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Will Trump be convicted in any of his cases?  

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  1. 1. Will Trump be convicted in any of his cases?

    • Yes. He's going 4 for 4. (including Georgia)
    • He's going to lose 3
    • Two for sure
    • He's only going to get convicted in one
    • No. He's going to skate

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So Trump headed back down to Florida because he's a toddler who was getting antsy sitting in court for 3 days?  I wonder what the Federal judge in Florida will think.  You know, the one he told that he was going to be in NY all week to avoid a deposition in his suit against Michael Cohen.  I'm sure the judge will take it kindly.

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5 hours ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

Why's his lawyer trying to get away from him? Is it just because he’s broke and guilty?

 

Back when he first took office, and discovered that he couldn't find a lawyer, in Washington, (let that soak in), there was a quote in an article. 

 

"He doesn't pay and he won't listen."

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Fulton prosecutors float plea deals to Trump defendants

 

Fulton County prosecutors are floating plea deals to a number of defendants in the election interference case involving former President Donald Trump, according to people with knowledge of the proposals.

 

At least a handful of the now 18 defendants have received offers from the District Attorney’s office — or prosecutors have touched base with their attorneys to gauge their general interest in striking a deal for a reduced charge in exchange for their cooperation, according to the legal sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive ongoing negotiations.

 

It’s common for prosecutors to float plea deals to lower-level defendants in large racketeering cases as they home in on their biggest targets. Trump and his former personal attorney Rudy Giuliani face the most charges in the 41-count indictment, which centers on efforts to overturn the results of Georgia’s 2020 presidential election.

 

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution has learned that Fulton prosecutors have also offered a deal to Michael Roman, who worked as director of Election Day operations for the Trump campaign in 2020. A member of Roman’s legal team told The AJC they rejected the DA’s proposal and that no agreement has been reached.

 

“Basically, the first person who flips always gets the best deal. The next one who comes along probably will get a deal that’s almost as good,” he said. “But at a certain point the addition of an extra person… is less important (to prosecutors)… so they’re not going to get as good a deal.”

 

A spokesman for DA Fani Willis declined to comment. It’s unclear how many defendants have tentatively accepted prosecutors’ offers. The AJC reached out to lawyers for each of the 18 remaining defendants for this story.

 

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Trump allegedly discussed US nuclear subs with foreign national after leaving White House: Sources

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/after-white-house-trump-allegedly-discussed-potentially-sensitive/story?id=103760456

 

Months after leaving the White House, former President Donald Trump allegedly discussed potentially sensitive information about U.S. nuclear submarines with a member of his Mar-a-Lago Club -- an Australian billionaire who then allegedly shared the information with scores of others, including more than a dozen foreign officials, several of his own employees, and a handful of journalists, according to sources familiar with the matter.

 

The potential disclosure was reported to special counsel Jack Smith's team as they investigated Trump's alleged hoarding of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago, the sources told ABC News. The information could shed further light on Trump's handling of sensitive government secrets.

 

Prosecutors and FBI agents have at least twice this year interviewed the Mar-a-Lago member, Anthony Pratt, who runs U.S.-based Pratt Industries, one of the world's largest packaging companies.

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Trump seeks dismissal of D.C. election interference case, citing ‘presidential immunity’

 

Donald Trump on Thursday asked a federal judge in Washington, D.C., to dismiss the election interference indictment against him, claiming he is protected from prosecution in that case by presidential immunity.

 

Trump’s lawyers argued that the acts he is criminally charged with were part of his official presidential duties.

 

Trump is therefore “absolutely immune from prosecution,” the attorneys wrote in a 52-page motion to dismiss the conspiracy case in U.S. District Court in Washington.

 

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He really is desperate.  And his lawyers seem unable to say no to him, filing motions on things Trump pulls out of his ass.

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He's trying to get his Manhattan case dismissed as well:

 

Trump seeks dismissal of hush money case, saying it’s hurting his campaign

 

Lawyers for Donald Trump asked a Manhattan judge to throw out the criminal charges related to Trump’s hush money payments to a porn star, arguing in court filings that the case “has prejudiced President Trump and the public by interfering with his presidential campaign.”

