PleaseBlitz Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Predicto said: I'm still scarred from Trump Night last November. I have no hope left. Just fear. I have that too. PTSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 The idea that Democrats cannot use Moore as a whipping boy in 2018 if he loses tonight makes zero sense. The Republicans supported his candidacy, as did the president. Just play those statements and move onward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 13 minutes ago, No Excuses said: Indeed. Progress is a product of action, not time. You can't bet on a future in which electing Roy Moore penalizes the GOP. Moore would be a degradation of a lot of our norms and standards. He is an awful person. 100% Agree. More is a line in the sand. An openly racist homophobic child molester in the Senate is a win for no one. This is a matter of principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just now, BenningRoadSkin said: The idea that Democrats cannot use Moore as a whipping boy in 2018 if he loses tonight makes zero sense. The Republicans supported his candidacy, as did the president. Just play those statements and move onward. The problem there (as Nonniey mentioned) it requires the Reps to sit out or vote opposing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, tshile said: To my liberal friends entertaining the long term advantage given the dems by Moore winning tonight... May I remind you some liberals voted for trump in the gop primaries using the same logic. There's a major difference between 1 senator out of 100, and the POTUS. But I agree, that was a terrible idea (although I'm not sure anyone really did it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 minute ago, BenningRoadSkin said: The idea that Democrats cannot use Moore as a whipping boy in 2018 if he loses tonight makes zero sense. The Republicans supported his candidacy, as did the president. Just play those statements and move onward. He’ll be out of the public eye and it will be much less effective. No harm, no foul and all that. Plus, Trump will deny ever having heard of this so-called “Roy moore.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said: The idea that Democrats cannot use Moore as a whipping boy in 2018 if he loses tonight makes zero sense. The Republicans supported his candidacy, as did the president. Just play those statements and move onward. If he loses he will fade from the limelight. If he wins he will be the unhinged gift that keeps on giving. (that's the theory, anyway - I'm all in on Jones) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheGreatBuzz Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, No Excuses said: Blame Mitch McConnell. I do not want a Democratic Senate majority voting for Supreme Court judges nominated by a radical Republican President. Maybe once the Democrats draw even on Merrick Garland's stolen seat, we can call it even and carry on. I disagree with you strongly. But respect your opinion. Now if the Left actually held hearings and a vote, and rejected Trumps choice, I would support that. That was more than the Right could manage. But I would be against the Left voting down anyone who isn't a raging Liberal or something. If Trump were able to put up a reasonable, qualified, middle of the road justice or even a SLIGHTLY conservative one, I would expect the Left to support. Or they would just be showing they are willing to do the same thing they claimed was so wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Jones up by .2 over on 538 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulSkin Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, visionary said: Someone really should hijack the PA system and play Young Girl by Gary Puckett and the Union Gap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just now, Cooked Crack said: Jones up by .2 over on 538 Anyone else hoping for a contested recount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: He’ll be out of the public eye and it will be much less effective. No harm, no foul and all that. Plus, Trump will deny ever having heard of this so-called “Roy moore.” 5 minutes ago, Predicto said: If he loses he will fade from the limelight. If he wins he will be the unhinged gift that keeps on giving. (that's the theory, anyway - I'm all in on Jones) He will only be out of the spotlight if the Dems let him fade away. I would tie Moore to candidates in many of hte burbs next year and use his name in the Senate. The Republicans will tie every candidate to the Clintons and they are not in the spotlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said: The idea that Democrats cannot use Moore as a whipping boy in 2018 if he loses tonight makes zero sense. The Republicans supported his candidacy, as did the president. Just play those statements and move onward. No one is saying that but if he won imagine how they could have used him. Additionally this possibly cripples Bannon's efforts to target the Conservatives and Centrists in the Republican party (Which would have helped the Dems election efforts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 minute ago, nonniey said: No one is saying that but if he won imagine how they could have used him. You can use him the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said: He will only be out of the spotlight if the Dems let him fade away. I would tie Moore to candidates in many of hte burbs next year and use his name in the Senate. The Republicans will tie every candidate to the Clintons and they are not in the spotlight. Donald Trump backing Moore did pretty much all the work that Democrats needed. Trump should have kept his mouth shut. He is going to look really bad if Moore loses. He would have backed such a despicable person that even the most conservative state in the country was repulsed by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just now, BenningRoadSkin said: You can use him the same way. Not to the same level. Plus Bannon's targeting of Centrists and Conservatives would also be crippled with a Moore loss. 1 minute ago, No Excuses said: Pretty much. Donald Trump backing Moore did pretty much all the work that Democrats needed. Trump should have kept his mouth shut. He is going to look really bad if Moore loses. He would have backed such a despicable person that even the most conservative state in the country was repulsed by him. Won't be nearly as effective as it would have been if Moore had won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, twa said: Anyone else hoping for a contested recount? You truly are an agent of chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, SoulSkin said: Someone really should hijack the PA system and play Young Girl by Gary Puckett and the Union Gap Don't Stand So Close to Me by the Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I dont think this moves the needle on Trump. The man has sided with nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulSkin Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Sane people are not going to let the **** show of the past year fade from memory by 2018, no matter what happens tonight. Bannon's strategy is already set to blame McConnel for not supporting Moore, if he loses tonight. Blue wave is coming either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 minute ago, nonniey said: Not to the same level. Plus Bannon's targeting of Centrists and Conservatives would also be crippled with a Moore loss. If you say so. Like I said before, Hillary Clinton will be the face of Republican campaigns next fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just now, BenningRoadSkin said: If you say so. Like I said before, Hillary Clinton will be the face of Republican campaigns next fall. Will bet a beer it will be Pelosi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Boy oh boy, Moore's lead is shrinking with each passing moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ* Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Can Doug Jones do the impossible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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