is Trumpism helping or harming the position of Christianity in America?

[China]

Trump’s Iowa Faith Leader Coalition includes bigots, advocate of killing Obama

 

Donald Trump’s list of “impressive” people on his recently released Iowa Faith Leader Coalition include several men of hate.

 

There’s a congressional candidate who once suggested hanging former President Barack Obama and offered conciliatory words for white supremacists and white nationalists.

 

Another man compared LGBTQ people to pedophiles.

 

And a pastor once offered a political rally prayer that asked God to “silence” Trump’s critics.

 

A Raw Story review of the Iowa Faith Leader Coalition list, which includes more than 250 names, identified David Pautsch of Davenport, Iowa, as the person who once suggested Obama should be hanged for treason.

 

Pautsch, who’s challenging Republican incumbent Mariannette Miller-Meeks in a congressional primary, also encouraged people to come to the defense of former Rep. Steve King of Iowa after King told the New York Times in 2019, “White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization — how did that language become offensive?”

 

“I thought it was an important question to ask — why are those offensive words?” Pautsch said.

 

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[PleaseBlitz]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12917425/paster-dwayne-wayden-deep-fryer-mcdonalds-high-point.html

 

Pastor is arrested for attempting to shove wife's co-worker's head into a McDonald's deep fryer in North Carolina after she called him claiming colleagues were 'disrespecting' her

 

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A pastor who promised 'new levels of ministry' in 2024 attempted to give one McDonald's worker a baptism of fire in a deep fryer after he 'disrespected' his wife.

 

Trainee manager Latoya Gladney, 44, called her husband from the franchise in High Point, North Carolina, on December 28 to complain that her staff were being rude to her.

 

When he arrived, Pastor Dwayne Wayden walked round the counter and began punching Theodore Garlington in the face.

 

The preacher at Elevated Life International Ministries then grabbed the unfortunate cook and started shoving his head towards one of the fryers where temperatures reach up to 400 degrees, before 'several employees' managed to haul him away, police reported.

 

'The victim suffered a large contusion to the forehead and right eye, along with scratches to his neck,' investigators discovered when they arrived.

 

Wayden, 57, who also works as a semi-truck driver, was arrested for assault and battery when police watched security footage of the attack and taken to High Point Police HQ where he was released on a $1,000 bond.

 

An ambulance was called for Garlington, 34, but he asked that relatives drive him to hospital instead.

 

In his new year message Wayden spoke of 'leaving the old mentality behind and embracing the newness of life that's in front of you'.

 

'Don't be scared of taking a chance on something new, when you know the old way of doing things is not working,' he advised.

 

His church offers a series of videos for 'spiritual healing of the flesh' on its website, but one with advice on 'vexation, disappointment and suffering' promises only 'content coming soon'.

 

Wayden, who revealed his marriage to Gladney in a November Facebook post, runs his section of the ministry from a storefront space next door to Bueno Burrito in nearby Thomasville.

 

 

[Captain Wiggles]

 

I'm not surprised. I know some evangelicals from that area. Not the best people. 🤷‍♂️

[PokerPacker]

10 hours ago, PleaseBlitz said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12917425/paster-dwayne-wayden-deep-fryer-mcdonalds-high-point.html

 

Pastor is arrested for attempting to shove wife's co-worker's head into a McDonald's deep fryer in North Carolina after she called him claiming colleagues were 'disrespecting' her

What would Jesus do?  Burn the other cheek.

[Cooked Crack]

 

[Bang]

 More alarming that the expected 64% of Republicans believing the fat **** is a person of 'faith', the 10% of Dems and 24% of "independents" who share this idiotic fantasy.

 

~Bang

 

[Fergasun]

I am so done with this timeline. 

 

Let's assume that Rep, Dem and Ind are equally distributed between the 300 million of the population. 

 

98 million believe Trump is a person of faith, 202 million don't. 

 

118 million think Biden is a person of faith, 182 million don't. 

 

128 think Romney is - 172 million don't. 

 

Can we do the Pope for a control poll?  Mother Theresa?  

[mcsluggo]

how about Jimmy Carter?   the most religious President we have ever had, and the ONLY president we have had in the last century at least that actually used his religious compass to guide policy.  he was also the most fiscally conservative president we have had in a century, and the bravest President we have had in my lifetime (and i am a geezer), willing to hire a inflation-hawk fed chairman to tame the runaway inflation his administration inherited, rather than kicking it down the road (like every other president), and applying a moral compass to our foreign policy--rather than the expediency of what would be helpful to himself politically in the short run.

