alexey Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Fear mongering. Misrepresentation. Intellectual dishonesty. Flawed logic. Both parties do it. Who is more extreme at it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Parties - eh, both are probably the same. Especially since the D party has the early part of the 20th century to make up for. Now - political party driven networks...I think the one that likes to put the "D" in front of disgraced GOPers has a larger track record of distortions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Both are equally evil in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Easily libertarians (and no, not being sarcastic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Which party engages in more extreme distortion of facts ? That's TOO EASY. Whichever party the person is NOT affiliated with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 That would be ALL as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DButz65 Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Neither.. the Chicken Little posters in the ES Stadium forum can claim this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buford T. Justice Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 oh boy this can get ugly. :munchout: I'll go with the Republicans as of late, but I guess it depends on the individuals perception of the facts. I think republican, "what happened to America, give me back my country, freedom, capitalism, what about the troops, the terrorist win if you don't do what we want and if aren't for us then you're against us" set of slogans annoy me. The demos are good at, "you don't care about poor little X, then you're evil, being rich is evil (oh wait I'm rich), anything with green in it is worth spending money, and you're being exploited" set of slogans annoy me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btfoom Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 A friend of mine had a quote above his desk at work (I don't remember who said it) that read: In America, there is only one party - the Industrial Party. The Democrats and Republicans are only different wings. I believe this is basically correct. Sure, if you lean more to the left, you think the GOP is bad and distorts issues more often. Just like if you lean more to the right, you think the Democrats are bad and distort issues more often. In the end, both parties are FAR more interested in keeping power (and specifically, the politicians are mainly concerned with getting elected and staying in office) than they are interested in helping the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljs Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 both suck ass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 libertarians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Should have made it a public poll. That way the partisans on one side can call out everybody who voted against them for being partisan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madison Redskin Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Both parties rely on distorting the truth. That said, I think the GOP has been much better at reducing policy proposals to slogans that tend to oversimplify complex issues and appeal to emotion. On the one hand, I've got to admire the GOP for its organizational skills and effective politiking. On the other hand, I think it's kind of sad that so many people actually end up buying into the crap they sell. Some of their positions can be defended on intellectually honest grounds, but they usually find support based on stupid, hollow, and oftentimes dishonest catchphrases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Some of their positions can be defended on intellectually honest grounds, but they usually find support based on stupid, hollow, and oftentimes dishonest catchphrases. You mean like Pro-Choice? THE COMMON GOOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Easily libertarians (and no, not being sarcastic) libertarians:saber:EDIT: I voted for both are equally bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinthePRF Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Fear mongering. Misrepresentation. Intellectual dishonesty. Flawed logic. Both parties do it. Who is more extreme at it? Fear mongering - Republicans Misrepresentation - Democrats Intellectual dishonesty - About even Flawed logic - Republicans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 FWIW, I haven't voted. I don't know if it's possible to "score" this one. I'll say that my unscientific, uncalibrated, gut says it's the GOP. But I also suspect that part of that is because I have a really short memory, and tend not to remember anything but the latest outrage. For example, what's going through my mind, right now, is "1/4 of Republicans believe that Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen of the US, and another 1/4 say they don't know." To me, that's some serious delusion going on. But then I wonder what a similar poll, eight yours ago, would have said about "Did George W Bush win the election?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 I consider myself a Democrat, but I'm pretty open-minded. I have thought about this question quite a bit in the last few years. I have tried to see where Dems are as bad as the GOP in dishonesty, but I just haven't been able to see it... There are definitely plenty of examples of Dems being dishonest, but to me it seems like Republicans base their whole platform on lies. Maybe I'm just biased, I don't know. But to me it seems like voting Republicans in this poll is a no-brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Fear mongering - RepublicansMisrepresentation - Democrats Intellectual dishonesty - About even Flawed logic - Republicans You left out Independents, Libertarians, Green Party, maybe a couple others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Without a doubt, in recent days, the GOP. No language from the Democrats can match the slander coming from the right. You may say, "The Democrats are fear mongering about the affects or the private insurers," or, "the Democrats are lying about the costs of H.R. 3200," but this is a bit different then the claims coming from the right-wing. Politics does suck, but after watching politics for the last few decades, I think the answer is very easy for anyone who doesn't want to appear biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boofMcboof Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 You know, the corporate elite must be laughing their way to the bank. Divide and conquer is one of the oldest political, sociological and military strategies in the world. We spend all our time fighting, lying, and cursing amongst ourselves and what have we gained? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 I would like to see some examples from both sides in this thread. Preferably from this century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 I would like to see some examples from both sides in this thread. Preferably from this century. Just listen to many of the GOP claims during this health care, and there you have it. Now, what have been the Democratic counter claims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 You know, the corporate elite must be laughing their way to the bank. Divide and conquer is one of the oldest political, sociological and military strategies in the world. We spend all our time fighting, lying, and cursing amongst ourselves and what have we gained? Sitting on the fence isn't very exciting. Sometimes you have to jump into the fray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Fear mongering. Misrepresentation. Intellectual dishonesty. Flawed logic. Both parties do it. Who is more extreme at it? Too easy. Democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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