TradeTheBeal! Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 The ship be sinking in Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Beyond their ownership of the Bullets. The Cavs are just so damn unlikable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'emAlive Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Pretty shocking move. Dude got them to the finals in his first year and has them atop the east again this year. Hes a decent coach. Definitely getting a raw deal here. Im with Warhead; I'd take Blatt over EG/Witt any day of the week. So does the Josh Smith signing mean Montiejunas is done in Houston? What happened to him? He's a 7 footer who can hit the three. Is it his defense or consistency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I don't really like the NBA and rarely watch but I was very surprised to see three playoff teams last year that were not in the conversation this year. New Orleans was good with Anthony Davis last year. Then they got swept and fired their coach. Somehow they're not playing well this year. I don't understand. Portland is perennially good and has a young star in Lillard. They are not playoff team right now. I don't understand Milwaukee is a decent team with Jason Kidd doing a good job last year. They are not playoff team right now I don't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Sucks for Blatt. I do think he's a good coach Xs and Os wise but was never really empowered to run the team in Cleveland. I think he'll be a fine coach somewhere else. In fact if I'm the Wiz I fire Grunfeld and hire Blatt at season's end. Why can't John Wall do it? All the power's in the player's hands now in this league, just have Wall fire Wittman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I don't agree (but I do think it is close and if Wall had been chosen over Lowry, I would have no beef with it). So who do you think is a better PG than Wall in the East? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Portland is perennially good and has a young star in Lillard. They are not playoff team right now. I don't understand Milwaukee is a decent team with Jason Kidd doing a good job last year. They are not playoff team right now I don't understand Portland lost a star in Lamarcus Aldridge (went to the Spurs) and best shooter Wesley Matthews (Mavs). Milwaukee replaced Brandon Knight with Carter Williams, hasn't worked. They have talent but no shooting so their team is just a bad mix. Jason Kidd still has a lot to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornaSkinsFan83 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I don't agree (but I do think it is close and if Wall had been chosen over Lowry, I would have no beef with it). Bay Area crack that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 So who do you think is a better PG than Wall in the East? Kyle Lowry. No one else (and it's close). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Lowry getting in ahead of Wall isn't terrible and it's not the least bit surprising. He is having a better year and plays for a better team. Plus, he got a boost in all star voting from loyal Canadians Bieber and Drake. Wall on the other hand is on a team below .500 team and who is out there hustling up votes for him? Wale. lol case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Bay Area crack that good? Zach Lowe is my favorite NBA writer. Here's Zach Lowe's picks for who should be the starters for the all star game: Lowry and Jimmy Butler, with Wall as a reserve. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14598808/who-deserves-represent-their-conference-nba-all-star-game Here's an article where 10 SBNation writers posted their picks for who should be the NBA starters. Every single one picked Lowry and Jimmy Butler, with Wall as a reserve. http://www.sbnation.com/2016/1/21/10790452/nba-all-star-game-2016-picks-predictions Sports Illustrated picked Lowry and Butler, with Wall as a reserve http://www.si.com/nba/2016/01/20/nba-all-star-starters-stephen-curry-lebron-james-kevin-durant-toronto Dime magazine picked Lowry and Butler, with Wall as a reserve http://uproxx.com/dimemag/our-eastern-conference-all-star-roster-will-make-you-realize-how-silly-fan-voting-is/ 4 out of 5 CBS sports writers picked Lowry and Butler - one picked Wall and Butler http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25455218/nba-expert-all-star-picks-forget-fan-vote-heres-how-lineups-should-look As far as I can tell, everyone must be smoking crack. Well, everyone except for Wizards fans and one out of 18 NBA writers. Edited January 23, 2016 by Predicto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Lowry is having a better season and his team definitely is, but he's not better than Wall. Wall ate his lunch in the playoffs last year and put to bed any doubt about who was better. It was a punking. I think that Lowry is a better fit in Toronto than Wall would be, but if you swapped them, Toronto would still be a top three team in the conference. But we'd be a dumpster fire if we had Lowry at PG instead