CowboyKillerz Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Llevron said: Whats the significance of 13 days? When the trade deadline is? Or just in general? Hallows eve... Eve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, CowboyKillerz said: When the trade deadline is? Or just in general? Ah ok. Yea I guess I was asking about the trade deadline. Thanks homie edit: I didnt realize we were this far into the season already. Feels like we just won our first game.... wuut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyKillerz Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Fo sho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbias Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Am I weird for hoping every time Bruce Allen says he's not trading Trent I want him to wink or give an eye twitch direct into the camera? Some kind of poker tell that would give me a little comfort? Kind of like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, KDawg said: What I think is fair is that Bruce definitely doesn't do this stuff with the intent of not improving. I think he believes his tactics to be helpful for the franchise. They aren't. But I think he truly believes they are. Unless he's a super secret agent that was put into the Redskins organization to shed light on Snyder's ill advised moves by being his mouth piece and his ultimate goal is to transfer ownership to someone more competent. To me he presents as someone whose self-interest is always going to be at least a 50.1% stakeholder. He may believe that he's doing for the team, but it and every other action he takes is contingent on self-advancement/self-assurance. Example: I always want to get paid. I will do something good for the world, and I will believe I'm doing good, as long as I get paid. Without that self-interest need met, he cognitively cannot move to altruism, so he's stuck believing he's doing for the team while in a binary sense only doing for himself. If it happens to help the team then that's great. That's a brief and sloppy clinical view. EDIT: To be clear, this is not unique to Bruce Allen. This is pretty much anyone who gets that high up the ladder. Bruce is just god awful when he is "doing what's best for the team." Intent may be pure (it's not, but close enough given this type of personality), talent is absent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Skins Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Jake TrotterVerified account @Jake_Trotter 6m6 minutes ago More Dorsey asked if he’s spoken to Washington team president Bruce Allen: "We’ve had a few conversations.” (LT Trent Williams)… When Williams was referenced… “It takes two to tango." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho fan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, Unbias said: Am I weird for hoping every time Bruce Allen says he's not trading Trent I want him to wink or give an eye twitch direct into the camera? Some kind of poker tell that would give me a little comfort? Kind of like this: Not weird at all. Unfortunately every time Bruce Allen says he's not trading Trent Bruce instead gets a little warm feeling that makes him think he's a tough guy. He feels manly like he controls the world and is teaching everyone a lesson. Im sure there is a good meme for this but I don't have a meme library handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 https://thefandc.radio.com/redskins-still-not-interested-trading-trent-williams 106.7 The Fan's Craig Hoffman reported last week Allen's comments were more than just public posturing and Allen "told Trent a few weeks ago that he is going to have to sit the year and they would explore trading him in January." Hoffman also reported a source told him Williams intends to follow through on his holdout and has no plans to play for the Redskins through the remainder of the regular season. Of course, Allen said on the eve of the season the left tackle would return to the Redskins this season. There were reports (or rumors) of a deal being made with the Cleveland Browns which seem unfounded at the moment. Ben Standig ✔@BenStandig From what I can tell nothing has changed in forever. Didn't chase the report from Cleveland accordingly. So many aspects of this drama from both sides make little sense, but until legit further notice that's where things stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyKillerz Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just hoping its smoke and mirrors until the deal is complete.. Ima be pist if we seriously snuff at anything containing a first round pick for a guy that has no desire to be here, is over 30, hasnt played in almost a year, and has been injury prone the last couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I'm all for bashing Bruce, but the devil is in the detail on this. I'm actually encouraged they've had 'conversations'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said: I'm all for bashing Bruce, but the devil is in the detail on this. I'm actually encouraged they've had 'conversations'. I'd be more encouraged if the vibe was they are bartering but Bruce just has gotten what he wants yet. Don't love the idea of teams calling him and Bruce responding with he's not open for business -- which is the vibe that most who are covering the story are giving. But to your point, we got 13 days, it certainly could still go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said: I'm all for bashing Bruce, but the devil is in the detail on this. I'm actually encouraged they've had 'conversations'. Did Dorsey actually say "that it takes two to tango?" If so that is very concerning and backs up the thinking that the Redskins will just sit on Trent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Skins Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Adrian Peterson right now on a radio show on Sirius XM: Reporter: So you honestly think there's something the