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I'm sure I'm off on a tangent here (shocking, eh?) but IMO Stroman's value ought not be looked at for his skills as a CB or size as a negative, but what we could REALLY use would be a dynamic "Who TF is THAT" kinda return man, a la Devin Hester. The kid has skills, good hands, quick moves, fluid hips, seems to read blockers, etc., yeah, coach his azz up for CB but somewhere along the line see what he might be able to do returning kicks. He's had some in college, let him get a taste of that in the pros, get that psychological buzz from doin' it against the bigs and see him fly.

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The way Stroman ran that interception back for a TD against Georgia Tech reminded me of Darrell Green.  Although short, Stroman, similar to Green, has a long, smooth running style.  Green's running style was so long and smooth that he didn't appear to be running as fast as he was.

 

One can dream of a Darrell Green 2.0 can't he? ;)

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It's weird to me that people keep pointing to the kid's weight as some huge knock.  Does anyone realize that he weighs exactly 1 pound less than the number 4 overall pick in the draft, Denzel Ward?

 

Greg Stroman - 5' 11", 182 pounds

Denzel Ward - 5'11", 183 pounds

 

Ward is definitely the better player, but if Stroman's only glaring negative is his lack of size, I think we're in pretty good shape.

 

P.S. I know "frame" matters as well, but when I look at both players they both seem to have the same frame from what I can see.

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It's not weight, it's not that he's short - It's the slightness of his frame. How much muscle can he put on and can he take the hits?

Someone posted a photo of Kendall Fuller earlier arguing their similar builds, look at the size difference in the calves, knees and quads/hammy's. 

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30 minutes ago, Silvernon said:

It's not weight, it's not that he's short - It's the slightness of his frame. How much muscle can he put on and can he take the hits?

Someone posted a photo of Kendall Fuller earlier arguing their similar builds, look at the size difference in the calves, knees and quads/hammy's. 

 

I'm really not seeing much of a difference in frame between Ward and Stroman.

 

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If he's playing slot corner, he's usually going against a smaller slot receiver, so size shouldn't be an issue.

If it's returning kicks that you're worried about, if Brandon Banks could do it, he can.

Also, someone was comparing his similar running style to Darrell Green.
Then also compare his bigger frame to Green’s, which makes size a non-issue.

 

In other words, "S'all good man, Stroman !"

 

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11 hours ago, HTTRDynasty said:

It's weird to me that people keep pointing to the kid's weight as some huge knock.  Does anyone realize that he weighs exactly 1 pound less than the number 4 overall pick in the draft, Denzel Ward?

 

Greg Stroman - 5' 11", 182 pounds

Denzel Ward - 5'11", 183 pounds

 

Ward is definitely the better player, but if Stroman's only glaring negative is his lack of size, I think we're in pretty good shape.

 

P.S. I know "frame" matters as well, but when I look at both players they both seem to have the same frame from what I can see.

 

Fred Smoot was 5'11" and 172 pounds. I feel like the size issue is overblown. For a nickel back, his size is fine. A third CB these days is basically a starting player. There is a ton of positional value there. If we had chosen him in the second, I could see being worried about his size and value for his draft slot. In the 7th, he's a straight up steal. He's got the stats to back it up,VT has a history of putting out solid NFL players in the secondary, and we have a secondary coach that really seems to maximize the talent of his players. 

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On 5/20/2018 at 3:17 AM, volsmet said:

 

Thats simply not correct. Stroman is breaking before the QB has even looked in his direction. Thats not a timing pattern, thats a QB fooled by coverage who threw an awful pass, very late, without any confidence, because he felt he needed to get rid of it. It was as grotesque a play as a QB can make, it was a gift to Stroman, a win for Bud Foster. 

 

It couldnt be more obvious, Frazier simply made an awful pass. Timing? The QB winds back up & throws a half hearted pass to a WR that has stopped. Look at the stills, look at the footwork, its just embarrassing QB play. Stroman is quick & made a fine play, but you are mistaken with your analysis. It wasnt a confident throw, it wasnt a timing route, it was a lost QB who didnt get away with an egregious error. Stroman is breaking on it before the QB winds up a 2nd time with his slow release, it looks like a pick6 before this QB even looks in Stromans direction.

 

QB play gets no worse:

 

 

The Wr didnt stop, Stroman beat him to the point of the ball and made an athletic play, which was my original point.  He made a read on the route and broke on it.  Ill advised throw or not, Stroman made a play.  I saw it as a timing play, but you may very well be right.  Watching his head it appears to be his 3rd read which would contradict my point of that.  I'm not too big to admit I was wrong.  The hesitation may have come from an apprehension to throw the ball because Stroman had made a play and sniffed out the route.  The point I was trying to make was in regards to his football instinct and his athletic ability.  Both were on display on that play.  He read the route, broke on it, and beat out a bigger WR to make a play.  Bad qb play or not, the point still holds that he made a good play.  

On 5/19/2018 at 7:04 PM, Silvernon said:


Think the expectation internally is that the future CB1 was drafted in Moreau, but otherwise a first round corner next year becomes almost as likely as NT was this year.

 

Yeah I agree with you.  Moreau could lock up the no. 1 spot for the future this year if he shows out.... I don't know that Dunbar has that ability, so I'd imagine they want to keep him at no. 2.   Well, SORT of no.2 because we don't generally deviate from Left CB and Right CB.  

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On 5/19/2018 at 7:04 PM, Silvernon said:


Think the expectation internally is that the future CB1 was drafted in Moreau, but otherwise a first round corner next year becomes almost as likely as NT was this year.

 

Would much rather we use a first rounder next year on either EDGE, S or QB. 

 

Do we expect Norman to walk next year?

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5 minutes ago, bird_1972 said:

 

Would much rather we use a first rounder next year on either EDGE, S or QB. 

 

Do we expect Norman to walk next year?

I would think so, but who knows? Some of that decision may be based upon the play of Dunny and Moreau. As of now, I would think that the 2019 CB team would be Dunny and Moreau on the outside and Stroman/Holsey in the slot. I would be nice to see all of them play well and play often this year.

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