of Wall. We absolutely depend on a PG with as expansive a game as Wall just to tread water as a .500 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Why can't John Wall do it? All the power's in the player's hands now in this league, just have Wall fire Wittman Because even if that's the "in thing", its not the "right thing". I'm my head, this is bad look for Lebron and becomes a part of his career history pattern now. He'll never get what he says he wants (more rings) because he seems he wants to play for yes-men HCs. Fine you didn't get along with Blatt, but Tyronn F'n Lue? Multi-Year contract? Edit: Also, whoever said Luke Walton should go to LA, I like your style. It's getting kinda boring watching the Lakers suck like this, doesn't feel right. Edited January 23, 2016 by Renegade7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 Anyone catch this #WOJBOMB last night? How David Blatt never stood a chance with LeBron James and his camp Lebron is one of my favorite players ever, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I wasn't enjoying the sabotage job that's going on in Cleveland. Him and Dan Gilbert are perfect for one another. On top of it all, all the conflicts of interest between James, Paul, and Klutch is just a perfect storm of ego and EXACTLY why they (Cavs) won't win ****. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonez3 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Man, is Steph Curry the greatest shooter of all time? This question from die hard Celtics fan and Bird fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 Man, is Steph Curry the greatest shooter of all time? This question from die hard Celtics fan and Bird fan. Without question. I would go back and forth on this a few years back, because I just needed to see more from Curry, but he's unreal. I'm not willing to say he's a top-5/10 PG all time (yet), but as far as shooting...he's the best ever. Mid-range, 3 ball, FTs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Man, is Steph Curry the greatest shooter of all time? This question from die hard Celtics fan and Bird fan. Yes, I don't think it's debatable anymore either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornaSkinsFan83 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Well...at least Lue has cut the braids and he doesn't look like a chick anymore. Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Anyone catch this #WOJBOMB last night? How David Blatt never stood a chance with LeBron James and his camp Lebron is one of my favorite players ever, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I wasn't enjoying the sabotage job that's going on in Cleveland. Him and Dan Gilbert are perfect for one another. On top of it all, all the conflicts of interest between James, Paul, and Klutch is just a perfect storm of ego and EXACTLY why they (Cavs) won't win ****. Wow. If you haven't read that, click the link. Normally I'd write most of that off as conspiracy theory nonsense but with Woj's name on it, it's harder to just dismiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Lebron cares more about his brand than winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Well that's an intolerable situation. David Griffin's job is tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) If you are the Cleveland franchise and Gilbert you pretty much just have to suck it up and take it. You sold your soul to the devil to get The King back for your business, city and fans. Just deal with it. Even if he never wins a title he will come closer than any other sad sack Cleveland sports team has in decades Lebron cares more about his brand than winning. I don't think that's accurate. I just believe that he thinks he knows how to win, coach and build a team better than others. Edited January 23, 2016 by Momma There Goes That Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveakl Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 The spin coming from ESPN is hilarious. Multiple articles about how LeBron was NOT involved and it was more on Blatt. LeBron definitely cares a ton about his brand AND getting paid (so that he can buy the cavs one day) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 The whole Rich Paul/Klutch relationship with Lebron is screwy to begin with. What other franchise would allow this to go on? A current player who's best friend represents players on the team? Lebron was sending not-so subliminal shots to Dan Gilbert this summer during the Tristan Thompson negotiations. Just not cool at all. Yea...Thompson got his $, and is one of the more grossly overpaid players in the league, but the ball (no pun) was in Lebron's court as he could say/do whatever he wanted b/c he knew Gilbert would cave. The Cavs are a complete mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Yeah they're a mess. The roster is full of assholes and Dan Gilbert is a clown. He's as much a part of the problem as any of their players or coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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