A New Start! (the Reboot) The Front Office, Ownership, & Coaching Staff Thread

[Skinsinparadise]

I am not a lawyer but in my job i have to speak for public officials and often have to stay on message-stay on theme.   A talking point that you repeat and come back to.

 

I listened to both interviews.  The key theme was clearly IMO Bruce and his character is defined by those emails.   He referenced back to those emails again and again. 

 

 

[Skinsinparadise]

Sa Danny just said Bruce's emails with Gruden are clearly their number 1 talking point. 

[Spaceman Spiff]

49 minutes ago, Professor_Nutter_Butter said:

You've got to understand there's a fine line you have to walk to show you're not biased for either side. You may not like what they have to say, but you do have to get their side -- even if their side is nonsense. At least that's the stance I took when I was a reporter.

 

I haven't heard the interview, but I can't blame the guy for (I assume based off reactions) not grilling the guy.

 

That, and JP wants to be able to keep getting access to things.

 

Having been there, having been in that press room after tough games, believe me there's reporters in there that don't give a ****, they want to ask what we all want to know.  But they don't want their press credentials revoked for going too hard.

 

I think all the fans are like "Man, if I was in that mother****ing press conference, I'd be demanding some mother****ing answers!!"  No, you wouldn't, because you're not there representing yourself, you're there representing your publication.  And your publication wants to still have access to the team.  And if you act like a douche and come off snarky, you're gone.  

[CobraCommander]

26 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Sa Danny just said Bruce's emails with Gruden are clearly their number 1 talking point. 

And it’s pretty clear who

leaked those emails.

[Skinsinparadise]

12 minutes ago, CobraCommander said:

And it’s pretty clear who

leaked those emails.

 

Yeah I was thinking the same thing.  They are obsessed with those emails -- clearly they think they save Dan in the investigation and I gather they hope it would turn the fans wrath towards Bruce instead of Dan.

 

I got to listen to it again but good to hear Danny and Grant had the same first impressions I did.

 

A.  He dodged the idea that most of this stuff happened pre-Bruce.  First he dodged it completely and went back to Bruce's emails as part of his answer even though it had zero to do with the question.  They went back to the same question and he dismissed it by saying more or less the initial NFL investigation looked into it.  Nothing he said really addressed this question directly.

 

B.  Considering how Dan and Bruce were joined at the hip how did Dan miss all these things happening right under his nose?  The lawyer said for that Dan apologized.  So in short, Dan was obtuse and missed it all according to his lawyer and for that he's sorry.

 

And he realized the culture was bad when Bruce said the culture was good?

 

Bottom line is for press shy Dan Snyder no way I buy this isn't a gambit to deal with something coming down the pike.  And clearly mission #1 is to disparage Bruce's character so I gather they expect Bruce's testimony to be a problem. 

Edited October 7, 2022 by Skinsinparadise

[CobraCommander]

The really question is why is Snyder’s lawyer doing this? They are clearly trying to get out ahead of something. Team officials don’t just call up 106.7 the fan, Snyder’s current media enemy. 

[Chris 44]

Maybe I've missed it but have any of the major networks really done a story on this? I understand why because of the NFL t.v. contracts that they are beholden too, but its as if no one in the national media has ran with this. Outside of a few comments here and there. Just seems like an absolute blockbuster investigative report could be done. Don't think we will see any momentum to get Dan out until that happens. 

Edited October 7, 2022 by Chris 44

[Zim489]

Sheehan is predicting a Mayhew plus BenJohnson/Pep Hamilton set up for 2023 if a change is made. 
 

I absolutely hate it 

[Skinsinparadise]

 

 

4 minutes ago, Zim489 said:

Sheehan is predicting a Mayhew plus BenJohnson/Pep Hamilton set up for 2023 if a change is made. 
 

I absolutely hate it 

 

He said Ben Johnson or Hamilton.   But Ben looks like a hot candidate potentially so I doubt it.

 

I am still betting on Herm Edwards, maybe Joe Judge or McAdoo? 😀  Though I still think Ron stays. 

Edited October 7, 2022 by Skinsinparadise

[profusion]

2 hours ago, Chris 44 said:

Maybe I've missed it but have any of the major networks really done a story on this? I understand why because of the NFL t.v. contracts that they are beholden too, but its as if no one in the national media has ran with this. Outside of a few comments here and there. Just seems like an absolute blockbuster investigative report could be done. Don't think we will see any momentum to get Dan out until that happens. 

