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IN-DEPTH: Atlanta’s violent summer coincides with officer exodus

 

Nearly twice as many officers have left the city of Atlanta force this year compared to 2019, internal documents reveal. Many, like Gaither, said they felt underappreciated both by their bosses and city leadership.

 

At the same time, the number of murders in the city is up 40% this year from the same point in 2019. Shootings have risen 29%; aggravated assaults, 8%, APD records show.

 

Police departments in Chicago, Minneapolis and Seattle are also reporting significant personnel losses. And, as in Atlanta, violent crime in those cities has increased.

 

According to APD, there are currently 1,623 officers on the streets (with 110 recruits in training), a total nearly as low as any seen in the past two decades. For longer than that, city leaders have aspired to reach 2,000 officers on the force, operating under the theory that more cops on patrol equals less crime.

 

But the shortage of cops alone is not responsible for Atlanta’s rise in violent crime, says one expert.

 

“The general climate in the Atlanta Police Department right now is one of uncertainty about the rules of engagement,” said Dean Dabney, chair of Georgia State University’s Department of Criminal Justice and Criminology. “First you had the two college kids that got tased. The officers were fired and charged with aggravated assault, at which time the DA’s office stipulated that a Taser is a deadly weapon. Then you flash forward to the (Rayshard) Brooks shooting, and you have an instance where the DA’s office says a Taser is not a deadly weapon.”

 

Six officers were charged, and two fired, following the aggressive arrests of Spelman College junior Taniyah Pilgrim and Morehouse College senior Messiah Young on May 30.

 

Jason Segura, head of Atlanta’s police union, said officers had been instructed to strictly enforce a curfew imposed in response to isolated looting during protests of police killings of Black civilians. But the treatment of the students, who were stunned with Tasers and handcuffed, drew widespread condemnation.

 

Then on June 12, Brooks was fatally shot by Atlanta police officer Garrett Rolfe after fleeing arrest and grabbing another officer’s Taser. Rolfe, since fired, was charged with felony murder and 10 other counts. The other officer on the scene, Devin Brosnan, was charged with aggravated assault and three violations of oath of office. Both incidents were caught on video, bringing national scrutiny to the APD.

 

A vast majority of their colleagues, many of whom participated in a walkout after Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard brought charges against Rolfe and Brosnan, said in each instance the officers were merely following their training. Now, they worry: If it can happen to those officers it can happen to us, Segura said.

 

“People aren’t going to risk their jobs, or risk indictment, just because the mayor or DA has suddenly decided what they did was a crime,” he said. Howard was recently defeated in a landslide by Fani Willis, his former chief deputy prosecutor, who was endorsed by the police union.

 

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5 cops, dispatcher get $2.45M settlement in harassment case featuring a dildo, claims of homophobia

 

Five Mountainside police officers and a part-time department employee will share a $2.45 million settlement after alleging workplace harassment and bullying.

 

The accusations — including repeated displays of a dildo named “Big Blue,” pranks involving nudity, a homophobic barb known as the “gazer game,” racial slurs and other misdeeds — were aired in a May 2018 lawsuit against Mountainside.

 

While only the borough was named as a defendant, many of the allegations in the lawsuit focused on two now-former Mountainside police officers, Lt. Thomas Murphy and Detective Sgt. Andrew Huber.

 

The lawsuit also charged that former police chief James Debbie — who was Mountainside’s administrator in 2018 — and then-Borough Police Chief Allan Attanasio were aware of various alleged misdeeds but took no action to intervene.

 

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31 minutes ago, clietas said:

The President not condemning white supremacists is exactly why the police and their unions like him. 😉 

 

Its hard not to see it this way with cops shooting black people for sport these days. And getting away with it. 

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Detective who appeared to mock Seattle protesters hit by car faces possible termination

 

A King County Sheriff's Office detective in Washington state faces possible termination over offensive Facebook posts, including one where he appeared to mock a Seattle protester who was killed and another who was injured after they were hit by a car.

 

The detective, Mike Brown, was placed on leave in July and an internal investigation was launched over the social media posts. One image posted on July 4 showed a vehicle hitting a group of people with the caption "All lives splatter" and "Keep your (expletive) off the road."

 

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Judge dismisses 3rd-degree murder charge against Derek Chauvin

 

A judge has dismissed a third-degree murder charge against Derek Chauvin, one of four former Minneapolis police officers charged in the death of George Floyd.

 

Hennepin County District Judge Peter Cahill also ruled Chauvin’s second-degree murder and manslaughter charges will remain. His ruling was dated Wednesday and made public Thursday.

 

Cahill said there was enough probable cause for the second-degree murder charge and manslaughter charge against Derek Chauvin to proceed to trial. Cahill also denied defense requests to dismiss the aiding and abetting counts against three other former officers, Thomas Lane, J. Kueng and Tou Thao.

 

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Capy said an employee was fired for writing ACAB, which stands for All Cops are ****s, on the bottom of a coffee cup served to a police officer and long-time customer of the cafe after another employee drew a pig on the officer’s cup in an earlier incident. Both were offered a “path” to return to work, which involved apologizing to the officer.

The employee who wrote ACAB didn’t feel comfortable doing so, Capy said, “so we weren’t able to reinstate that person.”

