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1 minute ago, CommandB11 said:

Its not. Keim doesnt help posture

 

There's still 30 mins left - if someone calls with a great offer, I'm sure the FO would consider. If Cleveland calls in 10 minutes and offers a 3rd for Jacoby, you don't think they'd accept?

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34 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said:

I mean, the offers must have been terrible if that's the best we can do. 

 

It can be both disappointing and illuminating. As in, the NFL really doesn't think much of him and so that deal is probably one to be happy with. 

It doesn't really matter, the SF pick was gonna be late 80s or early 90s, compensatory picks are late 90s or early 100s. 

 

What this tells me is that the other offers were 4ths or worse. 

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6 minutes ago, bh32 said:

You overrate Sweats and Youngs talent..neither player has ever gotten double digit sacks or taken over a game and you want to pay them 25 mil a year? Because that is what they would cost to keep..they are not even close to the elite edge players.

Oh, you must be new here.

 

When GC is all-in on a player he’s watched tape on, they are can’t miss, gods gift to the position players and only coaches can fail them.

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Just now, KDawg said:


He’s going to die on that hill for a week and then he’ll like something they do and be all in on the ownership group.

 

I don't get how anyone can't look at what happened today and not think this franchise is better off.  

 

It's obvious.  Harris is in control and Ron and Del Taco and the rest are dead men walking.  I've watched a lot of Commies football over the years, I've seen coach after coach and team after team limp through November and December and I've somehow survived.  Watching Paddleboat Ron and his D-coordinator who looks like a washed up porn star fumble around on the sidelines for another two months ain't **** to me.  I've done it literally a few dozen times before.

 

Harris is going to pick his guys in the offseason and then we can start talking.  Whoever comes in will inherit some good picks and can create a good foundation to build from.  

 

Why anyone would want to hold on to Sweat and the league's highest paid cheerleader makes no sense to me.  Odds are they'd both walk and we'd be left with nothing of value in return.  Yeah it sucks that it came to this but whatever.

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Chase for a 3rd... I think of it as a disappointment, then I remember it's only a disappointment when I consider his draft position, not his performance.

 

He'll be a journeyman in a couple years. I clowned him, then gave him credit when he actually looked like he wanted to be out there, then realized what kind of player he was over the last several weeks. Feast against bad O-Lines, nowhere against good O-Lines and can even get held-up by TE's. It may not be desire, it's NFL-ability.

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34 minutes ago, Est.1974 said:

Young has been dumped for what will essentially be about pick 100.

 

Not much confidence in him around the league.

These trades are as much about contracts as anything. A guy with half a season left on his deal no matter how good he is isn't going to be that valuable (unless he's a franchise QB). The truth is, the Sweat trade is the abberation, the Young trade strikes me as normal. Young's a half season rental. Nobody sane would give up a high end day 2 or day 1 pick for that. 

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7 minutes ago, CommandB11 said:

Now i hate today even more. Either have a fire sale or dont. Dont go half way. Idiots!!!!!!!!!

 

they may not have significant offers for Gibson, Samuel and Fuller, which means only Brissett is being held back.  And he's worth more than a sixth. Hell, we could get better than a sixth comp pick

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Just now, ntotoro said:

Chase for a 3rd... I think of it as a disappointment, then I remember it's only a disappointment when I consider his draft position, not his performance.

 

He'll be a journeyman in a couple years. I clowned him, then gave him credit when he actually looked like he wanted to be out there, then realized what kind of player he was over the last several weeks. Feast against bad O-Lines, nowhere against good O-Lines and can even get held-up by TE's. It may not be desire, it's NFL-ability.

He will hold a lombardi in SF as the bookend to Bosa. And stay there for the next 7+ years feasting on o lines across the league. And we will remember we traded him for basically a 4th.

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Just now, CommandB11 said:

He will hold a lombardi in SF as the bookend to Bosa. And stay there for the next 7+ years feasting on o lines across the league. And we will remember we traded him for basically a 4th.

 

He can hold it, caress it, lay down at night next to it, whisper sweet nothings to it if they do... whatever. Good for him. Doesn't make him an elite player or worth whatever he thinks he'll get next year. 

 

That said, zero chance they're winning a SB this year.

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Just now, CommandB11 said:

He will hold a lombardi in SF as the bookend to Bosa. And stay there for the next 7+ years feasting on o lines across the league. And we will remember we traded him for basically a 4th.

We’ll also have people who understood that a 4th is better than nothing just like people keep harping on trading champ when he didn’t want to be here.  He wasn’t resigning and we weren’t going to overpay another dl for partial production

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1 minute ago, CommandB11 said:

He will hold a lombardi in SF as the bookend to Bosa. And stay there for the next 7+ years feasting on o lines across the league. And we will remember we traded him for basically a 4th.

 

The only way he's going to hold a Lombardi is if he's shining it while working for the Fox broadcast team before handing it to the commish.  

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I have concerns about this, but it also makes perfect sense.

 

Every new owner wants to immediately put their stamp on their new team. Harris took over the team way too late to allow him to do anything meaningful. The trade deadline finally gave him the chance to play with his new toy.

 

On the one hand, it's perfectly normal.

 

On the other hand, Dan Snyder had the patience to wait for the off-season. (And, yes, I know the 99 team was good so Dan got to celebrate wins).

 

Next year is going to be weird. I assume we're going to have a new GM, a new coach, a new staff, a decent amount of draft capital......and an awful defense, a terrible offensive line, and a 5th round QB.

 

I have no earthly idea what the long-term plan is as this build is going to be just this side of an expansion team.  

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I just wish the Harris purchase would have happened sooner and we didn’t waste this year.  But it is what it is.  Get ready for a 3 year rebuild with new coaching staff and new front office next year.  Helpful hint for the new administration -address the offensive line, please.

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Just now, Spaceman Spiff said:

 

The only way he's going to hold a Lombardi is if he's shining it while working for the CBS broadcast team before handing it to the commish.  

 

Fixed for accuracy, since CBS is airing the SB this year.

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Just now, Csup said:

I just wish the Harris purchase would have happened sooner and we didn’t waste this year.  But it is what it is.  Get ready for a 3 year rebuild with new coaching staff and new front office next year.  Helpful hint for the new administration -address the offensive line, please.

 

The team doesn't need a 3 year rebuild. One aggressive off-season with good drafting and FAs should keep the team in Wildcard contention + trending upward. 

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