 

There were big stories around the time the cheerleader allegations first came out. Not as much since then.

 

If this were the Cowboys or a NY team, there'd probably be more heat. Or, if a prominent NFL player or group of players was willing to publicly criticize Snyder.

 

At this point, to the non-interested observer there hasn't been much new to report on this story in a while. The basic lines are well-drawn. If the league isn't willing to do anything about Snyder and the players aren't willing to collectively come out against him, then there's not much new to say.

[CapsSkins]

Congress says Dan's a bad guy and should sell the team.

 

Dan says no Bruce was the bad guy. Also, Carolyn Maloney is under investigation by the House Ethics Committee so she's not saint either.

 

Nobody in the NFL really give a ****. The story is buried. Life goes on.

[88Comrade2000]

2 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

 

 

He said Ben Johnson or Hamilton.   But Ben looks like a hot candidate potentially so I doubt it.

 

I am still betting on Herm Edwards, maybe Joe Judge or McAdoo? 😀  Though I still think Ron stays. 

Well since he was thinking about Marvin Lewis, maybe give it to Marvin.

[Skinsinparadise]

Daniel Snyder still wants to blame everyone but himself

Perspective by Barry Svrluga

 

What’s important to know about the Washington NFL franchise, which has been owned by Daniel Snyder for more than a quarter of its existence, is that whatever happened there in the past is not at all his fault, but what is happening right now — as the organization tries to reinvent itself — is completely his doing, even though it is happening as the NFL has said he can’t be involved in the franchise’s day-to-day operations because of previous poor judgment about the culture he oversaw.

 

 

Get it? Got it.

“The culture is actually damn good,” Bruce Allen, then Snyder’s team president, said on the day the team fired Jay Gruden as coach three years ago. Those words are now printed on T-shirts worn by a fan base that can show its face only if its tongue is firmly planted in its cheek.

 

Allen, of course, was responsible — wholly responsible — for a culture that was rotten to its core, misogynistic and even racist. How could Snyder have known, what with his office being a full 20-second walk down the hall from Allen’s in Ashburn? What a lowlife this Allen guy was. Had to purge the franchise of him. Only took a decade.

“It is widely acknowledged that the single most significant step the Team took to remedy its toxic workplace was to rid itself of Mr. Allen,” Tom Davis, the former congressman from Virginia who now is representing Snyder’s NFL team, wrote in a letter Wednesday to the House Committee on Oversight and Reform. “The fraternity-house culture that Mr. Allen instilled in the Commanders organization is the principal reason that the Commanders came under investigation in the first place.”

 

 

Because Allen was so obviously and completely deplorable, it is unthinkable that Snyder would have said, “Bruce Allen is the personification of an NFL winner,” which he did in a team-issued statement the day he hired Allen as general manager in December 2009, or that he would have amplified that sentiment by saying in another team-issued statement, “I think the world of Bruce Allen,” which he did on the day Allen was given a promotion to team president in 2014.

 

“Giving him both titles is appropriate,” Snyder said back then.

Davis, in his letter to the Oversight Committee that is investigating the culture created by Snyder — excuse me, Allen — pointed out the committee could have interviewed a long list of current Commanders employees whose tenures dated back to Allen’s time.

 

“Those employees would, almost universally, have identified Mr. Allen’s departure as the date that the Team culture began to turn around,” Davis wrote.

Darn right. At the time of Allen’s departure, he had worked there almost exactly a decade. Snyder had owned the team for only — checks notes — 20 years. How was Snyder to have a handle on the environment in which his employees worked, much less know that the man he hired, promoted and empowered had, as Davis wrote, “racist, misogynistic, and homophobic beliefs he tolerated and espoused in his e-mail conversations with his friends”? That could not possibly have been gleaned by Snyder, who stood side by side with Allen at practice after practice from the time Allen was hired in December 2009 to the day he was fired in December 2019.

 

 

Davis’s missive was presented as a letter to the Oversight Committee to raise questions about the motivations behind and methods used in the committee’s investigation of Snyder. In reality, it was a press release. There were victims who endured the culture of the Commanders, sure. The real victim, the public needs to know, is Daniel M. Snyder.

 

 

This is who Snyder is: When pushed to apologize for gross misconduct, he apologizes. “On behalf of the organization,” he wrote to his employees in the wake of the initial Washington Post report on the franchise’s workplace culture, “we want to apologize to each of you and to everyone affected by this situation.”

