CNN: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway; shooter fires at youth camp

[jpyaks3]

Looks like he had ties to a bunch of right wing groups throughout Europe, notably the English Defense League, who attacked a mosque in Lutton following the Oslo attacks.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/23/norway-attacks-utoya-gunman?cat=world&type=article

Anders Brehing Breivik, the man accused of the murder of at least 91 Norwegians in a twin bomb and gun massacre, boasted online about his discussions with the far right English Defence League and other anti-Islamic European organisations.

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The disclosure of Breivik's claimed links with other far right organisations came as details emerged about the rightwing Christian fundamentalist and freemason behind Norway's worst post-war act of violence.

It was revealed that the 32-year-old former member of the country's conservative Progress Party – who had become ever more extreme in his hatred of Muslims, left wingers and the country's political establishment – had ordered six tonnes of fertiliser in May to be used in the bombing. While police continued to interrogate Breivik, who was charged with the mass killings, evidence of his increasingly far right world view emerged from an article he had posted on several Scandinavian websites, including Nordisk – a site frequented by neo-Nazis, far right radicals and Islamophobes since 2009.

The Norwegian daily VG quoted one of Breivik's friends saying that he had become a rightwing extremist in his late 20s and was now a strong opponent of multi-culturalism, expressing strong nationalistic views in online debates.

Breivik had talked admiringly about conversations he had had with unnamed English Defence League members and the organisation Stop the Islamification of Europe over the success of provocative street actions leading to violence.

"I have on some occasions had discussions with SIOE and EDL and recommended them to use certain strategies," he wrote two years ago.

"The tactics of the EDL are now to 'lure' an overreaction from the Jihad Youth/Extreme-Marxists, something they have succeeded in doing several times already." Contacted about the allegation by email by last night the EDL had not answered.

[scruffylookin]

Shocker. Right wing religious conservative hunter has such a lack of respect for any life. Color me surprised.

Let's watch as he is dismissed as a mad man and the ideology that is shared by this guy by thousands of others is swept under the rug like it was done here after Oklahoma City.

Right wing Christian terrorists are no better than the right wing Islamic terrorists responsible for 9-11.

[SkinsHokieFan]

He wrote a 1400 page Islamaphobic/anti leftist book and called for a new crusade

http://www.sharepdfbooks.com/3TZOU0V52W6B/2083_-_A_European_Declaration_of_Independence.pdf.html

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=no&sl=no&tl=en&u=http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/innenriks/gjerningsmannen-la-ut-video-og-manifest-paa-nettet-3545104.html

The offender let out the video and manifesto on the Web

The video and the document should have been uploaded on the web a few hours before the bomb went off in downtown Oslo.

TV 2 know that the 32-year-old terror accused Oslo man has confessed to having published the material on the web. There are sources in the police confirming this to the TV 2

Anders Behring Breivik (32) Prior to the attacks, published a long manifesto and a video on the Internet, where he describes the attacks he was about to perform.

Both the video and the document is apparently published online on Friday 22 July - the day the attacks occurred.

"Marxist Hunter"

It is about more than twelve minutes long video, which Behring Brevik compare themselves with Knights, and encourage a year-long war against Marxism and Islamism.

He has also published a manuscript of 1,500 pages which he explains very extreme political views. In addition, he describes in detail how an attack to be carried out. Everything from the use of the car bomb of the type of equipment to be used in an attack.

On an image that has not previously been known pose the seemingly Anders Behring Breivik in a diving suit with what looks like an automatic rifle. On his shoulder he has a badge that says "Marxist Hunter."

In the document, which is over 1500 pages the author elaborates on events throughout history and will repeatedly return to the Knights Templar, or Knights Templar as they say in English.

Today, the Knights Templar, an order within the Masonic movement, which also Anders Behring Breivik was a member of. He will now be excluded from the Masonic Order.

Link for more

[NavyDave]

What? People have been killing for Jesus for a long, long time. Religion is responsible for tons of wars and the Christians are no saints.

The Godless have been murdering for a long long time as well. Nowadays the godless sugar coat genocide by claiming to be "prochoice."

[oisn1]

No they don't fight like soldiers but those among the whiny want them to be treated like soldiers when they are captured.

Oslo was one of my favorite liberty ports when My ships did a North Atlantic Cruise back in the day.

My condolences to those hurt and murdered by the Anti Bacon and dress your women in burlap sacks demographic.

It is still a religion of peace, Allegedly.

