Predicto Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I always love how when something crazy happens, the reaction on here is to make the state of residence a big factor unless it's new York, California or the snobby parr of va. Go home son. You done left your corn squeezins unguarded. Completely irrelevant, but not surprising considering how the media operates. Irrelevant and downright mean. In other words, typical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBNG Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 From one who works with gorillas... https://www.facebook.com/amanda.odonoughue/posts/1203379586363094 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grhqofb5 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 The gorilla was killed because of white privilege- black lives matter. Gotta be the onion.... Right? No, I think its more or less a "news" site reporting statements from random people on twitter and facebook. So it's completely meaningless unless you're one of those people who care what random idiots on twitter and facebook say. But hey, that's news today, and proves my gift for predicting the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I think the major flaw, is what's risked for the entertainment aspect, which I would assume does most of the funding. I don't see zoos as entertainment as much as I see them as educational. Aquariums and such...sure. Sometimes. Yet, I agree pretty much with what Jumbo posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I don't see zoos as entertainment as much as I see them as educational. Aquariums and such...sure. Sometimes. Yet, I agree pretty much with what Jumbo posted. I don't think the value of being able to see a living creature in an unnatural setting, in a cage, is very educational. It's purely entertainment."Look kids, there's an endangered species, bred to captivity, alone in a fake setting that it's never allowed to leave". Where's the education? Why is that an education? If the welfare of the animal were the primary consideration, along with education, which I do think is important, they wouldn't be breeding them for captivity. The gorilla was killed because of white privilege- black lives matter. Gotta be the onion.... Right? guy I'm working with right now, black guy from NY. He says "you hear about that gorilla? Sad. I assumed it was a white kid, cause y'all do **** like that. Hope that doesn't sound racist, but now that I know it was us, I'm kinda pissed" ols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I'm kinda curious here... How much does the situation change if it was a drunken frat-boy who stumbled into the Gorilla habitat instead of a toddler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 kb, Ask why they are bred for captivity ? Ask why they can not be released back into their natural habitats ? You know these answers, and neither is for entertainment. I'm kinda curious here... How much does the situation change if it was a drunken frat-boy who stumbled into the Gorilla habitat instead of a toddler? You know the answer to that also. It would be essentially a non-story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I don't know why they're bred for captivity. I'll assume because they're endangered, but being the last gorilla, but living your entire life in a cage, isn't preservation, it's sad and cruel. There are sanctuaries and ways to release animals back to their natural habitat. That a falling myth. It's one of the reasons SeaWorld was able to keep the orcas for so long, until they've seen them free growing old and creating families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I'm kinda curious here... How much does the situation change if it was a drunken frat-boy who stumbled into the Gorilla habitat instead of a toddler? None in my eye, because I wouldn't let the gorilla kill him either. Outside looking in, this looks like a kid almost getting killed being a kid by a gorilla being a gorilla at the wrong damn time. I've only seen snip-its of convo about what can be done to keep any human from falling into that situation again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 No, I think its more or less a "news" site reporting statements from random people on twitter and facebook. So it's completely meaningless unless you're one of those people who care what random idiots on twitter and facebook say. But hey, that's news today, and proves my gift for predicting the future.Everyone uses random angry people now. Bernie got killed over angry voicemail and tweets following the Nevada debacle. No one cares that the reported violence never happened, because angry random people said angry stuff. If you are on the same side as THEM, you must be just like them and just as crazy. These internet racists are very useful. How do you guys feel about the dad's criminal history being posted online? Relevant or irrelevant?Dangerous and unnecessary bullying by the media that is all too happy to give an angry mob a target in exchange for ad revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I don't know why they're bred for captivity. I'll assume because they're endangered, but being the last gorilla, but living your entire life in a cage, isn't preservation, it's sad and cruel. There are sanctuaries and ways to release animals back to their natural habitat. That a falling myth. It's one of the reasons SeaWorld was able to keep the orcas for so long, until they've seen them free growing old and creating families. Tricky question then. Why should we bother saving endangered animals then ? Sea World assimilated those animals. Completely different overall environment also. Jungle animals and sea animals are not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Not to mention habitats size vs animal size are way different when compared to SeaWorld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I'm kinda curious here... How much does the situation change if it was a drunken frat-boy who stumbled into the Gorilla habitat instead of a toddler? Is the frat boy white or black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Tricky question then. Why should we bother saving endangered animals then ? Sea World assimilated those animals. Completely different overall environment also. Jungle animals and sea animals are not the same. I understand they're different, but jungle animals are reassimilated all the time.I think we should save endangered animals, but not to live artificially. I think the main goal should be assimilation to nature. This is where I go on and on about what we're doing to reduce their natural habitat. I do think it's more important to preserve their natural habitat and let the population naturally regrow. Not to mention habitats size vs animal size are way different when compared to SeaWorld.if you could never leave a 10,000 square foot mansion, wouldn't it begin to feel like a prison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Go home son. You done left your corn squeezins unguarded Your mom is fine by herself for a few minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 So you agree with survival of the fittest ? Perhaps these animals are not meant to survive ? Perhaps some of them should have been extinct. Many, if not most of these animals can not survive in their natural habitat after being saved, so all we do (or at least try to do) is try to breed them to further their existence at all. You have to accept both sides of this situation/reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Is the frat boy white or black?Well he's probably not from Lambda Lambda Lambda, if you know what I mean Seriously, though, from a take-action stand point, do you think they might've gone tranq first or still straight to the lead? So you agree with survival of the fittest ? Perhaps these animals are not meant to survive ? Perhaps some of them should have been extinct. Many, if not most of these animals can not survive in their natural habitat after being saved, so all we do (or at least try to do) is try to breed them to further their existence at all. You have to accept both sides of this situation/reality. How much of that is because of our encroachment into their habitat and ruining the ecosystem to which they'd adapted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Well he's probably not from Lambda Lambda Lambda, if you know what I mean Seriously, though, from a take-action stand point, do you think they might've gone tranq first or still straight to the lead? From what i read, tranq takes 10 minutes or so and on that ten minutes the potential to go ape **** is very high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 No problem, it's the worst kept secret in NoVA. Glad your daughter liked it and I'm always amazed by how much food kids can put away. You make Peruvian chicken at home? I'm impressed. He's from Tennessee, he actually just grabs it at KFC on the way home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 From what i read, tranq takes 10 minutes or so and on that ten minutes the potential to go ape **** is very high.Well that's not very useful, now, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeesburgSkinFan Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Spot on. This same mentality has given us riots in Ferguson and Baltimore as well as propping up Donald Trump. http://www.vox.com/2016/5/31/11818858/harambe-gorilla-michelle-gregg-mob-justice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 if you could never leave a 10,000 square foot mansion, wouldn't it begin to feel like a prison? That is a great argument since I am the exact same thing as an ape. By the way, go let that potted plant out to be free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 That is a great argument since I am the exact same thing as an ape. By the way, go let that potted plant out to be free!Well since you put it that way, you're right, every animal except Humans love confinement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passepartout Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Humans do not matter as it is the animals. At least they do not talk back like humans do. Only good thing with humans vs animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 That is a great argument since I am the exact same thing as an ape. By the way, go let that potted plant out to be free!humans are pretty close to apes. But if you actually think animals, especially some of the most intelligent are closer to plants than people, then there is no possible way to communicate to you why your comment is idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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