But when the moment has passed and the heat is turned up, he can’t help himself in blaming others. He is a middle-schooler who invites his buddies over to play stickball, and when a window breaks he immediately points at everyone else. He wants credit for anything good and absolution for anything bad.

 

Look, I’m not here to stand up for the congressional investigation. Maybe Davis is right in pointing out omissions in the pool of interviewees and redactions of presentations that result in misleading conclusions. Given the explosive and thorough reporting on this situation in The Post over the past two-plus years, there can’t be high expectations that congressional staffers with more important issues on their plates and an apparently small witness list will turn up much more.

 

But this entire affair presented Snyder’s best opportunity to reset his reputation. The steps aren’t that difficult. Just reiterate, over and over: The previous culture was unacceptable and unforgivable. I am responsible. I have to fix it.

Instead, it has devolved to: Look at the culture these other people created and the mess I had to clean up.

It’s instructive that the first headline item in Davis’s nine-page letter reads “Evidence Regarding the Team’s Turnaround and the Current State of Its Workplace,” and the second reads “Disregard Evidence.” Here’s the Snyder playbook in action: Building up the case for him — through team president Jason Wright’s inclusive, progressive approach — can’t help but be followed by the systematic denigration of others. Plus, there’s no acknowledgment — none — that the “Team’s Turnaround” was necessary because of the unsavory management teams Snyder installed over two decades

 

 

“That progress has not been easy,” Davis wrote. “Indeed, it has involved terminating many longtime employees who did not embody the culture that the new management team is attempting to foster. Those terminated individuals are, in many cases, resentful about their departure from the Team.”

Those terminated individuals were, in every case, hired by Snyder or Snyder’s hires. The next section of Davis’s letter disparages four former employees, including Allen, who testified before the committee or to committee staff.

Think this is just he-said, she-said stuff? It’s not. Picture a current Commanders employee who is following it all. Wright and his team may be in the midst of creating a safer, more diverse, more welcoming workplace. Snyder still owns the team and seems a scary combination of vindictive and petty. Would you feel comfortable raising red flags about workplace misconduct if your boss’s boss’s boss has such a history of striking back?

 

There is no divorcing Snyder from his NFL team — not its results on the field, not its environment in the building, not after 23 years. His lawyers’ letter to Congress doesn’t distance him from the culture he created and oversaw. It only draws new attention to his same old delusion. Blame Congress. Blame Bruce. Blame ex-employees with vendettas.

Washington’s NFL franchise has been of and about Daniel Snyder for going on a quarter of a century. The “single most significant step” in creating the team’s culture? It wasn’t hiring or firing Bruce Allen or anyone else. It was the day Snyder purchased the team.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/10/06/daniel-snyder-bruce-allen-letter/

[tomwvr]

4 hours ago, CobraCommander said:

And it’s pretty clear who

leaked those emails.

And if dan did leak those he caused the dead issue to reanimate and now may kill him

[BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen]

50 minutes ago, tomwvr said:

And if dan did leak those he caused the dead issue to reanimate and now may kill him

 

That's what needs to be discovered, who leaked those emails and under whose direction. Snyder has claimed he doesn't even have a email, so if that is proven to be false it could be another nail in his coffin.

[CobraCommander]

10 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen said:

 

That's what needs to be discovered, who leaked those emails and under whose direction. Snyder has claimed he doesn't even have a email, so if that is proven to be false it could be another nail in his coffin.

Well he doesn’t have to have an email address to leak someone else’s emails. But it really seems like the company did so probably at his direction. Hard to prove if he just told someone else to take care of it.

[Wildbunny]

3 hours ago, CobraCommander said:

Well he doesn’t have to have an email address to leak someone else’s emails. But it really seems like the company did so probably at his direction. Hard to prove if he just told someone else to take care of it.

I don't see anybody within the organisation leaking Bruce's emails without Dan's approval and/or order.

[CobraCommander]

1 minute ago, Wildbunny said:

I don't see anybody within the organisation leaking Bruce's emails without Dan's approval and/or order.

Right, which he probably did verbally, soo no way to prove it. He operates the same way a mob boss does, nothing can be tied to him directly unless someone recorded him. 