 

Trump’s lawyers denounced the five years it took for Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s office to bring the case against Trump, calling it a “delayed prosecution.” And they criticized the timing of the eventual charges, pointing out they stemmed “from a grand jury investigation that commenced approximately ten weeks after President Trump announced his candidacy.”

 

“After a five-year meandering, halting, and roving investigation that entailed inexplicable and unconstitutional delay, the District Attorney’s Office filed a discombobulated package of politically motivated charges marred by legal defects, procedural failures, discovery violations, and a stubborn refusal to provide meaningful particulars regarding its theory of the case,” the lawyers, Todd Blanche and Susan Necheles, wrote.

 

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At some point he will run out of legal avenues and rope when all these motions go nowhere.  It's fun watching him squirm.  It'll be more enjoyable watching him be jailed.

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4 hours ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

 

Trump allegedly discussed US nuclear subs with foreign national after leaving White House: Sources

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/after-white-house-trump-allegedly-discussed-potentially-sensitive/story?id=103760456

 

Months after leaving the White House, former President Donald Trump allegedly discussed potentially sensitive information about U.S. nuclear submarines with a member of his Mar-a-Lago Club -- an Australian billionaire who then allegedly shared the information with scores of others, including more than a dozen foreign officials, several of his own employees, and a handful of journalists, according to sources familiar with the matter.

 

The potential disclosure was reported to special counsel Jack Smith's team as they investigated Trump's alleged hoarding of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago, the sources told ABC News. The information could shed further light on Trump's handling of sensitive government secrets.

 

Prosecutors and FBI agents have at least twice this year interviewed the Mar-a-Lago member, Anthony Pratt, who runs U.S.-based Pratt Industries, one of the world's largest packaging companies.

 

Yeah, but knowing Trump, what intelligence service would consider his droppings to be credible?  

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On 10/2/2023 at 12:18 AM, China said:

 

Trump continues playing games.  He's now file another emergency request to postpone his deposition in the Cohen suit (he filed against Cohen) because he's afraid to be deposed.  His excuse this time is that he's going to attend the Oct 2nd trial in NY this week.  We'll see if he actually shows.  His deposition has now been scheduled for October 9th (which is a holiday) so he can't claim he's attending his other trial, and it'll be in NY, not FL, so he can't claim travel issues (since he's going to be in NY, right? ;)).  We'll see what excuse he comes up with next, but he may just finally give up an drop his suit rather than be deposed.

 

1 hour ago, EmirOfShmo said:

Wasn't sure where to put this...TFG is such a loser

 

 

 

Called it.

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Cannon grants Trump delay in Espionage Act case amid report he allegedly shared nuclear secrets at Mar-a-Lago

 

Within hours of multiple news outlets reporting that shortly after he left office, Donald Trump allegedly shared classified secrets about America’s nuclear submarines with a member of his Mar-a-Lago resort, U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon granted the ex-president a delay he had requested in Special Counsel Jack Smith’s case alleging violations of the Espionage Act.

 

Friday morning, Judge Cannon granted Donald Trump a temporary pause in the case alleging he unlawfully removed from the White House, retained, and refused to return – even after being served a subpoena – classified documents. Photos of boxes allegedly containing some of the hundreds of classified and top secret documents he had stored on a stage and in a restroom at his Mar-a-Lago resort and residence have been widely shared online.

 

The Messenger reported that the “federal judge overseeing Donald Trump’s classified documents criminal case on Friday temporarily paused series of key pre-trial deadlines tied to the prosecutors’ sharing of sensitive evidence that the former president is entitled to while mounting his defense.”

 

Judge Cannon “signed a paperless order halting for now the deadlines she’d previously set stretching from October through May, when the trial for Trump and three of his co-defendants is currently slated to begin in Fort Pierce, Fla.”

