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PokerPacker Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 hours ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Well that could be it's own thread. But you don't think that the point of that comparison is to say that they are both equally bad? Really? Come on now. Which would you say is worse? I would have to think the AIDS infested sewage, right? Well in his analogy, that was Clinton so sure... you're right. What he actually said was that Clinton was worse than Trump. The point of the analogy is that the analogies being used a pointless because they hinge upon the world-view of the analogy maker. It does nothing to bridge any gaps in understanding of one another when the analogy is built purely on the premise of ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Predicto said: Alternate view - As long as you are not voting for the only person who has a chance to beat Trump, you actually are supporting Trump. When the primaries are over and the final ballot is printed for the general election, there are two real names on it - Trump and not-Trump. Anyone who doesn't pull the level for not-Trump, or writes in Mickey Mouse, or whatever else... you have just given up on your responsiblity to stop Trump. You do know ya'll are endorsing the logic I used to vote against Hillary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 There can only be one candidate in 2020. The wrong must be righted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, Rdskns2000 said: There can only be one candidate in 2020. The wrong must be righted. Ted Cruz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, twa said: You do know ya'll are endorsing the logic I used to vote against Hillary? Which is why people say you are smart and stupid lol Note: I am not calling you stupid cause that would be against the rules. I'm also not calling you smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Rdskns2000 said: There can only be one candidate in 2020. The wrong must be righted. Sam Beckett? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, Rdskns2000 said: There can only be one candidate in 2020. The wrong must be righted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Riggo-toni Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 18 minutes ago, Rdskns2000 said: There can only be one candidate in 2020. The wrong must be righted. Frank Underwood. Still better than Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, twa said: Ted Cruz? No, that would be worse. It's your love, your purpose in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 So TWA'S history of favorite candidates for the record: Sarah "dumber than a bag of rocks" Palin. Rick "so stupid he has to be naked to count to 21" Perry. Ted "Grandpa Munster" Cruz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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twa Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Just now, Riggo-toni said: So TWA'S history of favorite candidates for the record: Sarah "dumber than a bag of rocks" Palin. Rick "so stupid he has to be naked to count to 21" Perry. Ted "Grandpa Munster" Cruz. ya left out I backed Ron Paul from the start. and every one of them is better than Hillary or Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 1 hour ago, PeterMP said: Why does anybody think Biden would have been a better candidate? He voted against the first Gulf War, voted FOR the Iraq War, publicly admitted that he advised Obama not go after Bin Laden, has a long history of stupid comments, and still has the plagiarism issues that derailed his earlier run at President. https://nypost.com/2015/02/22/maybe-the-media-should-point-out-that-joe-biden-is-a-moron/ He certainly doesn't have a history as a progressive (voted for the credit card company law) to have blunted a Sanders run. #nothillary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Rdskns2000 said: There can only be one candidate in 2020. The wrong must be righted. Evan McMullin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Kilmer17 said: #nothillary Give the Republicans, the Russians, and the fake news merchants a few months to work on him, and you'd be sitting here saying #notbiden. https://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/01/17/wsjnbc-poll-hillary-clinton-exits-with-69-approval-rating/ **EDIT** Hillary's approval ratings where higher than Biden's. https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/joe-biden-favorable-rating You really believe Americans would have elected the guy that publicly admitted that he advised Obama not to go get Bin Laden? Especially after voting against the 1st Gulf War. That's crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Not that it matters now, but I didn’t vote for Hillary but would have voted for Biden. Also, where is the WW3 (or Cold War 2) thread at? There is serious **** going on in the world that doesn’t concern Trump, and he won’t concern himself with it because he’s a damn puppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Quote This portrait of the Trump administration in turmoil is based on interviews with 19 presidential advisers and administration officials, many of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to offer candid perspectives. The mood inside the White House in recent days has verged on mania, as Trump increasingly keeps his own counsel and senior aides struggle to determine the gradations between rumor and truth. At times, they say, they are anxious and nervous, wondering what each new headline may mean for them personally. But in other moments, they appear almost as characters in an absurdist farce — openly joking about whose career might end with the next presidential tweet. Some White House officials have begun betting about which staffer will be ousted next, though few, if any, have much reliable information about what is actually going on. Quote McMaster is not the only senior official on thin ice with the president. Veterans Affairs Secretary David Shulkin has attracted Trump’s ire for his spending decisions as well as for general disorder in the senior leadership of his agency. Others considered at risk for being fired or reprimanded include Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson, who has generated bad headlines for ordering a $31,000 dining room set for his office; Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt, who has been under fire for his first-class travel at taxpayer expense; and Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, whose agency spent $139,000 to renovate his office doors. Meanwhile, Education Secretary Betsy DeVos drew attention this week when she stumbled through a pair of high-profile television interviews. Kelly watched DeVos’s sit-down with Lesley Stahl of CBS’s “60 Minutes” with frustration and complained about the secretary’s apparent lack of preparation, officials said. Other Trump advisers mocked DeVos’s shaky appearance with Savannah Guthrie on NBC’s “Today” show. Kelly’s own ouster has been widely speculated for weeks. But two top officials said Trump on Thursday morning expressed disbelief to Vice President Pence, senior advisers and Kelly himself that Kelly’s name was surfacing on media watch lists because his job is secure. Trump and Kelly then laughed about it, the officials said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/trump-decides-to-remove-national-security-adviser-and-others-may-follow/2018/03/15/fea2ebae-285c-11e8-bc72-077aa4dab9ef_story.html?utm_term=.1b53c43df467&__twitter_impression=true Quote Several candidates have emerged as possible McMaster replacements, including John Bolton, a former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, and Keith Kellogg, the chief of staff of the National Security Council. Kellogg travels with Trump on many domestic trips, in part because the president likes his company and thinks he is fun. Bolton has met with Trump several times and often agrees with the president’s instincts. Trump also thinks Bolton, who regularly praises the president on Fox News Channel, is good on television. Some in the White House have been reluctant to oust McMaster from his national security perch until he has a promotion to four-star rank or other comfortable landing spot. They are eager to show that someone can serve in the Trump administration without suffering severe damage to their reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 To be fair: Quote According to Noh, during her three-day visit to Washington from Thursday, Kang will also meet with U.S. Deputy Secretary of State John Sullivan, who is serving as the acting secretary following the dismissal of Rex Tillerson, to discuss pending issues between Seoul and Washington, including the North Korean nuclear issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said: There can only be one candidate in 2020. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 12th Commandment Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, visionary said: That's really one of the more disturbing developments lately. I know there are a lot of others but that just sounds so un-American. The Presidents unelected, unappointed...unanything daughter meeting with a top level foreign representative in a region where they're talking of war. Maybe it's the wine I had at dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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