 

https://www.reformer.com/local-news/mocha-joes-staff-pickets-over-wages-service/article_7f521f6a-16ba-11eb-908c-c79d5d3e697e.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=user-share&fbclid=IwAR2-0X6Ghqz9BH6AsdVVcS-g5fX-e4cFGAjlgkI8XqZMj0CT5OVywpZAfxA

 

Wasn't sure where to put this but this thread seemed like the most appropriate (thought about putting it in one of the trump threads)

 

This is a local story for me but I could see it going national with only a week to go before the election especially if trump gets wind of it.

 

This is where the far left goes too far, these people are hurting their own cause by doing the same thing they're protesting against. 

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said:

'm not seeing the part where the "Far Left" comes in, here

You don't think this is political?

You don't see how writing "all cops are ****s" on a police officers coffee or drawing a pig on an officers coffee could be construed as an over reaction by the far left?

 

Sounds like you're choosing not to see it.

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18 minutes ago, redskinss said:

You don't think this is political?

You don't see how writing "all cops are ****s" on a police officers coffee or drawing a pig on an officers coffee could be construed as an over reaction by the far left?

 

Sounds like you're choosing not to see it.

 

Reading through the article, this seems like a classic labor dispute (not really about politics per se, though one party has a better history of favoring workers rights versus stuffing the pockets of the filthy rich business owners).

 

Now you have an incident regarding several employees leaving disparaging remarks about a police officer(s) calling them pigs and ****s... Again, not really political. If you actually keep your ear to the ground about hatred of the police/violence toward the police, it's pretty much a well balanced hate, by people and groups all across this country. So, again, not seeing where the "Far Left" came from.

 

Then you go from taking a seemingly nothingburger (in terms of what's going on in this country) labor dispute,  with cops caught in the middle, to saying how this is apparently going to overshadow the protests and outrage going on in this country, involving police brutality and killing with impunity, amongst police depts scattered all over this country, targeted towards minorities.

 

Not to mention the political system that not only refuses to hold them accountable, but has effectively stamped out any real hope of change in police ranks, with the only hope now being completely vored out. Centuries of beatings, killings, framing, intimidation, fraud, and now outright trolling on duty. All of that is what is being protested.

 

Now... How is that supposed to be overshadowed by this random encounter between two employees and some cops in a coffee shop???

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9 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said:

Now... How is that supposed to he overshadowed by this random encounter between two employees and some cops in a coffee shop???

I didn't say any of that, you did.

All I suggested is that this story is something that could go viral if the right picks up on it with only a week to go before the election. 

 

And for the record I agree with everything you posted, I just don't think what these employees did was acceptable. 

 

But to suggest calling police officers pigs or saying all cops are ****s isn't political is just being deliberately obtuse.

 

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1 minute ago, redskinss said:

I didn't say any of that, you did.

All I suggested is that this story is something that could go viral if the right picks up on it with only a week to go before the election. 

 

 

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This is a local story for me but I could see it going national with only a week to go before the election especially if trump gets wind of it.

 

This is where the far left goes too far, these people are hurting their own cause by doing the same thing they're protesting against

 

Far Left, check

 

Hurting your own cause by doing the same thing they are protesting against (which, funny enough, in this case, would be fair wages, which has nothing to do with the Police)

 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/overshadow

 

Overshadow - to cast a shadow over; to exceed in importance/outweigh.

 

Used in this context, it would mean the actions of protesters protesting  police brutality and corruption and systemic racism in police depts for ages), would be overshadowed/outweighed, by  a couple knuckleheads who wrote "Pig" to an officer in a coffee shop...

 

Sure sounds like what you said ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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19 minutes ago, redskinss said:

And for the record I agree with everything you posted, I just don't think what these employees did was acceptable. 

 

But to suggest calling police officers pigs or saying all cops are ****s isn't political is just being deliberately obtuse.

 

 

These two statements cant both be true. If you agree with what I said, then you recognize  that:

 

1) The ongoing police protests don't cover Fair Wage disputes

 

2) This officer really did nothing to my knowledge to deserve being called pig, or being lumped in with officers whose actions are being protested against 

 

3) Hatred of police is not political. When you go in many rural areas in this country, you can be shot on sight for just having a uniform, being an arm of the tyrannical govt. Again,  Police are hated for different reasons

 

***** Also, careful calling someone obtuse when you cant even post this non-issue in the correct thread to start with. 👍

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34 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said:

3) Hatred of police is not political. When you go in many rural areas in this country, you can be shot on sight for just having a uniform, being an arm of the tyrannical govt. Again,  Police are hated for different reasons

 

Thank you. Its extremely short sighted to assume that "I dont like police" = "far left". Anti government/law enforcement has been a staple of the far right for much much longer.  All these crazy white people with guns training in facilities just incase has been a thing lonnnng before they were focused on BLM and Antifa. 

 

Also 

 

1 hour ago, redskinss said:

All I suggested is that this story is something that could go viral if the right picks up on it with only a week to go before the election. 

 

Seriously who cares. Hunter Bidens math failed test could go viral tonight. It means nothing. 

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20 minutes ago, Llevron said:

 

Thank you. Its extremely short sighted to assume that "I dont like police" = "far left". Anti government/law enforcement has been a staple of the far right for much much longer.  All these crazy white people with guns training in facilities just incase has been a thing lonnnng before they were focused on BLM and Antifa. 

 

Been stacking cop bodies for generations, and across Nowhere, USA, they have so much firepower that local PD basically throws up there hands, effectively rendering those areas lawless. Hardly ever gets talked about tho

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