Some More Cops Who Need to Be Fired

[Destino]

The fact that people are arguing about if they should show ID, or have to, or when they should or shouldn't is evidence of a problem.  One that we've discussed here before. There shouldn't be any gray area in what amounts to routine interactions with police.  The government needs to do a better job of educating the public on exactly what the rules are.  It's insane to do otherwise when the consequences can be anything from a minor arrest (which by itself can show up on background checks), criminal charges, or physical harm.  Death isn't entirely out of the question either, as we have seen. 

 

 

 

 

[PokerPacker]

12 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

How is your personal freedom under attack when you show your ID to a police officer during a lawful stop?

define "lawful stop".  I swear every time I hear the word "lawful", it's code for "because the police decided so".

[China]

Officers rewarded for use of force with steakhouse gift cards, former Williamson deputies say

 

Williamson County sheriff’s office leaders rewarded deputies who used force on the job with steakhouse gift cards, according to two former employees, one of whom made the admission to Texas Rangers investigating the agency’s aggressive tactics.

 

Among the deputies who received gift cards to places such as Logan’s Roadhouse were J.J. Johnson and Zach Camden, the officers involved in the March 2019 death of Javier Ambler II. Officers used their Tasers on the Black 40-year-old father four times as he gasped that he had a heart condition and could not breathe.

 

In a recorded interview with Texas Rangers, former deputy Christopher Pisa said Cmdr. Steve Deaton rewarded deputies he considered “WilCo badass.”

 

“They had the intention that we were all ‘WilCo badass’ and, if you went out there and did your job and you had to use force on somebody and he agreed with it, then you would get a gift card,” Pisa said in an audio recording obtained by the American-Statesman.

 

Former Sgt. Troy Brogden, who resigned from the department in 2019, corroborated Pisa’s claim and told the Statesman that Deaton gave the cards “for what he considered good uses of force.”

 

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[CousinsCowgirl84]

1 hour ago, PokerPacker said:

define "lawful stop".  I swear every time I hear the word "lawful", it's code for "because the police decided so".

 

There, you have your answer.

A lawful stop is subjective. You wouldn’t get into an argument with a homeless guy about what the bird said to him yet you want to get into an argument with an angry dude with a gun over your ID. Either way your likely to get **** thrown in your face or worse, so why bother?

Edited September 19, 2020 by CousinsCowgirl84

[PokerPacker]

24 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

 

There, you have your answer.

A lawful stop is subjective. You wouldn’t get into an argument with a homeless guy about what the bird said to him yet you want to get into an argument with an angry dude with a gun over your ID. Either way your likely to get **** thrown in your face or worse, so why bother?

Your argument is that police can do what they want because they have a gun.  Yes, we understand they are currently able to get away with literal murder.  And THAT NEEDS TO END!  This isn't a ****ing tyranny.  Get the **** out of here with that nonsense.

[CousinsCowgirl84]

2 minutes ago, PokerPacker said:

Your argument is that police can do what they want because they have a gun.  Yes, we understand they are currently able to get away with literal murder.  And THAT NEEDS TO END!  This isn't a ****ing tyranny.  Get the **** out of here with that nonsense.

nope. My argument is that being asked to show an ID isn’t worth arguing about. There is no downside for you. There is only downside if you don’t show it.

Edited September 19, 2020 by CousinsCowgirl84

[PokerPacker]

Just now, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

nope. My argument is that an ID isn’t worth arguing about.

You asked for a reason to not give your ID to cops.  That reason is freedom.  Now you've moved the goalposts to whether or not freedom is worth the hassle of standing up for.

[CousinsCowgirl84]

5 minutes ago, PokerPacker said:

You asked for a reason to not give your ID to cops.  That reason is freedom.  Now you've moved the goalposts to whether or not freedom is worth the hassle of standing up for.

 

 

I heard you, I asked you how it constrains your freedom.

 

 

and again?

 

Edited September 19, 2020 by CousinsCowgirl84

[PokerPacker]

 

Just now, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

I heard you, I asked you how it constrains your freedom.

Freedom of privacy.  We are not NAZI germany where the Gestapo stops you on the streets and asks for your papers.  The right to go about your life unmolested.

[CousinsCowgirl84]

Just now, PokerPacker said:

 

Freedom of privacy.  We are not NAZI germany where the Gestapo stops you on the streets and asks for your papers.  The right to go about your life unmolested.

Wow. Being asked to show an ID is remotely similar to Nazi germany. Maybe you should hitch a ride with Desean and check out the National Holocaust Museum....