 

of course, he is the most hated president by American "conservatives", and Christian fundamentalists (although i prefer the latin term:  dickheads).... at least until the black guy showed up.

 

what would Jesus do?

Edited January 7 by mcsluggo

[Renegade7]

Who TF are they polling?

 

Are they polling us or trolling us?

[Jumbo]

5 minutes ago, Renegade7 said:

Who TF are they polling?

 

Are they polling us or trolling us?

 

 

The content provided by 90% of the pollsters and most cable TV news/internet pundits is often a form of trolling (basically click bait for $$$). 

[The 12th Commandment]

Could have gone in any number of threads.

[Renegade7]

Organized religion will get stripped to its core before it becomes grounded enough to prevent that at rate it's going.

 

 

[China]

Christian Nationalist Bill Cook Says Those ‘Involved In Election Fraud’ Will Be ‘Struck Dead By God’

 

During a recent episode of his “America’s Black Robe Regiment” program, Rev. Bill Cook announced that his organization is going to be “combating election fraud” during the 2024 elections by heading to the swing states to warn that anyone “involved in election fraud” will be “struck dead by God.”

 

“We’re going to be combating election fraud in all the swing states,” Cook said. “We’re not going to just sit around and say the election was stolen and there’s really nothing we can do because the other side kind of controls the levers of power. We’re going to call for fasting and prayer for our elections. We’re going to call for sentinels—liberty sentinels—to stand up and contend with wickedness in our electoral process.”

 

“You read about what happened to Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5 when they lied to the Holy Spirit,” Cook continued. “They were both struck dead by God in the instant. We’re going to bring that story to bear on everyone who’s involved in election fraud. We’re going to be saying to them, ‘Beware when you do this because you might just find yourself standing before God a lot sooner than you thought, and it’s not going to be a happy time when you do.'”

 

“Nothing would cure election fraud like a couple of people dropping dead in the moment,” Cook proclaimed.

 

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So he thinks being a good Christian involves wishing certain people would drop dead? 

[Bang]

OK.

 

Show me.

 

~Zap!

[PokerPacker]

10 hours ago, China said:

So he thinks being a good Christian involves wishing certain people would drop dead? 

Wishing?  No.  He's calling for murder here.

[Renegade7]

I like this, need to see more of this...

 

https://www.newsweek.com/thousands-sign-christian-petition-urging-bishops-not-back-donald-trump-1862370

Edited January 21 by Renegade7

[China]

On 9/27/2023 at 3:49 PM, China said:

I think if Trump set foot in a church he'd burst into flames.

 

 

[The Evil Genius]

This won't end well.

 

 

Watching MAGA trip all over his comments and embrace his view of TayTay on Twitter is ****ing hilarious. 

[Bang]

Uh oh!
Satanic rituals and evil influence by

Jazz,

Elvis,

Little Richard

 The Beatles

The Rolling Stones

most of the 60s

KISS

Alice Cooper

Backwards Led Zeppelin

Black Sabbath

... Taylor Swift will destroy this country!

 

Well, it's about time, I say.

 

~Bang

Edited February 27 by Bang

[Larry]

1 hour ago, Bang said:

Satanic rituals and evil influence by

Jazz,

Elvis,

Little Richard

 The Beatles

The Rolling Stones

most of the 60s

KISS

Alice Cooper

Backwards Led Zeppelin

Black Sabbath

 

You forgot

Disney

M&Ms

Bud Light 

[Skins24]

Alright, bear with me. I couldn't find one, so I had to create a tin foil hat for this one. And to make it clear, I am creating a conspiracy theory. But, it's flawless so far 👌 (still building)

 

This thread is absolutely fascinating. And certainly not unique in it's views on Christianity in America, and Christianity in general.

But how did we get here? Whoever has brought us to this point is certainly playing the long game. This has been decades in the making (if not longer)

 

I mean, if any...ANY...of the stuff said about Christianity in here is said about any other religion, you will be labeled ____phobic, or having ___phobia or ___ism.

There are many other religions, including at least one of the big ones, which are magnitudes more intolerant, repressive, with a higher penchant for violence than Christianity, but could you imagine someone calling them out on it? You would be labeled so fast! Not so with Christianity. Why is that?

If you slaughter a few Christians for their religion, it's barely news. It's a "oh no. Anyway..." moment. Still digging in to this. Where did this slope begin?

