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JSSkinz Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Concerning the tv ads I'm not even sure it matters, what matters is Latin turnout was below 50% last election and the African American vote was down 6% from 2012. I don't think there's an African American or Latin person in this country who needs to see a tv commercial to decide how to vote (except for the more conservative Cubans). African Americans and Latinos can literally carry Joe to the presidency, this is what I would be focusing on and for Joe, he has to win Florida or he's done but he's the one Dem candidate that IMO actually has a very good chance to turn Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 The media bout to pull a "but her emails" part 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, JSSkinz said: Concerning the tv ads I'm not even sure it matters, what matters is Latin turnout was below 50% last election and the African American vote was down 6% from 2012. I don't think there's an African American or Latin person in this country who needs to see a tv commercial to decide how to vote (except for the more conservative Cubans). African Americans and Latinos can literally carry Joe to the presidency, this is what I would be focusing on and for Joe, he has to win Florida or he's done but he's the one Dem candidate that IMO actually has a very good chance to turn Florida. Joe can win the presidency without Florida. He can win PA,MI and either WI or AZ to win the presidency. As I posted earlier, Joe really needs to win big. Florida, Arizona, North Carolina, Pennslyvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Iowa,Georgia, Minnesota, Nevada, Colorado are battlegrounds I can think of. Joe isn't going to win all of those but these seem like the real contested states. Trump thinks he can flip some. I probably should put Virginia in there, as Trump will fight there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said: Joe can win the presidency without Florida. He can win PA,MI and either WI or AZ to win the presidency. As I posted earlier, Joe really needs to win big. Florida, Arizona, North Carolina, Pennslyvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Iowa,Georgia, Minnesota, Nevada, Colorado are battlegrounds I can think of. Joe isn't going to win all of those but these seem like the real contested states. Trump thinks he can flip some. I probably should put Virginia in there, as Trump will fight there. I read the article with the graphic you posted, we can go over all kinds of scenarios but for whatever reason Florida and Ohio seem to set the pace, the historical data shows it, in the last 80 years only 2 Democratic candidates have won the Presidency without winning Florida and a Republican has never won without winning OH. Most likely Joe will run the table in those battlegrounds if he wins OH and FL, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 "Trump hopes enough info will be released by his intelligence appointees to lend a patina of confusion about what Obama may have done, according to people familiar with his thinking." Isn't this what both he and FoxNews do on just about everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, JSSkinz said: I read the article with the graphic you posted, we can go over all kinds of scenarios but for whatever reason Florida and Ohio seem to set the pace, the historical data shows it, in the last 80 years only 2 Presidents have won without winning Florida and a Republican has never won without winning OH. Most likely Joe will run the table in those battlegrounds if he wins OH and FL, IMO. Florida and Ohio are more neccessary for the GOP. Clinton won in 92 without Florida and still would've won without winning Ohio. If Joe could win both that would be great. I think he has better shot at Florida than Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 I think Ohio is only in play in a landslide type situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Virginia isn't going for Trump. The rural counties don't make up for Northern Virginia, Richmond, the Tidewater, and more. Virginia state government turned Blue majority in 2018, and will again this year. The things Trump and Fox are spewing out now reek of desperation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 3 hours ago, JSSkinz said: Most likely Joe will run the table in those battlegrounds if he wins OH and FL, IMO. That's a bit like the old trope about running the ball 30 times means you're going to win a football game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Rufus T Firefly said: 0 Advanced issue found ▲ 1 hour ago, Rufus T Firefly said: That's a bit like the old trope about running the ball 30 times means you're going to win a football game. This shows the last 3 Presidential elections where a Dem won Florida. They went on to pretty much sweep the battleground states. Why does it happen? I don't know but until the data says differently this is what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 What the data says is that if Hillary had gotten a small number more votes in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin she'd have won the election but not Florida. If Biden wins the election narrowly, it's almost certainly without Florida. If he wins Florida, he's probably won the election by a large margin. The odds that Florida is the timing point of this election are very slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 Biden doesn't need Florida to win. Trump does. If Biden wins Florida, it makes it easier for him to win and if he wins Florida; then he's probably done well elsewhere. There's no way Trump can get reelected without winning Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 I'm for believing victims and #metoo. But, man. This looks really bad for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 A con-artist trying to get another con-artist re-elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skinsmarydu Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 That thin packet of paper was 69 pages long. (Yay, a 69 reference.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, skinsmarydu said: (Yay, a 69 reference.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Stop! I'm gettin dizzy, and my vertigo is in drunk mode. 🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 The super duper missile.😂 It's like I'm living in an episode of Tom Goes to Mayor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Not sure if anything is really new here, but it synthesizes the problems in the allegation pretty well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Hmmm...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 This reporter is a true professional. I don't think I could ask about a 'super duper missile' and not burst out laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CousinsCowgirl84 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Sexy grandpa joe.... I almost vomited... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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