Hmmmm, I'm sure NavyDave is typing an apology as we speak. I mean it's horrible that everyone just assumed that Muslims were behind this, but at least we can apologize for our bigoted preconceptions.

[Destino]

His extreme views are found in his solutions (as sadly is now obvious). The problems he saw however are actually common political views. His belief that multiculturalism is a Marxist plot to destroy European culture for instance. We've seen that very same argument made here in immigration debates. He saw everything left as Marxism and look at the camp if young people he targeted. If the video attributed to him is in fact his, he seemed to like with Knights Templar images from the crusades which brings in his Christian component.

It's rumored that there is a 1500 page manefesto out there but I haven't seen it confirmed that he wrote it.

[NavyDave]

Shocker. Right wing religious conservative hunter has such a lack of respect for any life. Color me surprised.

Let's watch as he is dismissed as a mad man and the ideology that is shared by this guy by thousands of others is swept under the rug like it was done here after Oklahoma City.

Right wing Christian terrorists are no better than the right wing Islamic terrorists responsible for 9-11.

Hurray. Finally Liberal Progressives, apparently have a strawman from the right to point a collective finger at since all of the previous mass murderers and terrorists were obviously far left. And the lame attempt to not claim the Terrorist who hide behind the religion of peace is laughable when even two watt light bulbs know the idealogy they embrace outside of the violence is Socialism.

[HailGreen28]

Shocker. Right wing religious conservative hunter has such a lack of respect for any life. Color me surprised.

Let's watch as he is dismissed as a mad man and the ideology that is shared by this guy by thousands of others is swept under the rug like it was done here after Oklahoma City.

Right wing Christian terrorists are no better than the right wing Islamic terrorists responsible for 9-11.

Agreed. People on both "sides" of left-right, should stop making excuses for scum like this. This stuff should be indefensible.

[SkinsHokieFan]

The video

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=89a_1311444384

[Predicto]

Hurray. Finally Liberal Progressives, apparently have a strawman from the right to point a collective finger at since all of the previous mass murderers and terrorists were obviously far left. And the lame attempt to not claim the Terrorist who hide behind the religion of peace is laughable when even two watt light bulbs know the idealogy they embrace outside of the violence is Socialism.

Cognitive dissonance at its finest.

"no true Scotsman...."

"Everything bad that happens is 'far left' everything good that happens is 'conservative'"

"Hitler was a socialist..."

You are a piece of work, my friend.

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[Hunter44]

You are a piece of work, my friend.

He's just a hater...

Many forget what their own religion says. "They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)"

[abdcskins]

I hate religion so much. Can we just get rid of it? There is no good use for it. Just allows people to emphasize differences. And differences are like, such a horrible thing.

I co-sign what Predicto just said.

[FanboyOf91]

This manifesto has some first-class lunacy:

8. After the transitional period has ended

We will reform our democratical model from a “mass-democracy model” to a model more

resembling the Russian system of administered democracy. The patriotic tribunal will

remain as a guardian council after the transitional period has ended. Their primary tasks

and roles will consist of the following:

- The national military command, the patriotic guard and the police forces will all be

under the direct and full control of the of the guardian council and not the

government. However, the government will have the right to decide just about

any other matter with only a few exceptions.

- The guardian council will prevent hardcore Marxists/cultural Marxists from once

again infiltrating the various sectors of society.

- The guardian council will ensure that the suicidal humanists and capitalist

globalists do not misuse their influence in a way that significantly undermines the

country or the people.

- The guardian council will ensure that the nation maintains a fertility rate of at

least 2,1. If the government fails to reach this target, the guardian council may

implement any and all measures necessary in order to reach sustainability.

- The guardian council will ensure that monocultural and cultural conservative

doctrines are enacted.

- The guardian council may veto any resolution but should under optimal

circumstances never have to exercise this right.

3.6 Explanation of the European Civil War - Phase 1, 2 and 3

Phase of Dialogue, 1955-1999

- From the creation of EU’s Eurabia project in combination with the implementation of

cultural Marxism (European multiculturalism) in 1955 to the NATO bombing campaigns of

Serbian forces in 1999 authorised by criminal Western European and US leaders.

European Civil War, Phase 1 – 1999-2030

- Islam, 2-30% based on country

- Open source warfare, military shock attacks by clandestine cell systems.

- Further consolidation of conservative forces.

European Civil War, Phase 2 – 2030-2070

- Islam, 15-40% based on country

- Consolidation continues, more advanced forms of resistance groups.

- Preparation for pan-European coup d’états.