[FLSkinz83]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/10/08/dan-snyder-bruce-allen-washington-nfl-investigation/

[Renegade7]

[Wildbunny]

4 hours ago, FLSkinz83 said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/10/08/dan-snyder-bruce-allen-washington-nfl-investigation/

From this article (that you can also get in BHRBN):

 

Quote

But the Committee found that it was Snyder’s lawyers who identified and shared the offensive emails from among 400,000 in Allen’s dormant account with Wilkinson, highlighting specific inappropriate language within them as part of the effort to cast Allen as responsible for the team’s toxic workplace.

That will please Jon Gruden and infuriates Mark Davis I think...

[Skinsinparadise]

 

Daniel Snyder ramps up effort to shift blame to former ally Bruce Allen

By Liz Clarke

, 

Mark Maske

 and 

Nicki Jhabvala

 

Daniel Snyder’s embrace of Bruce Allen once was total in December 2009. In announcing Allen’s hiring as general manager of Washington’s NFL franchise, Snyder hailed him as a seasoned front office executive and a “proven winner.”

 

 

After a decade of declining attendance and only three winning seasons, Snyder’s rejection of Allen was similarly total. He fired Allen as team president in December 2019.

 

But Snyder didn’t stop there. Three months later, he tried to cut Allen’s guaranteed severance pay in half. More than a year later, when Snyder’s ownership appeared threatened by an NFL-sponsored investigation into reports of widespread workplace sexual harassment, Snyder and his attorneys sought evidence that would portray Allen as the architect of the toxic behavior, the House Committee on Oversight and Reform concluded in a report in June that characterized the actions as an “effort to scapegoat his former team president.”

 

And this week, with support among fellow NFL team owners appearing to shift away from him, Snyder publicly broadcast those allegations in a nine-page letter from his lawyers — and signed by former Virginia congressman Tom Davis — to the chairwoman of the committee that is nearing completion of its year-long investigation into the team.

 

In his letter to Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney (D-N.Y.), Davis denied the committee’s conclusion that Snyder had conducted a “shadow investigation” to shift blame for the team’s workplace issues to Allen, calling the characterization a “false narrative.” But he also acknowledged the efforts “of Mr. Snyder and the Team to uncover evidence of unlawful conduct directed against him and his family” as “proper and separate from the NFL’s workplace investigation.” Davis further wrote that the NFL “was contemporaneously aware of those efforts.”

Moreover, Davis wrote, the team’s findings concluded that the ringleader of the bad behavior in the team’s workplace was Allen.

 

“The fraternity-house culture that Mr. Allen instilled in the Commanders organization is the principal reason that the Commanders came under investigation in the first place,” Davis wrote, noting that the team’s “single most significant step” in remedying its toxic workplace “was to rid itself of Mr. Allen.”

Allen declined to comment on the letter this week.

 

Central to Snyder’s effort to blame Allen was a batch of misogynist and derogatory emails found in Allen’s dormant team email account. The emails have nothing to do with Snyder. But that was the point, Snyder’s lawyers argued in closed-door presentations to both attorney Beth Wilkinson, the NFL’s lead investigator, and league officials in 2021: The mere existence of the crude and offensive emails in Allen’s inbox was proof that Allen, not Snyder, was the bad actor.

 

But the Committee found that it was Snyder’s lawyers who identified and shared the offensive emails from among 400,000 in Allen’s dormant account with Wilkinson, highlighting specific inappropriate language within them as part of the effort to cast Allen as responsible for the team’s toxic workplace.

 

 

Davis did much the same, acknowledging in his letter that his law firm provided the committee “with a small sample of [Allen’s] workplace communications” on the eve of Allen’s approximately 10-hour remote deposition on Sept. 6.

“That the Committee would nevertheless choose to sponsor such a witness, in full awareness of the racist, misogynistic, and homophobic beliefs he tolerated and espoused in his email conversations with his friends, is truly astounding,” Davis wrote.

The surfacing of the emails for the NFL and the committee was part of a multipronged effort aimed at Allen. In spring 2021, Snyder also sent private investigators to the homes of at least a half-dozen former team cheerleaders to solicit information about Allen and sexual misconduct.

 

“He told me that he was here on behalf of the Washington Redskins to ask me questions about Bruce Allen,” former cheerleading captain Abigail Dymond Welch testified, recounting a private investigator’s visit to her Texas home in May 2021. “He said he was working on behalf of the law firm Reed Smith out of New York … He then said, ‘This is regarding interactions with Bruce Allen and the sexual misconduct investigation with the Washington Redskins.’”

