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Renegade7

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14 minutes ago, Hersh said:

Katie Porter yes, AOC no. As long as she presents herself as a Democratic Socialist, it won't happen.

 

She can't move up in the party if she stays a democratic socialist, not in this country.

 

She's gets picked apart of this by actual Democratic Socialist organizations, same as Bernie.  She could step away from that and jus say she had a change of heart after better understanding the end game.

 

It's not about being smart, its again asking the question of if she can meet her goals for our country without democratic socialism in full effect.  If Europe can do it, so can we.

 

You be a socialist in the democratix party, its not gonna work.  Either change or get out. Not buying she won't have power as popular as she is, and congress isn't only way to get what she wants.

 

Someone suggested running for mayor in NYC to prove her platform would work before trying to shove it down our throats on a national level.  Only NYC would possibly even let her try.  Possibly.

 

Her cap in congress is probably Speaker of the House because of how popular she is.  Socialism and Capitalism don't leave a lot of room for compromise because they hate each other so much.

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The Evil Genius

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2 hours ago, Renegade7 said:

I dont blame AOC for nominating Bernie instead of Biden.

 

I intentionally didn't watch convention to pretend to have a life and feeling I wasn't going to hear anything new.  I want to see Michelle, Kasich, and AOC speech and maybe that's it on YouTube. 

 

Fine, removing Trump is the priority, accepted. Then what specificly policy wise? Has the 7/21 party platform draft been finalized yet?

 

AOC is setting up for "then what" in a world where GOP is supposed to be getting decimated.  She has to get out of that party before they catch on how serious she is.

 

2 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said:

AOC only spoke for a minute. She’s the natural heir to Bernie.

 

Even if they disagree with her, she should’ve been given a regular speaking slot of at least 5 minutes. Progressives love her and if they are pissed election time; they may just stay home or not mail anything in.

 

I think there might some misunderstanding of how the DNC works. AOC was chosen to nominate the other eligible candidate..as someone had to officially do it since Bernie received enough votes.

 

It's a procedural step that happens at all of the DNCs and AOC doing it made the most sense.

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1 minute ago, The Evil Genius said:

 

 

I think there might some misunderstanding of how the DNC works. AOC was chosen to nominate the other eligible candidate..as someone had to officially do it since Bernie received enough votes.

 

It's a procedural step that happens at all of the DNCs and AOC doing it made the most sense.

 

Thank you for this. I thought I must have misunderstood something. It seems like such a dumb move for her otherwise that serves no end. 

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7 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

 

 

I think there might some misunderstanding of how the DNC works. AOC was chosen to nominate the other eligible candidate..as someone had to officially do it since Bernie received enough votes.

 

It's a procedural step that happens at all of the DNCs and AOC doing it made the most sense.

 

They coulda had someone else do that and give her some time like the others that actually gave speeches.  I'm not confused by her role in this convention, I feel like for someone who has their own thread they wasted her.

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Her tweet above is a good example of why I like her. No venom, no snark. Info and most of all understanding and then a resolution. 

 

I dont have to feel like a dumb ass for being wrong and I get to feel good about changing my mind after. 

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1 minute ago, Llevron said:

Her tweet above is a good example of why I like her. No venom, no snark. Info and most of all understanding and then a resolution. 

 

I dont have to feel like a dumb ass for being wrong and I get to feel good about changing my mind after. 

 

You in particular shouldn't feel like a dumbass for being wrong about something as complex as politics, you already proven you can admit it and change your mind outloud.

 

Don't be so hard on yourself, I dont see your idealism or agenda hardlines getting in the way like say mine does sometimes.

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10 minutes ago, Renegade7 said:

 

They coulda had someone else do that and give her some time like the others that actually gave speeches.  I'm not confused by her role in this convention, I feel like for someone who has their own thread they wasted her.

 

This is a thread in a football forum, not a politics forum all the time forum. AOC is a freshman Representative, and the sort of logical successor to Sanders, so asking her to second Sanders was a pretty good gig for her. Like I posted before, a senator seconded Biden with the same time constraint. 

 

I suspect in 2024, she'll have a bigger role. She's already learned a lot how things work in Washington. I lived in Alexandria practically my whole young adulthood and didn't realize how things really work until I interned at a women's rights organization in my early 30s. It's not what's taught in high school.

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38 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said:

 

This is a thread in a football forum, not a politics forum all the time forum.

 

 

I wouldn't underestimate this place, this is unlike any football forum I've ever been to.

 

38 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said:

 

AOC is a freshman Representative, and the sort of logical successor to Sanders, so asking her to second Sanders was a pretty good gig for her. Like I posted before, a senator seconded Biden with the same time constraint. 

 

I suspect in 2024, she'll have a bigger role. She's already learned a lot how things work in Washington. I lived in Alexandria practically my whole young adulthood and didn't realize how things really work until I interned at a women's rights organization in my early 30s. It's not what's taught in high school.

 

How can she be the heir to Bernie and learn how to compromise? 

 

Thats not what Bernie was, that's not what Democratic Socialism is. Shes a member of DSA, their website is cotton candy on top of no compromise.

 

If she wants to be the furthest left progressive in her party, she has to let that democratic socialsm thing go, its going to kneecap her, only a matter of time. 

 

Again, how many progressives actually got speech time at this convention?  That was my original point, another reason I'll wait for what I want to see on Youtube, and not the only person that feels that way.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/08/18/dnc-lineup-young-voters/

6 minutes ago, Rdskns2000 said:

Her putting Bernie into nomination is fine.

 

Joe has a problem with youth. He should showcase a young rising star. Even though she has served one term, she should've gotten a speaking spot also.

 

Hell, they gave both Carters a spot,  much too long.

 

They gave a republican more time to talk about outreach then they did AOC.  This was a moderates convention, thats fine, we lost, but damn.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Renegade7 said:

 

I wouldn't underestimate this place, this is unlike any football forum I've ever been to.

 

 

How can she be the heir to Bernie and learn how to compromise? 

 

Thats not what Bernie was, that's not what Democratic Socialism is. Shes a member of DSA, their website is cotton candy on top of no compromise.

 

If she wants to be the furthest left progressive in her party, she has to let that democratic socialsm thing go, its going to kneecap her, only a matter of time. 

 

Again, how many progressives actually got speech time at this convention?  That was my original point, another reason I'll wait for what I want to see on Youtube, and not the only person that feels that way.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/08/18/dnc-lineup-young-voters/

 

They gave a republican more time to talk about outreach then they did AOC.  This was a moderates convention, thats fine, we lost, but damn.

 

 

It's a geezers convention.

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1 hour ago, TryTheBeal! said:

If the progressive/populist wing isn’t lamenting every slight real or imagined, you’re doing it wrong.  And AOC is only about 3-4 years from being tied to the mast for maturing as a politician and a person.  
 

Watch it happen.

 

There's no way she can make everyone happy and I dont believe for two seconds she plans to try. Gift and a curse.

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It's so funny because while AOC is still green and can sometimes step into it at times, I swear all these right-wing nobodies believe the Fox nonsense coverage of her that she is actually a dumb person so they feel all emboldened to go after her with nonsense which she more than gladly counter-punches into oblivion.

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