European Civil War, Phase 3 – 2070-2083

- Islam, 30-50% based on country

- Pan-European coup d’états. Cultural Communism/multiculturalism defeated in the first

European country followed by the rest.

- The implementation of a Cultural Conservative political agenda begins.

- Execution of cultural Marxist/multiculturalist category A and B traitors initiated.

- Deportation of Muslims initiated.

Pauperes commilitones Christi Templique Solomonici – PCCTS

(the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of

Solomon), the Knights Templar was re-founded in London in

2002 by representatives from eight European countries, for

the purpose of serving the interests of the free indigenous peoples of Europe and to fight

against the ongoing European Jihad (referred to as the “third Jihad”). The Knights

Templar was re-founded as a pan-European nationalist military order and a military/

criminal tribunal with two primary objectives. The order is to serve

as an armed Indigenous Rights Organisation and as a Crusader

Movement (anti-Jihad movement).

The founding session (two meetings consisting of 4 founding

members and host as a security precaution) was held in London,

United Kingdom – Apr, 2002.

Founding (re-founding) members:

Anonymous 1 - Nationality: English Protestant (Host)

Anonymous 2 - Nationality: English Christian atheist

Anonymous 3 - Nationality: French Catholic

Anonymous 4 - Nationality: German Christian atheist

Anonymous 5 - Nationality: Dutch Christian agnostic

Anonymous 6 - Nationality: Greek Orthodox

Anonymous 7 - Nationality: Russian Christian atheist

Anonymous 8 - Nationality: Norwegian Protestant (member and proxy for 9)

Anonymous 9 - Nationality: Serbian Orthodox (by proxy, location: Monrovia, Liberia)

Unable to attend:

Anonymous 10 – Nationality: Swedish

Anonymous 11 – Nationality: Belgian

Anonymous 12 – Nationality: European-American

Apparently, Europe has until January 1, 2020 to surrender or they'll start launching attacks on nuclear power plants.

[luckydevil]

Some of writings are very similar to what Pamela Geller or Robert Spencer would write.

[Destino]

I hate religion so much. Can we just get rid of it? There is no good use for it. Just allows people to emphasize differences. And differences are like, such a horrible thing.

Do you even realize how contradictory your post is? This notion of solving problems by getting rid of differences is misguided and short sighted.

---------- Post added July-24th-2011 at 12:33 AM ----------

Hurray. Finally Liberal Progressives, apparently have a strawman from the right to point a collective finger at since all of the previous mass murderers and terrorists were obviously far left. And the lame attempt to not claim the Terrorist who hide behind the religion of peace is laughable when even two watt light bulbs know the idealogy they embrace outside of the violence is Socialism.

I don't speak NavyDave but is he saying Islamic extremists are leftists?

[Mickalino]

I don't speak NavyDave

ES is working on acquiring an interpreter

[Destino]

This manifesto has some first-class lunacy:

Apparently, Europe has until January 1, 2020 to surrender or they'll start launching attacks on nuclear power plants.

I don't think governments can afford to write it off. He's claiming to have started a terrorist organization in 2002 named Knights Templar with reps from many European nations and an American according to your quote. His manifesto contains a terrorism "how to" guide.

[Mickalino]

I don't think governments can afford to write it off. He's claiming to have started a terrorist organization in 2002 named Knights Templar with reps from many European nations and an American according to your quote. His manifesto contains a terrorism "how to" guide.

And he'll be no older than 53 when he gets out of jail, in order to attempt to complete his mission.

[abdcskins]

Do you even realize how contradictory your post is? This notion of solving problems by getting rid of differences is misguided and short sighted.

I was deliberately exaggerating to make the point that fanatics use religion to serve their own personal crusade. It is worthless gobbly gook.

[Lil Kenzo]

Regardless of race, religion or political beliefs...this is just another reminder of the terrible world that we live in. This is a story of one man murdering 87 people. I couldnt careless what in the hell he believes in, what God he praises, political beliefs, what country he lives in, his skin color, age etc. Hes a sick individual who took the lives of 87 loved people...all of which were important to their families and friends. All im trying to say here is that people pay too much attention to the things that dont matter. My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims families, they didnt deserve to have their lives cut short and taken from their familes.

[Mickalino]

Regardless of race, religion or political beliefs...this is just another reminder of the terrible world that we live in. This is a story of one man murdering 87 people. I couldnt careless what in the hell he believes in, what God he praises, political beliefs, what country he lives in, his skin color, age etc. Hes a sick individual who took the lives of 87 loved people...all of which were important to their families and friends. All im trying to say here is that people pay too much attention to the things that dont matter. My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims families, they didnt deserve to have their lives cut short and taken from their familes.