[PokerPacker]

1 minute ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

Wow. Being asked to show an ID is remotely similar to Nazi germany. Maybe you should hitch a ride with Desean and check out the National Holocaust Museum....

I've been to the Holocaust Museum, thank you.

[Destino]

https://apnews.com/46c4fd4d66ec927d3ceaabdca73dd675
 

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PRESCOTT VALLEY, Ariz. (AP) — Police on Monday justified the use of an attack dog on a suspect who appeared on a police body cam video to be complying with officers. 
 

The Prescott Valley Police Department said in a statement that the use of the canine was necessary during the May arrest because Alfredo Saldivar, 28, who allegedly had been driving erratically and at high speeds, hesitated before obeying orders to stand up.

 

The video has been gaining attention online since its release late last week.

 

The video shows Saldivar starting to stand up when ordered by an officer when the Belgian Malinois runs over and grabs him. Saldivar immediately screams in agony, yelling “Please stop the dog!”

 

 

you don’t need to watch the entire video, the first 2 minutes or so will do the trick.  Warning graphic with lots of unsettling screaming as the cops let their dog bite this guy for no reason. 

[visionary]

 

[China]

NYC Police Officer Accused Of Spying On Tibetan Immigrants For Chinese Govt.

 

NEW YORK (AP) — A New York City police officer was charged Monday with spying on Tibetan immigrants in the United States as an “intelligence asset” for the Chinese government.

 

A criminal complaint filed in Brooklyn federal court accuses Baimadajie Angwang of working as an agent for the People’s Republic of China. It says he was secretly supervised by handlers from the Chinese consulate in New York.

 

Angwang’s job was to “locate potential intelligence sources” and “identify potential threats to the PRC in the New York metropolitan area,” court papers say. He also was expected to provide consulate officials “access to senior NYPD officials through invitations to official NYPD events,” they add.

 

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[purbeast]

 

 

[China]

Officer Hit By Bullet During 'Ambush' Actually Shot Himself, Say Police

 

Apolice officer who claimed he was shot during an ambush actually shot himself, his department said following an investigation.

 

John Michael Goulart Jr., an officer in Pineville, Louisiana, is accused of having "altered the facts" after shooting himself on Sunday, the police department said.

 

Goulart said he had been shot once in the leg, with a second bullet hitting the rear door of his police car, while he was at a shopping center in the city.

 

On Monday, Deputy Chief Darrell Basco, the Pineville Public Information Officer, said the officer had come under fire after being "ambushed."

 

Local news station KALB-TV quoted Basco as saying: "There were shots fired at the officer. The officer didn't return fire on anybody. He was exiting the patrol vehicle at the shopping center whenever he was ambushed by an unknown person at this time and two shots were fired. One striking him, and the other hit the vehicle."

 

However, on Tuesday the department announced that an investigation had "led to a determination that the officer shot himself, concealed and altered the facts."

 

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[NoCalMike]

Ok is anyone here bold enough to justify that police dog being released on that guy?  The justification was "because he stood up too slow?"   He was comply with every single thing they asked and was standing up.  Then the dog attacks and they tell him to go back on the ground. WTF.....that should be grounds for immediate termination, a lawsuit and possible assault charges. 

[PokerPacker]

22 minutes ago, NoCalMike said:

Ok is anyone here bold enough to justify that police dog being released on that guy?  The justification was "because he stood up too slow?"   He was comply with every single thing they asked and was standing up.  Then the dog attacks and they tell him to go back on the ground. WTF.....that should be grounds for immediate termination, a lawsuit and possible assault charges. 

But it won't.  Woo, America.

[CousinsCowgirl84]

1 hour ago, China said:

Officer Hit By Bullet During 'Ambush' Actually Shot Himself, Say Police

 

 

 

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Damn. Not only has he been outed as a dirty cop, but also as an idiot. I don’t even own guns and I know it’s pretty cursory to match bullets to the gun they came from.... 

Edited September 24, 2020 by CousinsCowgirl84

[Simmsy]

1 hour ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

Damn. Not only has he been outed as a dirty cop, but also as an idiot. I don’t even own guns and I know it’s pretty cursory to match bullets to the gun they came from.... 

Maybe he didn't care? A sheriff a couple of month ago faked an ambush a few miles from me, I don't get the reasoning behind this thinking.

[China]

Pa. cop went on $5,500 tire-slashing tirade after being denied booze at restaurant: state police

 

The off-duty cop accused of slashing tires on the very streets he patrols is finally facing charges weeks after being caught on video during the incident.

