kleese Posted December 2, 2017 Author Share Posted December 2, 2017 32 minutes ago, GoDeep81 said: Shouldn't we see a couple OL IR's additions today? Or are they just waiting so not to show their hand? I may be in the minority, but I see no real reason to play these guys anymore until they're healed up. Screw long developing plays and the W/L record.. Season over, get well, keep Kirk healthy (with safe play calls) and hope for a better draft pick. You just don’t do that. 25% of the season left to go and guys are playing for their jobs. These four games may or may not matter to fans, but it’s 25% of what these people get paid to do. It’s not fair to ask them to essentially lay down. If guys are risking long term damage, then sure, I get it. But if other guys have to push through because it is their job and gives us a slightly better chance to win, then they need to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDeep81 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 1 hour ago, kleese said: You just don’t do that. 25% of the season left to go and guys are playing for their jobs. Obviously you play to win, but (IMO) I don't think putting Trent and Morgan on the field injured is worth the (possible) reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 It’s kind of amazing to me that the offense has played as they have. Just the tackle situation has been ridiculous. Lose your swing tackle, then your starting LT, then both ankles on the starting RT, then lose the backup to your backup... and then your LT comes back on one leg and your swing tackle plays guard instead of playing for one of your two injured tackles. Geez, that was even ridiculous just to type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmills67 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Is Ray Brown still available?. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorcooley1 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 8 hours ago, skinny21 said: It’s kind of amazing to me that the offense has played as they have. Just the tackle situation has been ridiculous. Lose your swing tackle, then your starting LT, then both ankles on the starting RT, then lose the backup to your backup... and then your LT comes back on one leg and your swing tackle plays guard instead of playing for one of your two injured tackles. Geez, that was even ridiculous just to type. Try being the one reading it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 it was hard to figure, but I guess they just wanted to put their five best players out there and maybe neither Williams and Moses wanted to sit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cumberland Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 This isn't directly related to current injuries but I didn't want to bump a Su'a thread just for this. Anyway, apparently the cause for his retirement has finally come out. It's called PCS or Post Concussion Syndrome. Not sure how everyone else feels, but I'm ready to move on from this guy. I just hope we can get a conditional ham sandwich in trade for him when the new league year begins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 25 minutes ago, Paul Cumberland said: It's called PCS or Post Concussion Syndrome. Damn I thought that meant Park City Skins... But what do I know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 32 minutes ago, Paul Cumberland said: This isn't directly related to current injuries but I didn't want to bump a Su'a thread just for this. Anyway, apparently the cause for his retirement has finally come out. It's called PCS or Post Concussion Syndrome. Not sure how everyone else feels, but I'm ready to move on from this guy. I just hope we can get a conditional ham sandwich in trade for him when the new league year begins... But the team put him on the left squad list. If he was dealing with injury related concussion symptoms this whole time, that's a whole other story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cumberland Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 28 minutes ago, justice98 said: If he was dealing with injury related concussion symptoms this whole time, that's a whole other story. Rick Snider just alluded to this as well... I can conceivably see the Players Association getting involved in this now as players on the reserve / left squad list do not get paid like they would if they had been placed on IR. The conspiracy theorist in me says this is something Su'a did, to not only stem fan base scorn, but to be able to point his finger at our organization (timing aside) to say "look what they did to me...". Just seems like we can never escape drama. /sigh Edit: Paul Connor just chimed in as well... Some good questions here... The drama will never end... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Paul Cumberland said: Anyway, apparently the cause for his retirement has finally come out. It's called PCS or Post Concussion Syndrome. Not sure how everyone else feels, but I'm ready to move on from this guy. I just hope we can get a conditional ham sandwich in trade for him when the new league year begins... Well, "PCS" sounds better than "My client didn't really want to play football, so he left the team immediately and without warning the week before the season." I mean, he was caught on tape talking to Compton and basically saying he didn't have the desire to play. It's just his agent trying to clean up his mess. Right now, I'm not counting on Cravens to contribute at all. In fact, I'd be surprised if the skins didn't try to trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 13 minutes ago, ExoDus84 said: Well, "PCS" sounds better than "My client didn't really want to play football, so he left the team immediately and without warning the