Ghost of Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 "Sometimes it's tough, but at the same time you've got to try stand in there and continue to keep your eyes downfield," he said. "Try to feel the rush but try not to look at it. If you start to focus on the rush, you start to lose part of your game." Thanks, Jason, glad to know it's still kinda tough for you to act like an NFL QB and not pay attention to the rush so that you can make plays downfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 The key here is not so much that the players are supporting Zorn, it's that they seem somewhat unified in their criticism of ownership and the front office. Think about it. They're basically saying that as an organization, the leadership needs to be more steady and not allow the rumors and speculation to get out of hand. This is the PLAYERS saying this. I don't recall hearing such an outcry from players on any team in the past. I'm not sure that I have ever heard players criticize their owner, or GM in any sport before. Criticizing the coach, or other players? Sure, plenty of times. But criticizing their own owner? The guy that cuts their checks? Amazing. Truly amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I'm not sure that I have ever heard players criticize their owner, or GM in any sport before.Criticizing the coach, or other players? Sure, plenty of times. But criticizing their own owner? The guy that cuts their checks? Amazing. Truly amazing. Another week of this, and it is all going to be on the record Can you imagine a big name with a big contract like Chris Cooley calling out Dan Snyder directly? Chris Samuels? Portis? DeAngelo Hall? If someone has the balls to say it, on the record, what everyone at Redskins Park knows, that the organization is broken and its Dan Snyder's fault, they will forever be a Redskins hero. And hopefully its someone with an untouchable contract. I'd dare Snyder to cut or trade Cooley if Cooley calls him out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Another week of this, and it is all going to be on the recordCan you imagine a big name with a big contract like Chris Cooley calling out Dan Snyder directly? Chris Samuels? Portis? DeAngelo Hall? If someone has the balls to say it, on the record, what everyone at Redskins Park knows, that the organization is broken and its Dan Snyder's fault, they will forever be a Redskins hero. And hopefully its someone with an untouchable contract. I'd dare Snyder to cut or trade Cooley if Cooley calls him out Would it really surprise you? Dan seems like a total egomaniac to me, I think he'd be willing to take the hit to protect his ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 The key here is not so much that the players are supporting Zorn, it's that they seem somewhat unified in their criticism of ownership and the front office. Think about it. They're basically saying that as an organization, the leadership needs to be more steady and not allow the rumors and speculation to get out of hand. This is the PLAYERS saying this. I don't recall hearing such an outcry from players on any team in the past. QFT! This F.O. has no sense of responsibility, accountability, or leadership. The players are basically calling them out for their cowardice and abdication of leadership in the face of adversity. First 'Los says it's management's fault, then D. Hall says we don't have the right personnel, and now this. Equal parts amazing and unprecedented. Oh, and embarrassing. Really, really embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBurgNGold Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Ringly Bros. is running our FO. This is so sad it isn't even funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvern Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I agree with those claming this WP article's title is not completely accurate; it's more about Skins players wanting resolution to all this media speculation because they don't want to be the ones questioned about something they have no control over. Yet as you read further into the article, it's obvious a lot of the players still like Zorn -- and feel that he's getting blamed for things he shouldn't be blamed for. There are some endorsements for Zorn in all this. But as a player just how loudly do you want speak up like that, if the coach may be gone tomorrow? What if Zorn is replaced by some interim coach like a defensive coordinator who've you admitted may not have gotten the most out of his talent? Or a special teams coach whose charges you conceded may have cost Zorn the Panther game? Nope, at these times it's duck and cover, and the players are having a hard time with that. And what a foolish thing for Snyder to do -- prolonging the suspense, keeping everyone on pins and needles, completely emasculating his coaching staff, and paralyzing his players. That's a terrible way to run a business. This is behavior is more like someone trying to produce a soap opera, or mini-series. I hope Snyder steps up and just slaps down all this media speculation. Dan needs to do the right thing and endorse Zorn for the entire year, and state that he's given Zorn every opportunity (including benching Campbell) to show how this team is pointed in the right direction and to prove Zorn's worth extending for a third year. After all, this franchise needs to ensure some consistency, as it develops a winning identity, without Campbell. Bottom line -- this franchise needs stability both in the short run, and the long-run. And that won't be accomplished by Snyder and Cerrato hinting at the possible appearance of a new 'guest star' featured in a cameo role of Skins Head Coach for next season's edition of ..."All My Coaches." :doh: My unsolicited advice to Dan Snyder -- Just tough it out and stick with Zorn. Concentrate your energies on finding him some decent linemen and a bona fide WCO QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 My unsolicited advice to Dan Snyder -- Just tough it out and stick with Zorn. Concentrate your