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The 2019 Free Agency Tracker -Added: Landon Collins, Rodgers-Cromartie, Donald Penn, Flowers, Smallwood. Lost:Preston Smith, Nsekhe, Crowder, HaHa

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The Flowers signing is proof positive of why you dont listen to anyone who says "You dont draft X position this high" or "This is the spot you go after "X position".  You draft players, not positions, and Flowers was the guy everyone said we should trade down a few spots and nab.  Instead we drafted a multi probowl Guard, and then got Flowers for free(4 million of free) a few years later.  You can never draft a perennial pro-bowler too high.  Unless hes a kicker.

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Flowers was my favorite Giants player, watching him wave guys through so they could pound Eli into the dirt was the highlight of so many of my recent Sundays. 

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4 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

lol. Flowers is beyond trash.

I usually have no issue taking chances on former top 10 picks...but this man has zero redeeming qualities 

 

god bless Case when Trent/Morgan miss their designated 4-5 plays a game due to injury 

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4mil per Year seems high for a crappy backup swinging door tackle... maybe they'll try to convert him to a guard?

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I mean we need guards at least guard depth. I know we had to replace Nselhe n all but why would want anything do with any oline from that team last year?

 

 

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Flowers has to know this is it for him, maybe that incentive and good coaching will make him a serviceable back up. Glass half full right?

 

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Lol ereck flowers another former first round bust this idiot allen thinks will help us waste of a roster spot

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Yeah, I don't mind bringing anyone in cheap, but 4 mil for him seems crazy high. He has been beyond terrible. Should have been a 1 mil type of signing. Will see if details change with more contract info being released.

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2 hours ago, goskins10 said:

 

Hmm... Not remembering it being Jay that signed, resigned all these players with injury histories. By the end of every season there is no team left. Also, until him and his coaching staff got here the team was horrible in terms of developing people. 

 

I can understand not liking Jay, but saying he is primary reason the team is not winning, that Bruce has done enough to give him the right players? Wow, just not seeing that at all. Bruce has had some decent drafts - I have defended him for this. But his approach to Free Agency is horrendous, not to mention his handling of our previous QB. He has no plan. He flails about in free agency with no real plan in place. 

My beef with Jay is literally coaching. I said that already that he's constantly out-coached. Even when the team is healthy, it's not like they ever set the world on fire. Lol

 

All in all, I feel like at some point, there will be a tipping point. Either he'll finally breakthrough, or he'll break.

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19 minutes ago, Peregrine said:

The Flowers signing is proof positive of why you dont listen to anyone who says "You dont draft X position this high" or "This is the spot you go after "X position".  You draft players, not positions, and Flowers was the guy everyone said we should trade down a few spots and nab.  Instead we drafted a multi probowl Guard, and then got Flowers for free(4 million of free) a few years later.  You can never draft a perennial pro-bowler too high.  Unless hes a kicker.

 

Something's wrong...I've been liking and agreeing with a lot of your posts lately lol...

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5 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

My hopes of accidentally tanking continue to look good. 

I got a feeling regardless of how whoever feels about the season will see a maybe 3-4 game win season.

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1 minute ago, bakedtater1 said:

I got a feeling regardless of how whoever feels about the season will see a maybe 3-4 game win season.

 

I'm the opposite...I feel like it's gonna be a perfect storm of "obvious dumpster fire" moments that, when taken as a whole, somehow propel the team to 10 wins and division champions lol...

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Posted (edited)

Callahan may get this guy on the right track. I don't see the harm in it. He's going to be around a lot of pros in that room. Trent will take him under his wing and it will be good for him. 

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I see people reacting to $4M for Flowers. It reminds me of when people got all pissed about Scandrick and his initial contract - 2yrs $7M. Then it turned out all of $1M was gauranteed. Need to see th full contract deals. These reports are always full potential deals not the important details of guaranteed money. 

 

If it is $4M guaranteed, then this a bad signing. if it's full of incentives and/or the guaranteed money is more like $1M, then it's no harm no foul. Bring him in and see if he can compete. If he can with new scenery and maybe a position change, Great. If not, move along little doggie.  Again, it's March 18th. Still a lot to be decided before they release the 53 man active roster. 

 

6 minutes ago, CrypticVillain said:

My beef with Jay is literally coaching. I said that already that he's constantly out-coached. Even when the team is healthy, it's not like they ever set the world on fire. Lol

 

All in all, I feel like at some point, there will be a tipping point. Either he'll finally breakthrough, or he'll break.

 

I refer you back to the - You can;t make Chicken Salad out of Chicken ****. All the coaching in the world cannot actually tackle or catch a ball or make a guy stay healthy. Until there is a real NFL starting roster it is hard to say the lack of Ws are on the coaching. 

 

What we do know is Bruce Allen is a ****ing moron. He is not trusted by agents, players, or owners - well except one unfortunately. He has destroyed every NFL team has has been to. Totally inept. 

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Is Flowers going to count against one of the Compensatory Pick's we might be getting?  Trying to find out if he was straight up cut by the Jags, or if he was a UFA.

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Not sure why you sign this guy to this contract when you can draft or likely get someone comparable After the deadline where signings no longer affect comp picks. Was anyone competing for this guy? I didn’t even know he was available until we brought him in to visit.

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