 

Snyder also used the federal court in what the committee characterized as an abuse of subpoena power to get access to Allen’s phone records, texts, emails and other private communications.

Finally, Snyder publicly aired his campaign to disparage Allen via Wednesday’s letter to the Committee, which a lawyer for Snyder amplified in several broadcast interviews in the ensuing days.

 

While Allen had no shortage of detractors among fans during his tenure in Washington, he hasn’t been associated with reports of sexual harassment in the workplace.

 

Allen was never mentioned by any of the dozens of female former team employees who told The Washington Post that they experienced sexual harassment on the job.

Attorney Lisa Banks, who represents more than 40 former team employees, said that none of her clients mentioned Allen in discussing the sexual harassment and abusive behavior they experienced at work.

 

“He was not a factor in any of the stories of harassment and abuse I heard from 40-plus clients,” Banks said. “None of my clients reported they had a problem with Bruce Allen. Not one.”

Banks reiterated that in a letter Friday to Davis.

“[T]he repeated attempts by your client to blame former team president Bruce Allen for the toxic workplace culture will certainly fail,” she wrote. “While we have no knowledge whether Mr. Allen was a party to offensive emails, as your letter states, we do know that none of our clients has alleged that Mr. Allen played any role in the harassment or abuse they suffered or witnessed. In fact, most have never even met Mr. Allen.”

 

Snyder’s targeting of Allen also is notable because it seeks to tarnish a family name that’s entwined with the franchise’s history. Allen’s father, the late George Allen, led Washington to a Super Bowl appearance and seven consecutive winning seasons in the 1970s and is enshrined in the team’s Ring of Fame as well as the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

 

Davis’s letter and the committee’s findings also provide new context for the leaks of emails involving Allen that led to Jon Gruden’s resignation as coach of the Las Vegas Raiders last October.

While the committee found team lawyers flagged the emails for Wilkinson and Davis acknowledged sharing some with the committee before Allen’s deposition, it’s unclear who shared the emails with the Wall Street Journal and New York Times in October 2021.

 

Tanya Snyder told fellow NFL owners during a league meeting that month in New York that the leaks did not originate with her or her husband, according to multiple people familiar with the situation. One person familiar with the NFL’s view said then that some league officials believed the leaks had originated with Daniel Snyder through representatives acting on his behalf.

 

Regardless of who was responsible, the leaks had significant consequences.

Gruden resigned Oct. 11, 2021, as coach of the Raiders within hours of a New York Times report detailing emails he sent over a seven-year span ending in early 2018 to Allen and others that contained homophobic, misogynist and sexist insults, as well as a photo of topless cheerleaders.

 

The leaks also reignited the controversy over the team’s workplace, three months after the NFL largely had put the matter to rest by fining the team $10 million and announcing that Tanya, the franchise’s co-CEO, would be in charge of the team’s day-to-day operations for an unspecified period.

On Oct. 21, Maloney launched the ongoing probe, citing “serious concerns” about the team’s apparent abusive workplace and the NFL’s lack of transparency in refusing to release Wilkinson’s report.

 

In November, Gruden filed a lawsuit accusing the NFL and Commissioner Roger Goodell of using the leaked emails to “publicly sabotage Gruden’s career” and pressure him into resigning via “a Soviet-style character assassination.”

The NFL repeatedly has denied leaking the emails, writing in a legal filing that requested dismissal of Gruden’s lawsuit in January: “To be sure, the NFL and the Commissioner did not leak Gruden’s emails.”

 

 

For a decade, Snyder and Allen were virtually inseparable, particularly when team business was at hand.

At training camp each summer and at practices throughout the season, they stood shoulder-to-shoulder surveying players on the field. They attended team-related social functions and political gatherings together, with Allen glad-handing with the political wiles of his elder brother, George, a former Virginia governor and U.S. senator. It was much the same at NFL meetings, where Allen was on a first-name basis with virtually every league executive, team owner, general manager, coach and agent.

 

“Bruce was a vital connection in terms of knowing people in Richmond and being accessible to us,” said Virginia state Sen. J. Chapman “Chap” Petersen (D-Fairfax City). “Bruce had a lot of connections, either through his brother or personality-wise.”

Even after many fans had soured on Allen, sick of the team’s losing and weary of his ill-advised free-agent signings and tone-deaf public remarks, such as the assurance amid a playoff drought the team was “winning off the field,” Allen served a useful purpose for Snyder by absorbing hostility that otherwise might have been directed at the owner.