True dat. If religion was such a big issue with violence, there would be whole lot more massacres than this. It takes a sick individual to start with, for something like religion or whatever else to influence him to do such a thing.

The only thing we can truly tie this with, or put the blame on, is Kato Kaelin, since the dude looks just like him.

[twa]

Regardless of race, religion or political beliefs...this is just another reminder of the terrible world that we live in. This is a story of one man murdering 87 people. I couldnt careless what in the hell he believes in, what God he praises, political beliefs, what country he lives in, his skin color, age etc. Hes a sick individual who took the lives of 87 loved people...all of which were important to their families and friends. All im trying to say here is that people pay too much attention to the things that dont matter. My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims families, they didnt deserve to have their lives cut short and taken from their familes.

They matter in gauging a greater or continuing threat.....but I agree he individually is simply murdering scum

[Destino]

This isn't religiously motivated as much as political and cultural. This guy is motivated by his hatred of Marxism. He thinks that Muslims migration to Europe is a Marxist plot to defeat conservatives nationalists. Religion in this instance is a subset of overall European culture he feels is threatened. Consider this same argument exists in the US with Mexican immigration... And as Catholics and Christians they aren't a religious threat.

These motives matter when the terrorist claims he's a member of a terrorist group. If it exists or not remains to be seen but I bet intelligence agencies are looking into it. The fact that his attack has increased the distribution of his right wing terrorism FAQ under the guise of a manifesto is troubling.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

This isn't religiously motivated as much as political. This guy is motivated by his hatred of Marxism. He thinks that Muslims migration to Europe is a Marxist plot to defeat conservatives nationalists. Religion in this instance is a subset of overall European culture he feels is threatened.

Sounds like Glenn Beck. No, seriously.

[techboy]

I hate religion so much. Can we just get rid of it? There is no good use for it. Just allows people to emphasize differences. And differences are like, such a horrible thing.

You know what's ironic about this quote? Anti-Islamic fervor, with laws banning burkas and minarets and such, is on the rise in Europe, but it's rooted in extremist secular thinking, kind of like you're displaying here.

There's a natural tendency for Americans to see the world through our own lens, and because in this country anti-Islamic sentiment is largely rooted in fundamentalist Christianity, I guess some people are just naturally projecting that on Europe as well, but you need to remember that Europe (and especially Scandanavia) is extremely secular, to the point that many churches only stay open as tourist attractions, and yet anti-Muslim laws are passed. Odd, huh?

Take a look at the list of colleagues in the one quote a page back. Notice all the atheists and agnostics? The news is giving this guy a lot of adjectives... Christian, hunter, Freemason, but the one that seems relevant is "right wing", especially when you read this here:

The right-wing Progress Party, the second-largest political bloc in the country, favors a severely restricted immigration policy, but it has disavowed violence, and some of its most extremist members were pushed out several years ago.

Breivik was a youth member of the party from 1999 until 2004, Norwegian media reported, but he appears to have split from the group because he felt it was not sufficiently anti-immigrant, according to Internet postings attributed to him on a far-right Web site, Document.no .

Based on Breivik’s apparent online writings, Jupskas said, “His whole ideology is really infused by this idea that the Norwegian political establishment has betrayed the country, that they’ve turned this into a multicultural experiment and that someone has to put a stop to it.”

So he left the party because it wasn't extremist enough, and ended up attacking a government building and a left-leaning political conference, and people want to make this out to be about his Christianity? Why not that he's a hunter? I'm leaving out the Freemasonry because Destino is right... that is going to crop up in the conspiracy theories before long.

It's a shame that people need to use a tragedy to attack Islam and Christianity.

---------- Post added July-23rd-2011 at 10:57 PM ----------

This isn't religiously motivated as much as political and cultural. This guy is motivated by his hatred of Marxism. He thinks that Muslims migration to Europe is a Marxist plot to defeat conservatives nationalists. Religion in this instance is a subset of overall European culture he feels is threatened.

I think this is dead on. All of the religious references come down to cultural identity. This would shed some light on why several of the "founding members" are listed as "Christian atheist".

---------- Post added July-23rd-2011 at 10:59 PM ----------

Sounds like Glenn Beck. No, seriously.

Magnify Beck's hysteria, throw in some paranoid schizophrenia and/or other mental illness, and this is pretty much what you get.