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On 8/13/2019 at 10:51 AM, Cooked Crack said:

If cost is your concern then you should be against the death penalty. It's cheaper to go for life imprisonment than capital punishment.

https://www.amnestyusa.org/issues/death-penalty/death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-cost/

 

That's because all the dumb **** we do for executions.  I say bullet to the back of the head, then send the family a bill for the bullet.

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33 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

 

That’s a red flag.

 

 

7 minutes ago, twa said:

can we at least cap the ones like the El Paso shooter?

 

DNA ain't gonna save him.

 

These are more the people I was refering to.  And the Charlotesville guy.  The people where there really is zero doubt.  No need to waste money on them.

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Antifa being a stupid, self-defeating strategy is how fascists get turned into victims. The same exact thing happened in 1920's Weimar Germany with the Communists battling the Nazis in the streets. Let the Nazis cry victim and gave air and relevancy to their movement. 

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17 minutes ago, DoneMessedUp said:

Antifa being a stupid, self-defeating strategy is how fascists get turned into victims. The same exact thing happened in 1920's Weimar Germany with the Communists battling the Nazis in the streets. Let the Nazis cry victim and gave air and relevancy to their movement. 

 

Pretty sure the fascists/Nazis/Klan claim victimhood no matter what happens or who opposes them.

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It sure seems believable to me that the Nazis are going to these places with intent and advance planning to try to provoke people into attacking them. 

 

Which DOES NOT justify people attacking them. 

 

The civil rights movement of the 60s used the same tactic. To pretty good success. So while I don't approve of the Nazi's positions, I cannot attack them for this particular tactic. 

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Portland has become a symbol for violent white nationalists from neighboring rural areas and states to descend upon and intimidate liberal communities. 

 

It isn’t violent leftists going into rural towns and trashing their streets and intimidating conservative leaning residents. It’s entirely a bunch of losers and goons who have made liberal areas like Portland and Berkeley as their stomping ground for inciting violence and rioting.

 

The local city council needs to get a hold of this before something really, really bad happens in Portland. We’ve already had close confrontations between armed groups on the streets.

2 hours ago, DoneMessedUp said:

Antifa being a stupid, self-defeating strategy is how fascists get turned into victims. The same exact thing happened in 1920's Weimar Germany with the Communists battling the Nazis in the streets. Let the Nazis cry victim and gave air and relevancy to their movement. 

 

Antifa is purely reactionary. Typically, when areas and communities are threatened by outsiders coming in specifically for the purpose of inciting violence and spreading fear, a counter-group that engages them directly is likely to form. 

 

It is not excusing them but it’s human nature and the weekend Nazis know this.

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@No Excuses is right.

 

The alt-right playbook is to mobilize in liberal areas in hopes of drawing controversy.  It’s akin to Eagles fans showing up to Fedex during a Redskins/Jaguars game.  They are there simply to antagonize.

 

Another thought:  Trump holds his rallies in mostly conservative areas.  Seems counter to the alt-right rallies.

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4 minutes ago, No Excuses said:

It isn’t violent leftists going into rural towns and trashing their streets and intimidating conservative leaning residents. It’s entirely a bunch of losers and goons who have made liberal areas like Portland and Berkeley as their stomping ground for inciting violence and rioting.

 

I can see different messages, here. Not sure which one(s) you're actually saying. 

 

Are you saying "therefore it's the Nazis fault, cause they were going out of their way to get 'attacked'"?

 

Or "They're going to Portland because they've learned that Portland will do what the Nazis want, and Portland needs to be less inviting (by not giving them what they want)"?

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