energies on finding him some decent linemen and a bona fide WCO QB. He can't play-call his way out of a brown paper bag. Talent or no talent, Zorn's no head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paloosa Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Danny has put a tight lip on this because he is trying to decide what he wants to do plus he wants to wait until the end of the season just in case the team turns it around. He also wants to change his impression around the league and with potential new HC's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfbovey Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 In an uncapped year, nobody would have an untouchable contract. Snyder could unload any player he wants with no cap ramifications. Actually, my dream as a fan of this team is that Snyder would hire a GM and that GM would have the power to use the uncapped year as an excuse to blow up the team and get rid of all these dead weight overpaid players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 So you mean even the players are smart enough to see that the Redskins front office is a dysfunctional mess? Nobody can stop Snyder. Not Gibbs, not CP, nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoggLife Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I want Zorn to publicly endorse better play calling. LMFAO But true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 So you mean even the players are smart enough to see that the Redskins front office is a dysfunctional mess?Nobody can stop Snyder. Not Gibbs, not CP, nobody. The fans can, his major weakness is his wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncr2h Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I gotta be honest...I'm very impressed with the way the players are sticking up for Zorn. They've had every opportunity to throw him under the bus - it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that he'll be gone by the end of the month. But still, even when given the opportunity, they aren't blaming Zorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I love our unity and damn, do I wish we could pull it together. I know we can, but this season really hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Rich Fla Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I love our unity and damn, do I wish we could pull it together. I know we can, but this season really hurts. yup remember how long the summer was? Waiting and dreaming of the new season. Bashing the press for telling us the skins would suck. Hmmmmm, guess they were right, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevilhimself Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I think this is the way the FO will change if the players the FA etc refuse to come here and site Vinny or Dan Snyder ... Remember Reggie White who did a wirlwind tour of the NFL but specifically ruled out the Redskins because of their FO .... Imagine if another high profile player did the same now ...but VERY publically told Danny to stuff it ...OR if our first round pick did a Eli and come out in the press and say they would rather never play football again rather than play for the Redskins .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I love our unity and damn, do I wish we could pull it together. I know we can, but this season really hurts. Hip Hip Horray for the "Unified LOSERS!" :doh1::jerk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 In an uncapped year, nobody would have an untouchable contract. Snyder could unload any player he wants with no cap ramifications. Actually, my dream as a fan of this team is that Snyder would hire a GM and that GM would have the power to use the uncapped year as an excuse to blow up the team and get rid of all these dead weight overpaid players. Wooo, now there's a threat for you. Vinnie: OK Rogers, Hall and the rest of you bums that dared call out Lord Farquaad and me for our general suckiness. We're going to eat your contracts and let you go to a less dysfunctional team where you can get another fat signing bonus and have a shot at winning more than 6 games a season. Entire Team: (jostling for position) Oooh oooh me first!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Yusuf, I'm going to have nightmares from your sig :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfan Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Sounds like they're just tired of answering questions about it, not that they really like Zorn. Can't both be true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastate Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Sorry as nice of a guy he is it's clear he's not growing into the head coach position. You can watch film from last year and the games from this year it's easy to see he's made little to no adjustments in his calling or thinking and is stubbornly trying to push forward in a system that doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam291 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 This sounds more like the FO is losing the players in additions to the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccsl2 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 If Zorn is fired, Vinny has to go with him. He's the guy who said Zorn "blew them away in the interview" They knew he didn't have head coaching experience when he was hired. And they also knew the O-Line was a weakness, but still did not address it enough in the offseason. They set Zorn up for failure. If you are not going to give a guy with no previous head coaching experience a chance to grow in the job, then fire the people who picked him and didn't put the players in place to help him succeed. Cerrato's gotta go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Taylor Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 If the players are looking for an endorsement of Zorn, they should make it themselves by executing on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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