 

“Cannon’s order doesn’t address the May 20, 2024, start date for the trial itself. But it does note all of the scheduled deadlines tied to classified information are on hold ‘pending consideration and resolution’ of a Trump motion filed last month that had proposed a new timeline.”

 

On Thursday, The New York Times reported, “In a court filing on Wednesday night, Mr. Trump’s legal team proposed moving the start of the trial to mid-November from May 20, the date set by Judge Aileen M. Cannon.”

 

Judge Cannon has yet to respond to that request.

 

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His actions coupled together (e.g. sharing intelligence and fomenting a coup) sound like treason.....👀

 

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Furthermore, 18 U.S.C § 2381, states that a person guilty of treason against the United States “shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”

 

 

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Judge Chutkan mostly shuts down Trump's DC delay requests 'with a hint of snark'

 

Donald Trump notched a win on Friday when Judge Cannon granted him a pause in his Mar-a-Lago classified documents schedule, but he wasn't so fortunate in his D.C. elections case.

 

Trump filed multiple requests for delay in the election subversion case before Judge Chutkan, but she mostly rejected the former president's arguments.

 

National security attorney Bradley Moss drew attention to the filing.

 

"Judge Chutkan largely rejects Trump's requests to delay the DC filing and trial deadlines, although she gives him some additional time to file some motions," Moss wrote. "Also rejects request to order declassified version of Government's CIPA filing."

 

In Chutkan's filing, which mostly rejects two separate motions for delay filed by Trump's legal team, one legal expert flagged evidence that Chutkan may be losing patience with the defendant's tactics for delay.

 

Lawfare's senior editor Roger Parloff said he initially missed a "hint of snark" in the ruling.

 

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Special counsel accuses Trump lawyers of making "distorted and exaggerated" claims in bid to delay documents trial

 

Special counsel Jack Smith and his team of prosecutors accused lawyers for former President Donald Trump of making "distorted and exaggerated" claims about their access to classified information as part of their bid to delay the scheduled May 2024 trial in the federal case involving the former president's handling of sensitive government records after leaving office.

 

In a new filing submitted Monday, the special counsel urged U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, who is overseeing the case brought in South Florida, to deny Trump's request to delay the trial until after the November 2024 presidential election, arguing his lawyers failed to provide a "credible justification" for doing so.

 

"Their unfounded claims of Government noncompliance with discovery obligations do not support their request," federal prosecutors working with Smith wrote. "Their claims about their inability to review classified information are distorted and exaggerated."

 

Justice Department lawyers said the "vast majority" of classified material collected during the course of the government's investigation is available to Trump and his two co-defendants, aide Walt Nauta and Mar-a-Lago property manager Carlos De Oliveira. Smith and his team also argued that the defense's claims about the unclassified information collected during the probe are "inaccurate."

 

"The defendants have repeatedly distorted the comprehensive, organized, and timely unclassified discovery that the Government has produced, in service of an attack on the promptness and thoroughness of the productions and an allegation that the Government is in 'ongoing non-compliance,'" prosecutors wrote. "The facts prove otherwise."

 

Trump's lawyers asked Cannon last week to delay the trial, currently set to begin May 20, until after the Nov. 5, 2024, election, citing the status of discovery, a lack of necessary secure facilities, and litigation under the Classified Information Procedures Act, which governs how classified information can be being used in the case.

 

In their filing opposing Trump's request, Justice Department lawyers noted that they have turned over more than 1.1 million pages of unclassified documents and all surveillance footage from Mar-a-Lago obtained before May. The latest batch of information was turned over Friday, the special counsel said. With that production, prosecutors said they had provided Trump's lawyers with "all unclassified discovery of which it is aware," aside from certain agents' emails and text messages. 

 

"The Government's production of unclassified discovery has been prompt, comprehensive, thorough, and organized," the special counsel's office argued. "The defense has complete access to it today, more than seven months before trial."

 

Federal prosecutors also rebutted claims from Trump's lawyers about their access to classified material collected during the investigation, calling them "inaccurate" and "misleading." 

 

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