FrFan Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 8 minutes ago, BrentMeisterGeneral said: It really doesn’t phase me if he does magic tricks and has pillow talks with the players, leadership is vital but if he runs a D and they perform badly he’ll be on the hot seat. I’m not even overly convinced by the unit he ran this season. Me either, just trying to find infos about the remaining candidates to see if they fit the bill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HTTRDynasty Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, RWJ said: Where is this info located, HTTRD? https://www.ftnfantasy.com/nfl/tools/team-total-dvoa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) Just now, HTTRDynasty said: https://www.ftnfantasy.com/nfl/tools/team-total-dvoa Thanks, HTTRD. Edited January 30 by RWJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Definitely not losing any sleep over Ben Johnson but it's curious to me that he keeps passing up jobs. Makes me think he's questioning himself and his ability to be the face of a franchise. I can't imagine it was easy to pass up the payday he was going to get and with all the new people we have in the front office it doesn't make sense that he passed on us because he doesn't see value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) I wouldn't be mad at a Dan Quinn / Klint Kubiak pairing (49ers passing game coordinator). In fact, I'd be pretty excited as long as the rest of the offensive staff is built out well. You would have to think Peters has a better chance of landing Kubiak as an OC than the Raiders do. Edited January 30 by HTTRDynasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mh86 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, JSSkinz said: Definitely not losing any sleep over Ben Johnson but it's curious to me that he keeps passing up jobs. Makes me think he's questioning himself and his ability to be the face of a franchise. I can't imagine it was easy to pass up the payday he was going to get and with all the new people we have in the front office it doesn't make sense that he passed on us because he doesn't see value. I don’t necessarily blame him. He’s 37, on a great team, with a chance to run it back. He’ll have options next year and likely from teams that he may feel are better choices. I think he’s also smoking what Dan Campbell is selling and high on the supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, HTTRDynasty said: I wouldn't be mad at a Dan Quinn / Klint Kubiak pairing (49ers passing game coordinator). In fact, I'd be pretty excited as long as the rest of the offensive staff is built out well. You would have to think Peters has a better chance of landing Kubiak as an OC than the Raider do. Agreed but he'd be moving from coast to coast. That might be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, RWJ said: Agreed but he'd be moving from coast to coast. That might be an issue. Maybe. That sort of comes with the territory of being in the NFL though. For example, Peters just did the same thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I'm assuming the final 4 are the 4 we interviewed today and yesterday. Just make the offer tomorrow to who you want and move on. Time to assemble a staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmills67 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Let's just trust in Harris, Peters and Co. If they hire Quinn then let's get behind the team, nobody knows how good Quinn will be 2nd time around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: Maybe. That sort of comes with the territory of being in the NFL though. For example, Peters just did the same thing. I thought about that when I was typing back to you but Peters is making a lot more than an OC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, Chris 44 said: Wonder what he is making now? Big gamble that he will get what he is asking for next year, when Im sure we offered him a lot more than what he currently makes. Not sure the $ angle is the real issue. I doubt we offered him anything before even meeting in person. His agent may have passed along a basic contract structure, or may not have given where we were in the process with him. But you don’t usually make a financial offer at all until you’ve actually decided to make the offer of the job. That clearly didn’t come close to happening (whether we wanted to get there with him or not is another matter). Maybe his agent’s demands were absurd, maybe not—but I doubt he got a money figure from us at all at the point we were at with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho fan Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 30 minutes ago, redskin301 said: Waited too long I did that once... it also appears this team has done the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, markmills67 said: Let's just trust in Harris, Peters and Co. If they hire Quinn then let's get behind the team, nobody knows how good Quinn will be 2nd time around. No thanks. I don’t blind trust anything. But I’m also not foolish enough (while still foolish) to think that my opinion dooms the guy. He could absolutely land here and find success. But I don’t like it and I’m not going to pretend to. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, mh86 said: I don’t necessarily blame him. He’s 37, on a great team, with a chance to run it back. He’ll have options next year and likely from teams that he may feel are better choices. I think he’s also smoking what Dan Campbell is selling and high on the supply. Could be but there are no guarantees, when somebody dangles that check and gives you an opportunity I would jump on it. They play a first-place schedule next year and who knows when Goff will fade like he did at LA. I kind of feel like he knows he's not ready and he tried to price himself out of the market and then got nervous when he found out people may actually be willing to stroke that check. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBigBeard Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 56 minutes ago, CapsSkins said: If it's MacDonald or Quinn, they could go Klint Kubiak for OC. Peters knows him well from SF and Quinn would have the Kyle connection. Quinn has been a head coach and it didn't work out. What makes them think it's going to work out here? Definitely don't want him. I want an up and coming coordinator like MacDonald 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockluc Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, FlyBigBeard said: Quinn has been a head coach and it didn't work out. What makes them think it's going to work out here? Definitely don't want him. I want an up and coming coordinator like MacDonald At least with Raheem you could argue he was dealt a crap hand with Freeman and could see the arguement for him being better this time around. Quinn was handed a top 10 qb and top 3 receiver for his entire tenure and still managed to hover around .500. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, FlyBigBeard said: Quinn has been a head coach and it didn't work out. What makes them think it's going to work out here? Definitely don't want him. I want an up and coming coordinator like MacDonald I prefer MacDonald too but there's a lot of smoke that the FO loves Quinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBigBeard Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, rockluc said: At least with Raheem you could argue he was dealt a crap hand with Freeman and could see the arguement for him being better this time around. Quinn was handed a top 10 qb and top 3 receiver for his entire tenure and still managed to hover around .500. Exactly, we have seen what he is about as a HC (not impressed) he is best suited to be a defensive coordinator. Let's see what a new up and coming coordinator has to offer and go with it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNFLChick Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Was this posted already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Live look at Hank Fraley who thought he was about to get an OC gig: 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBigBeard Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, CapsSkins said: I prefer MacDonald too but there's a lot of smoke that the FO loves Quinn. That's what scares me. I thought we were over this. Dan Snyder type of move. (If it happens) I soooo hope it doesn't. It would be a major letdown. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, FlyBigBeard said: What makes them think it's going to work out here? What made Seattle think it was going to work for Carroll? What made New England think it was going to work for Belichick? What made Kansas City think it was going to work for Reid? What made St. Louis think it was going to work for Dick Vermeil? What made Indianapolis think it was going to work for Tony Dungy? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allskinz Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, justice98 said: Sherm Lewis is still out there kicking. Bingo! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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