week before the season." I mean, he was caught on tape talking to Compton and basically saying he didn't have the desire to play. It's just his agent trying to clean up his mess. Right now, I'm not counting on Cravens to contribute at all. In fact, I'd be surprised if the skins didn't try to trade him. Yeah but now he can say that whatever he did then was due to PCS... I find it hard that it only comes out now. But I would find it even harder than nobody in Redskins Park medical crew didn't come up with this... So that is not much by now, but we'll have to see how it plays out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 It looks like his agent is simply doing PR, trying to sell that he really did have problems, but is eager to get back to playing football. However it wouldn't surprise me at all if there is much more to it and that Bruce and the gang did something sleazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 10 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: It looks like his agent is simply doing PR, trying to sell that he really did have problems, but is eager to get back to playing football. However it wouldn't surprise me at all if there is much more to it and that Bruce and the gang did something sleazy. I don't see what Bruce could have done that was sleazy. Not that it would be a shocker if he did, but the timeline of events doesn't really lend itself to any conspiracy theories. Cravens quit on the team right before the season, and Bruce/Snyder moved to put him on the left squad list (and ending his season) right away, as to not create any locker room conflicts or have any extraneous distractions. I'd expect any coach or GM would have done the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Does my "pride as a fan" being injured count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, ExoDus84 said: I don't see what Bruce could have done that was sleazy. Not that it would be a shocker if he did, but the timeline of events doesn't really lend itself to any conspiracy theories. Cravens quit on the team right before the season, and Bruce/Snyder moved to put him on the left squad list (and ending his season) right away, as to not create any locker room conflicts or have any extraneous distractions. I'd expect any coach or GM would have done the same thing. I used "and the gang" to include anyone over there at Redskins Park, including the medical staff. Not because I know anything. I've thought all along that the team actually played their hand right on this one. I just wouldn't be surprised to find out they didn't and there's a bunch of missing pieces that leave the team with egg on their faces per usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 14 minutes ago, ExoDus84 said: I don't see what Bruce could have done that was sleazy. Not that it would be a shocker if he did, but the timeline of events doesn't really lend itself to any conspiracy theories. Cravens quit on the team right before the season, and Bruce/Snyder moved to put him on the left squad list (and ending his season) right away, as to not create any locker room conflicts or have any extraneous distractions. I'd expect any coach or GM would have done the same thing. Quick guess. Like fully knowing what Su'a Cravens situation was with PCS. But not telling anyone about it, including the player, let him suffer to put him on the left squad list and not pay him? With the guys that are running our show, I could see that... 11 minutes ago, pjfootballer said: Does my "pride as a fan" being injured count? Only if you stop buying redskins gear. Otherwise, nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GoDeep81 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 WTH is Reed's injury anyway? Is it still his sore titty or did he hurt something else? Sheesh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 45 minutes ago, GoDeep81 said: WTH is Reed's injury anyway? Is it still his sore titty or did he hurt something else? Sheesh.. Probably another concussion being labelled as a hamstring injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 hour ago, GoDeep81 said: WTH is Reed's injury anyway? Is it still his sore titty or did he hurt something else? Sheesh.. Torn labia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cskin Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Cut Reed next June. The Redskins need to identify an athletic pass catching, sound blocking TE in the draft that will cause mismatches for opposing defenses. They can't rely on Reed to be that player, and V. Davis can't be relied on to defy age and be a viable alternative. Continue to develop Sprinkle as a possession TE with blocking skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortisBetts Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Are we out of running backs and linebackers yet? Centers are already gone. I don't even know who is on the field anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Wildbunny said: Quick guess. Like fully knowing what Su'a Cravens situation was with PCS. But not telling anyone about it, including the player, let him suffer to put him on the left squad list and not pay him? With the guys that are running our show, I could see that... Only if you stop buying redskins gear. Otherwise, nope. Haven’t bought anything in over 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleese Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 The “buying gear” thing is irrelevant unless you convince all NFL to do it. Just ask Jerry Jones who has fought it many times. Revenue sharing is alive and well on all merchandise. Snyder benefits every time an Aaron Rodgers jersey is sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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