It's not worth the risk considering it's the most important position, so I'd go 3 qbs.

[Burgold]

23 minutes ago, IrepDC said:

Yes, that's what I'm saying. The starters would likely be McClaurin, Samuels(in the slot), and Sims/eventually Brown. Two WR sets would still be McClaurin and Samuels most often. In my opinion, Samuel in the slot for 3 WR sets is our best option right now. Humphries hasn't shown us anything to live up to the hype of having chemistry with Fitz. They have actually been out of sync. Without that upside, what does Humphries really add that we couldn't get from the younger guys? 

 

If Fitz has to rebuild chemistry with Humphries, he may as well build it with Milne, who we expect/hope to take over that role in the near future anyway. I'm not saying I think it'll happen, but if we do lose one of the younger players, I think by mid season you'll see complaints that Humphries isn't living up to the hype. A good showing this last preseason game could change my opinion, but Humphries hasn't impressed me so far.

I like this a lot. My only caveat would be... we got to make sure Samuels can play this year. He's been stashed for an awful long time. Makes ya wonder.

[zCommander]

Jaret Patterson: Preseason MVP candidate! It's safe to say the undrafted running back from the University at Buffalo is going to make the Washington Football Team. He's great on returns and power runs, finding space through tight quarters by moving laterally. I wonder if Peyton Barber's going to make the team now.

 

 

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[PartyPosse]

Keep two QBs. Worse comes to worst we lure Smith out of retirement lol.

[KillBill26]

37 minutes ago, IrepDC said:

Yes, that's what I'm saying. The starters would likely be McClaurin, Samuels(in the slot), and Sims/eventually Brown. Two WR sets would still be McClaurin and Samuels most often. In my opinion, Samuel in the slot for 3 WR sets is our best option right now. Humphries hasn't shown us anything to live up to the hype of having chemistry with Fitz. They have actually been out of sync. Without that upside, what does Humphries really add that we couldn't get from the younger guys? 

 

If Fitz has to rebuild chemistry with Humphries, he may as well build it with Milne, who we expect/hope to take over that role in the near future anyway. I'm not saying I think it'll happen, but if we do lose one of the younger players, I think by mid season you'll see complaints that Humphries isn't living up to the hype. A good showing this last preseason game could change my opinion, but Humphries hasn't impressed me so far.

I'm with you, bc I'm looking at it from a long term perspective.  I think we will all be excited for AH to be on the team week 1, but will he even be healthy by midseason?  As some of the younger guys progress, will AH still be worth starting/ logging a lot of snaps?  We don't even know if Fitz will be here next year, or even AH, so taking all this into consideration, I'd rather go with a younger guy.  Keep 6 were and agg and Milne both make it, along with cam sims.

5 minutes ago, PartyPosse said:

Keep two QBs. Worse comes to worst we lure Smith out of retirement lol.

Maybe RG3 can be our emergency qb for games he broadcasts for us?

[“Misdirection”]

They’re going to keep all 3 QBs. Do we not remember the Johnson/Sanchez year? With a defense like this you can’t waste time. Any of our 3 can play well enough to go on a run. 
 

Way more QB scarcity than WR/RB scarcity in the NFL. 
 

Also aren’t practice squad rules different now? Service years doesn’t matter, anyone can agree to be on it. At least, that was the case last year. 
 

Also on Carter, McQueen is right. For a PR specialist, he’s average at best, with more fumbles to his name than Sims. I don't get the appeal. 

[PartyPosse]

2 minutes ago, KillBill26 said:

Maybe RG3 can be our emergency qb for games he broadcasts for us?

Maybe Cousins once he gets benched for being Cousins?

Lol Paris Ford already cut by the Rams. That's a pretty wild fall from grace. I don't think I've seen anyone go from sure-fire to afterthought so fast. Maybe Arden Key?