addicted Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 "My fantasy team lost because of (insert name here) Did they under perform?" Seriously bro if you bothered to watch the game you wouldn't have posted this If you knew anything about us rushing against the Giants in the past you wouldn't have posted this If you didn't have a bone to pick with THT you wouldn't have posted this and "forgot" to leave out his yardage catching the football which left him 3 yards shy of 100 combined THT league wide is tied for 11th best overall in rushing yards Seriously hell no he didn't under perform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I'm guessing you were not able to see the game and could only go on stats sans the TD run. No he didn't. He drew alot of attention from the Giants defense which helped us when it came to using the play action pass. I will make a very strong effort not to strongly disagree with people who are more concerned about fantasy football stats than wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Man Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Nope, we had to show we were committed to the run, and we did. It wasn't about his stats it was about the results, Rex took advantage of the Giants stacking the line and threw the hell out of the ball. Team performance trumps individual every time. Gold Star. Go to the front of the class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portis for 6 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Solid game. not great. The O-line which is well documented in this thread needs improving, which we all figured would. There were many times that Hightower got hit in the back field yet he powers his way through for a 2 or 3 yard gain. Hightower IMO is best described as an "all purpose back" so about 100 yards of total offense is not to bad for a week 1 WIIN. :logo: HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 His stretch runs, even the ones for little gain, made the Giant defenders engage with OL for a maximum amount of time. Even the CBs were being blocked trying to set up cut back lanes. Making the D work for every play makes the passing game a little easier. It's normal to say the D should be well conditioned, but the truth is even a step slower is often the difference between covered and open. The extra step is also an extra step's worth of time for Rex, and he was hit a lot any way. In DC, we've been spoiled by RBs who could block. In fack, every RB we've featured at the beginning of a year since Terry Allen has been able to block. In truth, I think that's why we saw so little of the other RBs. Hightower is the better blocker, so if you are going to pass, it is better to have him in the game. Since he is the best runner as well, he was in a lot, and our offense was better for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Not reading the whole thread up to this point, but to answer the question... no, he didn't. He over-performed in preseason. Will he have games like in the preseason? Sure, but we can't expect that every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkFan8 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 The Giants appeared to be stacking the box and we FINALLY had a QB that could take advantage of it. Hightower's gonna be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I think Hightower looked about the same as he did in Arizona. Solid, but unremarkable. I'd like to see Torain get more snaps because his style wears defenses down more. Tim would benefit in the 2nd half from Ryan's bruising style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hdf561 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 The guy is not Adrian Peterson, but he is exactly what we need at the RB position....he is a tough runner, who can catch, block, and put the ball in the endzone....he did all of those things yesterday....Tim Hightower is the reason the pass game opened up, he turned losses into 3 yard gains....thats crucial in the NFL....and most importantly he wants to be a Redskin, he is from Arlington and played his college ball in RVA....He turned in a B+ performance that with a few more blocks could have been an A+ the dude is gonna be our workhorse all season and he is going to produce, I doubt he will be a league leader in any particular catagory btu he WILL win us some games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 No. The Giants were clearly stacking the box and also run-blitzing. Hightower was getting hit in the backfield before he even had time to get back to the LOS. The Giants were determined to stop the run, and Hightower did just enough for them to respect the run throughout the game. We obviously took advantage of that with Grossman and our passing attack. FWIW, I think the Giants strategy would have worked had they not had so many injuries to their defense. They probably would have been able to pressure Grossman even more, while simultaneously stuffing the run. Personally, I would like to have seen more screens and slants from Kyle to slow the pass rush, but what the heck do I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Personally, I would like to have seen more screens and slants from Kyle to slow the pass rush, but what the heck do I know? Could be a lack of confidence in the screen game itself. Which is why its hard for onlookers to really pass judgement on a lot of the stuff we see in football games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsCrushCowboys Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I thought he had several plays where he made nice cuts and positive yardage. The Giants were loading up front. By doing so it opened up the quick passing game for us. I think it was a solid game for him. He does not beed 100 yards every game to make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCClybun Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Could be a lack of confidence in the screen game itself. Which is why its hard for onlookers to really pass judgement on a lot of the stuff we see in football games After a season of "please add more screens for me Kyle, I know they can win!" bull from McNabb (not to mention the fact that they didn't work in either game last year), it wasn't too shocking. It's hard to screen game a team that's as fast as the Giants can play, unless you're the Eagles and your team is twice as fast as even that. I think it was more impressive that Giants were so committed to stopping Hightower that they essentially sold out their banged up secondary to stop him from breaking one against them. Eventually I thought they'd drop back and play more coverage, but they didn't. They didn't want to risk Hightower getting hot. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect example of why sometimes, yards and stats don't bear out the importance of having one player on the field. Though he did get me some tasty fantasy points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 You weren't sold on trading a 35 yr old journey man DL that would have been cut and a conditional late round pick for a 25 year old STUD running back? Really? I didn't say I wasn't sold on the trade. I said I wasn't sold on Hightower. Please do me the courtesy of carefully reading what I post. I didn't think Hightower could be a full-time (or near full-time) running back. He's starting to change my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel__44 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I didn't say I wasn't sold on the trade. I said I wasn't sold on Hightower. Please do me the courtesy of carefully reading what I post.Here is your quote..."I wasn't sold on Hightower at the time of the trade but he's slowly proving his worth." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 For those moaning about the stretch play, here's your clue. It's a staple of the Shanny run game. The purpose is to gas the D so that late in the game, the RB will be able to break off runs for chunks of yardage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJD2 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 It ain't pre-season anymore. Our O-line was just OK. He didn't put the ball on the ground and he did enough to keep the Gnats D honest. The team got a W. Success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFanCTT Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I'm guessing you were not able to see the game and could only go on stats sans the TD run.No he didn't. He drew alot of attention from the Giants defense which helped us when it came to using the play action pass. I will make a very strong effort not to strongly disagree with people who are more concerned about fantasy football stats than wins. I saw every single play here in CT and I applaud the effort but I saw 7 runs go for 0 or negative yards. and another half dozen go for 1 or 2. IF we lost the game all we would be talking about is the ineffectiveness of the running game, that was one sweet W though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallsux Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 What did you guys think of his performance against the Giants? 25 rushes, 72 yards, 2.9average, 1TD I thought it was pretty underwhelming, a 2.9 average isn't going to cut it, but some of the blame has to be put on our offensive line who were pretty inconsistent throughout the game. Maybe it's just me, but I was expecting a huge day from him against a beat up Giants defense. Really? :doh: I thought the Skins played a pretty great game against a team that has dominated us for the last several years & they did it convincingly. They weren't perfect, by any stretch of the imagination, but they were good enough to make it a comfortable win with 6 minutes left in the game. There's a lot to learn still. And personally, I feel that I haven't felt this good about a Redskins win for a very long time. I don't think there was much of an underperformance anywhere on the field. The only thing we didn't have happen in our favor was a PR or KR for a TD. Hightower did his job. I'm happy with the results, stats don't mean much to me. :giantsuck: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 It wasn't the yards that mattered, it was the commitment to the run. The Giants loaded up the box and forced Grossman to beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 It's not a great game, but he was at least able to carry the rock a lot. At the end of the day, this is Tim Hightower we are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Full Monty Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 It wasn't the yards that mattered, it was the commitment to the run. The Giants loaded up the box and forced Grossman to beat them. That's how I see it - I think the Giants were selling out hard on the run, the safeties were creeping up on early downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Wingman Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 It wasn't the yards that mattered, it was the commitment to the run. The Giants loaded up the box and forced Grossman to beat them. thats the advantage we have this year. teams dont think grossman can cut it, so they focus on stopping the run and put pressure on grossman. once they start focusing on grossman, the running game will come to life. edit: forgot to hit on the main point of this thread. tim hightower did a fine job, he did the best he could with what he had, and he didnt turn the ball over. if you think he underperformed, your crazy. hes not gonna rush for 5+ yards a carry and 100+ yards every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus'skins Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Quite frankly I was impressed by his effort. I never saw him give up and just go down on any play. He ran hard each time he had the ball. And let's not forget his touchdown saving tackle on the fumble. Without his effort it would have been a very different game in the fourth quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigricky3469 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 You know sometimes when you show the same play so many times (think preseason) teams are going to figure you out, however, smart teams know how to make this work in their benefit. You have to believe that the Cards saw what we did against the Giants and what we were able to accomplish during the preseason, but they also saw Big Sleepy, Rex and a fine passing attack too. They are going to have to decide which poison to take next week. I think we will be balance with Sex Rex throwing for 230 and team rushing of 150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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