Bacon Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Unforgiven?! Wow, your credibility in assessing westerns has been completely gutted with that one word. Oh sure, it was popular with the critics, but a great western it was not. Tombstone is a flabby Hollywood approximation of a western with an unnecessary love story and one great character (Doc Holliday) and you're giving Unforgiven a hard time? There's a reason it won Best Picture. Clint knows what he's doing with westerns. That movie works from the inside out, examining the motivations of the broken men underneath all the dirt and grit. Aesthetically, it doesn't FEEL like my favorite westerns, but it's one of the few that really breaks my heart. What a great performance from Clint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Que ridiculo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I'd have to look them up because I've avoided anything with the guys name on it since I moved out of my parents house where my sister forced me to sit through over a dozen of his horrible movies. Mostly his 80s and 90s stuff. Nothing after that. So hold up, you haven't seen the 70s stuff? Annie Hall, Manhattan and Zelig are awesome. I like Purple Rose of Cairo too, even though it's a little on the cloying side. Woody Allen isn't for everyone, but I like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Woody Allen is weird as ****. I dont ever actively try to watch any of his movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chew Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Woody Allen is weird as ****. I dont ever actively try to watch any of his movies. No,snobbery, but you're missing out on some seriously funny stuff. Not all of his movies were funny, but the ones that were...Holy Toledo. Not that they're apples to apples, but Woody Allen was like Larry David.....before Larry David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Sleeper is fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Larry David is much better than Woody Allen. Â Allen just has more of a cult following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 So hold up, you haven't seen the 70s stuff? Annie Hall, Manhattan and Zelig are awesome. I like Purple Rose of Cairo too, even though it's a little on the cloying side. Woody Allen isn't for everyone, but I like him. The man makes me want to magically leap into his movies and kick his ass while screaming "shut up shut up shut up!" I doubt that missing a handful of 70s movies is going to make a person that I find so infuriatingly annoying, less so. I stand by my dislike of his unfunny annoying little whiney man comedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Sorry for participating in the derailment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I'd have to look them up because I've avoided anything with the guys name on it since I moved out of my parents house where my sister forced me to sit through over a dozen of his horrible movies. Mostly his 80s and 90s stuff. Nothing after that. Couldn't agree more. Seen a lot of his '70s films. Kept hearing about his legendary status, kept giving him a chance.I just don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Certainly someone I won't sit back and say...what a great movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 Tombstone was really good...finally understand what "I'm your huckleberry" means lol. Kilmer nailed the role, definitely. When Ringo told him at the end that he was just joking about "playing for blood"...  Ringo: "I was just foolin' around..." Doc: (long pause) "...I wasn't."  That was ice-cold lol...Ringo's expression said "Ohhhh, ****."  Kurt Russell had his moments, too. His "Tell 'em the law's coming...tell 'em I'm coming!...and Hell's coming with me!" even had me saying "Alright, alright!...Damn!" lol  The love story, though...blech. Dana Dalany was dull as toast, horrible acting...and the storyline was useless.  Overall, though, enjoyable watch.   The Big Lebowski is next... *thumbsup* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Glad you enjoyed it Califan, both are great movies. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Cali...you realize what he is saying when he says "Daisy" as well right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Unforgiven?! Wow, your credibility in assessing westerns has been completely gutted with that one word. Oh sure, it was popular with the critics, but a great western it was not. So then don't watch it as a Western. Watch it as a love story. Â http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-great-love-stories-in-movies-guys_p2/ Â Â #1. Western:Â Unforgiven... Then there's Eastwood's character, Will Munny -- reformed alcoholic, widower and struggling farmer trying to raise his kids. We hear he was a notorious outlaw, but there's no trace of it in his demeanor. He travels the movie fairly unimpressively, showing no particular talent for killing until his friend Ned is murdered and displayed outside the saloon/brothel where the prostitute was brutalized. Munny enters the hostile room of Little Bill and approximately 20 others with his gun drawn and ... wins. He does everything the movie spent two hours explaining couldn't be done. He kills five men, clears the room and remains unscathed. Â "So where's the love story, Gladstone?" you ask, and for a moment I'm confused, because I assume you're my wife. But anyone watching the movie has to notice that despite it being all about Munny and cowboys and killing, it starts and ends with narration about Munny's now deceased wife: She was a comely young woman and not without prospects. Therefore it was heartbreaking to her mother that she would enter into marriage with William Munny, a known thief and murderer, a man of notoriously vicious and intemperate disposition. And at the close of the movie: Some years later, Mrs. Ansonia Feathers made the arduous journey to Hodgeman County, Kansas, to visit the last resting place of her only daughter. William Munny had long since disappeared with the children ... some said to San Francisco where it was rumored he prospered in dry goods. And there was nothing on the marker to explain to Mrs. Feathers why her only daughter had married a known thief and murderer, a man of notoriously vicious and intemperate disposition. That's the whole love story right there. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Speaking of love stories... Logjammin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportjunkie07 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Brent can't watch; he has to pay $1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 That's marvelous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Unforgiven won Oscars and has better rottentomatoes than either of the movies mentioned.I was sold such a bill of goods for TGL that I was disappointed in the film. I expected much more.  *edit* I just saw it a couple of months ago. It's a little dated so that affects my judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 The Big Lebowski was effin' hilarious lol ...Jeff Bridges was phenomenal. Â It had me at this scene lol (slightly nsfw - language): Â Â Â Â "It's down there somewhere, lemme take another look..." Â Â Â Was disappointed in Julianne Moore's performance, though. She's one of my all-time favorites and she didn't do a very good job here imo. Goodman was crazy...good crazy lol. Sam Elliott's moustache deserved co-star billing. Â Â One more scene that had me rollin' lol... Â Â Â Â All I could thihk is "My God, this guy is an idiot lol" (again, but in a good, cool way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Coolest idiot of all time! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The Big Lebowski was effin' hilarious lol ...Jeff Bridges was phenomenal.Before every scene, Jeff Bridges would go up and ask the Coens if The Dude lit up a a joint before the scene. If the answer was 'yes', he'd vigorously rub his eyes to get them red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Before every scene, Jeff Bridges would go up and ask the Coens if The Dude lit up a a joint before the scene. If the answer was 'yes', he'd vigorously rub his eyes to get them red. Just take a bong rip jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSilverMaC Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Ok.... So... You've seen them both now, and seem to have liked them both. Which one should you have watched first so the other side can criticize your obvious lack of taste? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Glad to see the OP enjoyed both movies. Most of us said they're both good. Fun thread. We could get a few more pages out of it if the OP weighs in on the debate though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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