Redskins can do that will have Trent Williams playing Left Tackle for them again...? AP: Yea, I do (he knows better than anyone... they are best friends) As a fan, I don't want him back at this point... take the picks and run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempre_victrix Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, SemperFi Skins said: Adrian Peterson right now on a radio show on Sirius XM: Reporter: So you honestly think there's something the Redskins can do that will have Trent Williams playing Left Tackle for them again...? AP: Yea, I do (he knows better than anyone... they are best friends) As a fan, I don't want him back at this point... take the picks and run. As much as I appreciate AP and his willingness to be direct, I don't think he knows much about this. I'm sure that Bruce has asked Trent what it will take to get him on the field and I bet Trent's answer has been a trade. If this is over the scalp issue, TW is being a drama queen and there is nothing that can undo the past. If it's about money, then TW can suck it up and play out the contract that he signed and loved 3 years ago. If Bruce thinks TW is coming back, I think he's delusional. Listen to any and all offers for the next week and make the best deal possible. This team could make a giant step towards getting right with a few extra high picks and a couple of young players. If Bruce did get the offer being discussed and hasn't leapt upon it, SWINM is going to drive to his home and piss on his flowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, nonniey said: Did Dorsey actually say "that it takes two to tango?" If so that is very concerning and backs up the thinking that the Redskins will just sit on Trent. No chance we just sit on Trent with a good offer at this stage. Let's see what the Browns are actually proposing first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Makes no sense to holdout over money, when you are foregoing $650K per week. Makes no sense to holdout over the medical staff of Bruce really told him he’d fire anyone to get him back. What does make sense is that there is more to it than all of that, as I’ve suspected all along. Just now, UK SKINS FAN '74 said: No chance we just sit on Trent with a good offer at this stage. Let's see what the Browns are actually proposing first. You can’t propose a deal to someone with their fingers in their ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said: No chance we just sit on Trent with a good offer at this stage. Let's see what the Browns are actually proposing first. No Chance? Actually, I think that is the most likely outcome- we'll know for sure in 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: You can’t propose a deal to someone with their fingers in their ears. If Dorsey wants him bad enough he'll shout louder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho fan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said: No chance we just sit on Trent with a good offer at this stage. Let's see what the Browns are actually proposing first. I think you might be underestimating Bruce's ego and how stubborn he can be. He has a history of doing this. Bruce would rather land a 2nd round pick in the off season than a 1st now if it means he gets to be "the boss" and prove his point to Trent a little longer. Stupidity is strong with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I see Standig is the one dude trying to take on the point that maybe the off season is better than now but at the same time he accedes that Bruce's "pride" is in play as to that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 If Trent doesn't report then we retain those 2 years left on his deal so I guess thats a small positive when it comes time to deal him this offseason. It still makes no sense to hold him but here we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Who knows what's actually going on, but based on the two tweets below, it seems Cleveland isn't even offering up a 1st, so the "two to tango" line by Dorsey is a bit hypocritical since Bruce seems willing to part with Trent if given a 1st. 1 minute ago, JSSkinz said: If Trent doesn't report then we retain those 2 years left on his deal so I guess thats a small positive when it comes time to deal him this offseason. It still makes no sense to hold him but here we are. I really doubt he doesn't report later this season (after the trade deadline) to accrue his extra year if we get to that point. Regardless, it would be a massive gamble on our part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: Who knows what's actually going on, but based on the two tweets below, it seems Cleveland isn't even offering up a 1st, so the "two to tango" line by Dorsey is a bit hypocritical since Bruce seems willing to part with Trent if given a 1st. This is about where I am on this....for now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbeagle85 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 47 minutes ago, SemperFi Skins said: Adrian Peterson right now on a radio show on Sirius XM: Reporter: So you honestly think there's something the Redskins can do that will have Trent Williams playing Left Tackle for them again...? AP: Yea, I do (he knows better than anyone... they are best friends) As a fan, I don't want him back at this point... take the picks and run. Yeah it's called give him more money. That's what this is all about and this BS that it's not is ridiculous. He's not worth more money and we need to trade him. Trent doesn't make this team that much better. We need the picks and the fact Bruce isn't talking to teams is so frustrating. He's literally ruined this team and now we have a chance to rebuild and he's stopping that as well. I'm so ****ing pissed right now. This organization makes me so mad. How can they be so damn incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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