But after a 3-13 season during which Snyder fired Allen’s handpicked coach Jay Gruden following an 0-5 start, Snyder fired Allen on Dec. 30, 2019.

 

Three months later, Snyder notified Allen via the team’s lawyer that he was reducing his guaranteed severance pay 50 percent because of financial conditions resulting from the coronavirus pandemic. That letter, dated April 1, 2020, was attached to a May 2021 federal court filing in Arizona in which Allen argued against Snyder’s effort to gain access to his private communication.

“Mr. Snyder’s attempt to withhold my compensation forced me to retain legal counsel and initiate a proceeding through the NFL, in which I prevailed,” Allen stated in the court filing.

 

Snyder’s attempt to cast Allen as responsible for the team’s toxic workplace does not account for allegations of bad behavior said to have taken place before Allen was hired in December 2009. Among them: The $1.6 million settlement with a female former employee who alleged that Snyder sexually assaulted her in the private compartment of his corporate jet in April 2009; and the creation of a lewd video from outtakes of a 2008 cheerleader swimsuit-calendar shoot that showed exposed nipples and pubic areas, which a team executive reportedly directed be made for Snyder. A similar video was made from outtakes of a 2010 swimsuit shoot.

 

Snyder has denied the former employee’s 2009 sexual assault claim, and a team investigation concluded it was an extortion attempt. Snyder also said he did not request the creation of the lewd videos, nor had any knowledge of them. In 2021, the team reached confidential financial settlements with many, if not all, of the 30 cheerleaders whose outtakes were included.

Welch, a Washington cheerleader from 2005 to 2012 and a former squad captain, was among them.

In testimony for the congressional committee, Welch recounted a private investigator’s unannounced visit to her home in May 2021 to solicit disparaging information about Allen.

She had recently moved to Texas with her husband and their three young children, she said, when a neighbor texted while they were vacationing to tell her that a man had parked his car in front of her house for several hours and was “stalking or spying.” The neighbor explained the man finally knocked on her own door, identified himself as a private investigator and asked if she knew Welch.

 

The man came back after Welch and her family returned from vacation, she said. He knocked on her door, claimed he was a former DEA agent and presented a business card that she described as looking “fake.”

Welch told the committee that “perhaps five other” cheerleaders also had been visited at their homes by private investigators, who were “asking questions about Bruce Allen and the sexual misconduct investigation.” The visits, which Welch said she learned about as part of a chat group with former cheerleaders, occurred several months after the NFL told Snyder to “back off” his use of private investigators to query former team employees.

The committee concluded that Snyder scored at least a partial victory in persuading the NFL to shift its investigation to Allen. As Maloney noted, the NFL launched a “targeted review” of Allen’s emails that included “troubling exchanges” between Allen, Jon Gruden, and Jeff Pash, the NFL’s general counsel.

Whether those efforts continue to resonate with the NFL — or Snyder’s fellow team owners — remains to be seen.

Multiple owners said recently they believe that serious consideration may be given to ousting Snyder from the league’s ownership ranks, either by convincing him to sell his franchise or by voting to remove him. One owner said, “He needs to sell.”

Eight days after The Post reported those comments, Snyder made an on-field appearance with Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones before last Sunday’s game between the two teams in Arlington, Tex. The Commanders posted a photo of the scene to social media and called Snyder and Jones “[f]riends and rivals for 24 years.”

For more than a decade, Snyder leaned on Allen to help him through such perilous times. Now he’s asserting that once-trusted lieutenant is to blame for the latest round of scrutiny.

 

 

Edited October 8, 2022 by Skinsinparadise

[Thinking Skins]

I didn't listen to the interviews on Friday. I don't really care about that side of it. I don't care about the who's to blame arguments. What I care about is the sponsorship stuff. Dan wasn't going to change the name until the sponsors got involved. And I feel like he won't sell until the sponsors get involved. Will FedEx do it again? Nike? Amazon? That's what I'm waiting for because that's when the lights come on and we know his days are numbered. 

[Zim489]

I wouldnt be surprised at all if we get some news in the AM

[CobraCommander]

1 hour ago, Zim489 said:

I wouldnt be surprised at all if we get some news in the AM

Sunday? Maybe, probably not. If it has to do with congressional investigations it will wait until Tuesday. Monday is a fed holiday and those people don't mess around when it comes to taking time off.