grhqofb5 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 His level of grace lasted..... what? 8 hours or something? I don't put Lance in the same category as Johnson, mainly because it's cycling and everyone cheats because if you don't cheat, you will actually die and the sport is stupid. But Johnson was only famous for about a day because he was juiced to the gills and the minute he was caught, he became a mediocre runner again. I just thought he was an interesting mention. Perhaps the greatest "spike" in relevance following by the bottom falling out. Relatively irrelevant to "fastest human being to ever walk the face of the earth "to disgraced drug using villian in about 48 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I think for me it's Pete Rose. I believe he belongs in the HOF as a player. I still have the scars from learning to slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger.Staubach Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Does A-Rod belong in any way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wysknz1 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I'll second Pete Rose. Locally, I'll add Albert Haynesworth though his scumminess isn't really on the national radar. for you "locals" how about Timmy Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Gotta be OJ. Armstrong, Rose. In that order. But I'd add Denny McLain art schlichter, Lenny dykstra, as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkeyBoy Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Biggio is already in Might wanna double check that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWolf990 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Barry Bonds is the greatest baseball player we have all ever seen. And Joe Paterno is a great choice. His image will never be rehabbed. Whenever you say Joe Paterno, you have to mention pedophilia and child sex abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 OJ Lance Armstrong Pete Rose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Man, I feel good, my opinion got backed up by LKB, Predicto, and all the finest people! OJ Lance Armstrong Pete Rose Seriously, it's these three and no one else is close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Kirk Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 OJ Rose Paterno Armstriomg Nobody else is close. Word on tiger: his indiscretions in the end didn't cause a great fall from grace. It cost him his marriage. But he rebounded to play pretty well, kept his largest endorser, and started dating Lindey Vonn. His biggest problem is that he's no longer the best golfer around. Which has more to do with injuries than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balki1867 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Pete Rose bet on his own team to win, so that doesn't seem SO bad to me. Sorry, I just can't have any sympathy for Pete Rose. First off, the rule on betting on baseball is the one thing that is posted in every MLB locker room -- it's that central to the sport. Second off, betting on your team to win is still a big deal. Baseball is a long season and even the best teams typically lose more than 1/3 of their games. If Rose was using pitchers who shouldn't have been available to pitch on those days, then he was putting players' careers at risk for his own personal interests. Finally, Rose didn't just bet on baseball. He lied about it for years after it happened. All he had to do for reinstatement was admit to what he'd done and he couldn't do that. He reapplied for reinstatement multiple times knowing this and tried to garner sympathy and make MLB look like the bad guy. And when he did finally admit to it, it came as he was promoting his autobiography and going on a book tour. I've heard he's shown more remorse recently for his actions, but I'd be far more forgiving if he'd been open and honest and dealt with this ~25 years ago rather than draw it out in the most egotistical way possible. I tend to agree with you on Shoeless Joe, although I'm not as familiar with the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 My list based on age and what I have witnessed first hand. 1. Lance Armstrong 2. Tiger Woods 3. O.J. 4. A Rod 5. Gilbert Arenas Aw, Gilbert. for you "locals" how about Timmy Smith. What did Timmy Smith do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balki1867 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 What did Timmy Smith do? Did he even make the '88 Redskins roster? The last I read he was driving a bus in Denver of all places. CORRECTION: He's not a bus driver, but a bus dispatcher. And it is at the Denver airport (as of 2009) http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2013-01-21/super-bowl-heroes-where-are-they-now-ickey-woods-butch-johnson-chuck-foreman/slide/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadium-Armory Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Tiger won 5 tournaments last year and will probably win more. He will be in the hall of fame in 3 years. I wouldn't consider that to be of Armstrong or OJ like proportions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Did he even make the '88 Redskins roster? The last I read he was driving a bus in Denver of all places. CORRECTION: He's not a bus driver, but a bus dispatcher. And it is at the Denver airport (as of 2009) http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2013-01-21/super-bowl-heroes-where-are-they-now-ickey-woods-butch-johnson-chuck-foreman/slide/7 Ah, I get it. Well at least his fall from grace was only about football. I was thinking he committed a crime or did something embarrassing off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balki1867 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Ah, I get it. Well at least his fall from grace was only about football. I was thinking he committed a crime or did something embarrassing off the field. I think he did. He spent some time in jail ~10 years ago for something drug-related. I don't know if he'd fall under the 'fall from grace' category though. He had one incredible game in his career. It just happened to be a Super Bowl. The story I've read is that Gibbs knew all week that Rodgers wouldn't be able to play. He told the veterans that Smith would be getting the carries but never told him because Gibbs didn't think Timmy Smith could handle the buildup to the game mentally. So it turns out Gibbs had Smith pegged exactly right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Cops: Lance Armstrong Hit Two Parked Cars, Girlfriend Took Blame http://deadspin.com/cops-lance-armstrong-hit-two-parked-cars-girlfriend-t-1683535095 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 12th Commandment Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Any last shred of dignity that Armstrong had is now gone. He's a freakshow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Just read this thread again, it reminds me why I don't care about the HOF in any sports. Pro Bowl, All Star games... All BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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