 

The other side of this is a bit easier to dig into. How America Christianity is harming itself and, by it's actions, inviting the persecution it fears. More importantly, how American Christianity is barely a shell of true Christianity - 'true' as in what Christ (and the OGs) actually taught.

Money and power will forever be humanity's downfall, or rather the insatiable need for both. Organized religion is no different. We can thank the Romans for getting this train really rolling - the intermingling of religion and politics. Both government and religion grab a taste of the money and power they seek. Protestantism kinda sorta shied away from that, only to fully hop on board late 20th century - at least here in America. Lessons from the Romans were not learned. There's no way mesh the two without compromise. So you slip a compromise here. Slip one there. Another one here. And that compromise leads to distortion. Distortion leads to confusion. Confusion just leaves a mess. Meanwhile the original message is lost, collecting dust somewhere.

And because confusion reigns, others are looking at this monstrosity like...'What? No. I don't like that. I don't like that at all.'

What passes itself off as Christianity in America has become detestable. So, you know, of course we can speak out against it.

 

Now the conspiracy part!

The folks who did this were genius. Evil, but genius. So, in the speaking out against the fake Christianity, they tested the waters. A little at first. Splashing in a dash of intolerance. Testing the public's response. No real blow back. So through the years, they splashed in a little more and a little more. Now, the folks who claim the most tolerance have been programed to have select intolerance. And because of that programing, should anyone ever find and present true Christianity, it's an automatic rejection. No one's going to hear it.

It really is genius.

Combined with the fact that we've come to tolerate violence.

 

Where does this all lead??

 

[The Evil Genius]

Enlightenment,  I hope.

[China]

Revealed: US conservative thinktank’s links to extremist fraternal order

 

The president of the rightwing Claremont Institute and another senior Claremont official are both closely involved with the shadowy Society for American Civic Renewal (SACR), an exclusive, men-only fraternal order which aims to replace the US government with an authoritarian “aligned regime”, and which experts say is rooted in extreme Christian nationalism and religious autocracy.

 

The revelations emerge from documents gathered in public records requests, including emails between several senior members of SACR: Claremont president Ryan P Williams; its director of state coalitions and Boise State University professor Scott Yenor; and others including former soap manufacturer and would-be “warlord” Charles Haywood.

 

The trove also contains an “internal” SACR “mission statement” with a far more radical edge than the public “vision” now recorded on the organization’s website.

 

That document speaks of recruiting a “brotherhood” who will “form the backbone of a renewed American regime” and who “understand the nature of authority and its legitimate forceful exercise”; whose “objectives” include to “collect, curate, and document a list of potential appointees and hires for a renewed American regime”.

 

The document does not indicate that such “renewal” will take place through participation in electoral contests, and nor does it make mention of the US constitution.

 

Along with the financial links between the SACR and Claremont – the Guardian previously reported Claremont’s $26,248 donation to SACR in 2020 – the documents raise questions as to what extent SACR is an initiative of the Claremont Institute, and to what extent its participants have abandoned liberal, secular or democratic politics.

 

The Guardian contacted Ryan Williams, Claremont’s president, for comment on his involvement in SACR, and on the extent of Claremont’s ties to the organization.

 

In an email he said: “While the Claremont Institute acted as a fiscal sponsor to help the Society for American Civic Renewal establish itself as an incorporated 501(c)(10), that was the end of any corporate collaboration between the Claremont Institute and SACR.”

 

He added: “As a founding board member of SACR in my personal capacity, obviously I think that a fraternal order dedicated to civic and cultural renaissance and rooted in community, virtue, and wisdom is a very good thing.”

 

Williams also confirmed that he continues to serve as a SACR board member.

 

The Guardian also contacted Scott Yenor and Boise State University for comment.

 

Heidi Beirich, co-founder of the Global Project on Hate and Extremism, said of the SACR documents: “Their planned regime is obviously far from a multiracial democracy. The documents appear to be describing a religious autocracy.”

 

Laura K Field, a writer, political theorist and senior fellow at the Niskanen Center, a Washington thinktank, said the documents expressed “extreme Christian nationalism” where “a particular kind of Christianity should dominate as an ideal, and that it should dominate permanently”.

 

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[dfitzo53]

On 2/27/2024 at 1:34 PM, Larry said:

 

You forgot

Disney

M&Ms

Bud Light 

And Dungeons and Dragons and Harry Potter!

[Cooked Crack]