SkinsFTW Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: I liked what I've read about Smith but alas he wasn't interviewed and I get the vibe that they aren't interviewing more people but will see. Yeah, it really doesn't make much sense to me that they only interviewed 2 offensive-minded coaches... like, I get the whole "leadership is what matters mantra" but at least give some of these guys a chance to blow you away in an interview. It's a flawed process IMO if we come away from this having only ~20% of the candidates we interviewed be offensive minded given how important grooming the next QB is to this franchise. You don't have to hire them, but at least give the Callahan's, Caneles' and Frank Smith's of the world a chance. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderInTheRye Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 11 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: I am actually really warming up to Frank Smith. I understand he wasn't calling the plays, but I'm sure he is responsible for at least some of the success Miami saw the last two years on offense. And he's also been voted the #1 most loved offensive coordinator by the players. Me too! Maybe it was an oversight because deep down they wanted and thought they would get their choice of BJ or Macdonald. If I were them and I wasn't feeling warm and fuzzy about the guys left I'd say **** it and just start interviewing again. Focusing on people like Frank Smith that they missed the first round. To hell with the bad press. What matters is that they pick the best candidate for the most difficult job in all of sports-- turning around a perennial losing moribund team. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtisDriftwood25 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Good news is we might get another Happy Thanksgiving everyone coach hire at this rate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalu44 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Is Frank Smith a known leader/motivator? That seems to be the main skill the FO is looking for in a HC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: Yeah, it really doesn't make much sense to me that they only interviewed 2 offensive-minded coaches... like, I get the whole "leadership is what matters mantra" but at least give some of these guys a chance to blow you away in an interview. It's a flawed process IMO if we come away from this having only ~20% of the candidates we interviewed be offensive minded given how important grooming the next QB is to this franchise. You don't have to hire them, but at least give the Callahan's, Caneles' and Frank Smith's of the world a chance. Unless Peters has a SF contingent centered around the Kubiaks to develop the QB and that’s why this search has been more culture, leadership driven. I too would have brought in Smith. I was also big on Waldron who took the Bears OC position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, OtisDriftwood25 said: Good news is we might get another Happy Thanksgiving everyone coach hire at this rate. We might get a happy Memorial Day hire at this point 🤨 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtisDriftwood25 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) Just hate the message this sends the current candidates and league. Edited January 31 by OtisDriftwood25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, OtisDriftwood25 said: Just hate the message this sends the current candidates. Exactly. If they announce between now and Friday no harm, no foul. If they wait post SB, they could end up losing these three or at a minimum get off on the wrong foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profusion Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 An interesting thing to ponder is that the Commanders are the only team this hiring cycle with both new ownership and a first-time GM. I can't discount the possibility that, in trying to be so thorough, they underestimated the need for urgency in such a compact hiring window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalu44 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, OtisDriftwood25 said: Just hate the message this sends the current candidates and league. Agreed, it's a crappy message. But nothing that a strong/winning season cannot fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderInTheRye Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Kalu44 said: Is Frank Smith a known leader/motivator? That seems to be the main skill the FO is looking for in a HC. That's the million dollar question. --shrug-- The player's definitely love him and speak highly of him, but being perceived as a player's coach can be a two edged sword. You don't want to be a doormat or worse a chronic nipple pinch recipient softy like Jay was. Still, no harm in at least sitting down and talking too him. Edited January 31 by CommanderInTheRye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Veretax said: THe odds are much more favorable that everyone in the pool right now is a Lemon, Edited January 31 by Rufus T Firefly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 What's Jim Zorn up to these days? Let's give that swinging gate thing another try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, OtisDriftwood25 said: Just hate the message this sends the current candidates and league. And what message is that? They n one wowed them? They have a process adn they are working the process and refused to be rushed into a poor decision. There were questions about every candidate. Who says these other teams made good choices? Odds are that most will fail or be at best mediocre. Other people in the NFL undertstand it's a process. They are not going to put off because the team did thier due dilligence and were not rushed. When they do offer a job, they will be fully committed to that person. I do not see it as a bad message at all. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srtman04 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, Toe Jam said: What's Jim Zorn up to these days? Let's give that swinging gate thing another try. Nah....he can sit his Maroon and black ass down, no thank you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Why is Weaver not on any of these odds lists? Did he take a job elsewhere or something? The writing is on the wall that they want it to be Quinn at this point. Who knows if it will be. Even if we want it he has to say yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho fan Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Kalu44 said: Agreed, it's a crappy message. But nothing that a strong/winning season cannot fix. A strong draft is equally as important. I just wonder if there is something behind the scenes with either KC or 49ers. More likely SF. Perhaps someone on the SF staff is interested but wants to keep things quiet as all his attention needs to be on the playoffs and now SB. Virtual interviews aren’t automatically reported right? Isn’t it possible that they have talked to someone that hasn’t been reported? I know it’s just a random thought and probably wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, goskins10 said: And what message is that? They n one wowed them? They have a process adn they are working the process and refused to be rushed into a poor decision. There were questions about every candidate. Who says these other teams made good choices? Odds are that most will fail or be at best mediocre. Other people in the NFL undertstand it's a process. They are not going to put off because the team did thier due dilligence and were not rushed. When they do offer a job, they will be fully committed to that person. I do not see it as a bad message at all. No one would probably buy it, but I'd state that they finished interviewing the people form the Owner/Search Committee list and now they're moving on to me others on Peters' list. Act like it's just a continuation of the process. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinews Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 A lot of myopia and deterministic thinking going on among the fanbase and I get it. Extremely difficult not to be impatient and hungry for positive developments after the horror show of an ownership we just endured. And hopefully I'm wrong but I just think we need to collectively pull back a little and recognize that the path to future success probably extends beyond who the present HC hire will be in year one. We all want it now, and we did get a very promising, young GM. But getting out from under Snyder and the previous regime doesn't automatically reset the entire franchise. Snyder's insidious ways have set us up for failure beyond his tenure–he continues to haunt the organization, it will take some time. But I am still, until further notice, on board with Harris, that he will eventually right this ship. Just going to take longer than one offseason, perhaps longer than one coach's time here. Tl;dr–resuscitating this franchise will happen only by distancing ourselves from Snyder, not through one coaching hire. We have larger problems than filling HC, which is why the hottest coaching candidates didn't take the offer in the first place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraCommander Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Can we get one of those high school coaches that doesn’t believe in punting? With all apologies to Tress. I’d rather not keep taking about how our best player is our punter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Why is Peters laughing it up at the Senior Bowl while we are floundering to find a coach? Is he out of that decision? If so I am getting an uneasy feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtisDriftwood25 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, goskins10 said: And what message is that? They n one wowed them? They have a process adn they are working the process and refused to be rushed into a poor decision. There were questions about every candidate. Who says these other teams made good choices? Odds are that most will fail or be at best mediocre. Other people in the NFL undertstand it's a process. They are not going to put off because the team did thier due dilligence and were not rushed. When they do offer a job, they will be fully committed to that person. I do not see it as a bad message at all. Harris and company should have started that process during the season. They’ve had plenty of time to research and meet the man. All these candidates may have faults but are great men. There was and is no rush. Every other team has hired their next coach. May not have been there number one choice. We have an important draft coming up that needs coaching input from position coaches and cordinators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinews Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, KDawg said: Why is Weaver not on any of these odds lists? Did he take a job elsewhere or something? The writing is on the wall that they want it to be Quinn at this point. Who knows if it will be. Even if we want it he has to say yes. All I know is that I saw a report yesterday he was going to interview with Miami for their DC position. Not sure how that went or what his plans are now that Macdonald is off to Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtisDriftwood25 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, clskinsfan said: Why is Peters laughing it up at the Senior Bowl while we are floundering to find a coach? Is he out of that decision? If so I am getting an uneasy feeling. They joked that he ran from Rapoport today when he asked where they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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