 

As PaHomePage reports, Pittston police officer Dion Fernandes was charged with felony criminal mischief for allegedly causing $5,543.21 in damages in the tire slashing tirade on Main Street last month.

 

According to the state police arrest affidavit, Fernandes lashed out after being denied alcohol at a downtown restaurant on August 29.

 

The charges come weeks after the incident was caught on video, but state police tell PaHomePage they brought the counts after positively identifying Fernandes in the security camera footage.

 

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[PokerPacker]

4 hours ago, Simmsy said:

Maybe he didn't care? A sheriff a couple of month ago faked an ambush a few miles from me, I don't get the reasoning behind this thinking.

Drum up sympathy from the public.

[China]

You can't make this stuff up:

 

Court hearing: Man charged with assault after breaking Ozark cop's hand ... with his face

 

A Branson man has been charged with assault after an Ozark police officer broke his hand punching the man in the face several times.

 

Matthew Calhoun, 48, is facing the felony assault charge in Christian County in connection with a Dec. 14 encounter outside of a convenience store.

 

At a preliminary hearing Tuesday, Calhoun's defense attorney Stacie Bilyeu called it ridiculous to charge her client with using his face to cause "serious physical injury" to an officer's fist.

 

Janette Bleau, assistant Christian County prosecutor, argued the other side, saying Calhoun's aggressive behavior put the officer in a position where he had to defend himself and that resulted in the injury.

 

Ultimately, Judge Douglas Bacon chose to move the assault charge on to trial court, while dismissing a different felony resisting arrest charge.

 

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[Jumbo]

i know the leo that's the centerpiece of the article is retiring in days so doesn't need to be fired, but felt it still qualifies by thread title and deserves mention

 

https://news.yahoo.com/louisville-police-major-allegedly-said-224223651.html

 

Louisville police major on antifa and BLM: 'They will be the ones washing our cars'

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The Louisville, Kentucky, Metro Police Department is looking into a derogatory email a police major sent to her colleagues in August that said people who are part of antifa and the Black Lives Matter movement are "punks" who are not important, a spokesman said. The email was written by Maj. Bridget Hallahan, who commands the police department's Fifth Division. Hallahan, 47, confirmed to NBC News on Thursday that she sent the email and said fellow officers have been supportive. She also said she retires in six days.

 

Phillip Bailey, a journalist in Louisville, tweeted screenshots of the email Tuesday evening. He said it had been provided to him by an unnamed law enforcement source.

A police spokesman, Sgt. Lamont Washington, said the department was made aware of the email and is looking into it. He said police "have no other comment to offer."

 

The email begins by saying: "I know it is hard to keep our thoughts and opinions to ourselves sometimes, especially when we, as a whole or as an individual, become the target of people in the public who criticize what we do without even knowing the facts.

 

"These ANTIFA and BLM people, especially the ones who just jumped on the bandwagon 'yesterday' because they became 'woke' (insert eye roll here), do not deserve a second glance or thought from us," it continues. "Our little pinky toenails have more character, morals, and ethics, than these punks have in their entire body."

 

"Do not stoop to their level. Do not respond to them. If we do, we only validate what they did. Don't make them important, because they are not. They will be the ones washing our cars, cashing us out at the Walmart, or living in their parents' basement playing COD for their entire life."

 

"COD" refers to the video game "Call of Duty."

 

Hallahan goes on to say, "If you need to **** about it and get it off your chest, come to my office and we can vent together." She also claimed that officers "are being doxed merely because people just don't like being told what to do or what not to do by police."

 

Hallahan's email was met with backlash, some of it from Louisville residents.

 

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Screenshots of Hallahan's email were posted to Twitter the same day an email from one of the wounded officers at the center of the Taylor case, Sgt. Jonathan Mattingly, surfaced. In the email, Mattingly apologized to his fellow officers and their families, defended his actions during the raid of Taylor's home and said Mayor Greg Fischer and others "failed all of us in epic proportions for their own gain and to cover their asses."

 

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[Destino]

On 9/24/2020 at 8:47 PM, Simmsy said:

Maybe he didn't care? A sheriff a couple of month ago faked an ambush a few miles from me, I don't get the reasoning behind this thinking.

Same reason people fake hate crimes I’d imagine.  It advances a cause they favor gets them a bunch of attention.  People will lie about everything you can imagine if they think it might benefit them.  Anyone that says otherwise is a fool or a liar.