oraphus Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 lol to all the hair puller... don't worry! our D will be just as bad with Henry and Toohill 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Going Commando said: We've got another meddlesome know-nothing owner in town, toying with the roster in the middle of a season and ****ing over his football people. I can't believe so many people in here are cheering this ****. You all were totally full of **** when you used to **** about Dan Snyder doing this stuff with the team. I don't think its near the same thing. The new ownership has to make moves for the long term health of the franchise because the current staff can't be trusted to. This is a staff the owners inherited and are essentially stuck with. I don't think this will be standard operating procedure for Harris once he gets his people into place. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Going Commando said: We've got another meddlesome know-nothing owner in town, toying with the roster in the middle of a season and ****ing over his football people. I can't believe so many people in here are cheering this ****. You all were totally full of **** when you used to **** about Dan Snyder doing this stuff with the team. You’ll be able to double up on your rants when we then use the draft picks on players you don’t like 😂 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 So what are our top needs for those 3 picks in the top 50 selections? 1. OT is clearly the big need and probably BPA pick as well in the first round (assuming we pick top 10 which looks likely). 2. DE now becomes a need 3. ILB - still probably the weakest part of the D. 4. CB - Forbes is struggling badly and Fuller is a free agent. St Juste has had a down year as well overall. 5. G - LG is still not solved. Stromberg is probably more of C than G. 6. RB/3rd down back - Gibson wont be back. 7. TE - Thomas is having a decent year but he's not really a threat to go vertical down a seam anymore. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmania123 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, oraphus said: lol to all the hair puller... don't worry! our D will be just as bad with Henry and Toohill I think Toohill looks pretty damn good in limited action. Lets see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, MartinC said: So what are our top needs for those 3 picks in the top 50 selections? 1. OT is clearly the big need and probably BPA pick as well in the first round (assuming we pick top 10 which looks likely). 2. DE now becomes a need 3. ILB - still probably the weakest part of the D. 4. CB - Forbes is struggling badly and Fuller is a free agent. St Juste has had a down year as well overall. 5. G - LG is still not solved. Stromberg is probably more of C than G. 6. RB/3rd down back - Gibson wont be back. 7. TE - Thomas is having a decent year but he's not really a threat to go vertical down a seam anymore. Don't overlook WR as a need. Samuel is a FA. McLaurin will be 30 soon. Dotson is good but not elite. If we have a shot at Harrison jr or the FSU kid and they're the best player available you have to consider it. WR is a prime position in today's NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAskins Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Let's hope with the added draft picks it won't be RR and Mayhew running the draft. I think this is the beginning of the end for the coaching staff. Josh Harris has seen enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 So, in the last decade, Allen and Payne are the only first rd picks to see a 2nd contract, not counting Scherff getting tagged. Now, it's obviously too early for the last several picks, but these last few are not off to a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, RVAskins said: Let's hope with the added draft picks it won't be RR and Mayhew running the draft. I think this is the beginning of the end for the coaching staff. Josh Harris has seen enough. Oh they're absolutely out of here. In fact I wouldn't be shocked if Rivera resigned midseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actorguy1 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, MartinC said: So what are our top needs for those 3 picks in the top 50 selections? Sooo... Shopping List: Everything 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Going Commando said: We've got another meddlesome know-nothing owner in town, toying with the roster in the middle of a season and ****ing over his football people. I can't believe so many people in here are cheering this ****. You all were totally full of **** when you used to **** about Dan Snyder doing this stuff with the team. This is true - but its NOT Dan Snyder and its clearly a lame duck collection of football people. This is not an owner going fantasy shopping for an 'all star' team a la Dan Snyders early years. Its an owner setting the table for the next GM and HC. It does send a bad signal to the current coaching staff and team though. Everyone can now see the writing spay painted on the wall about the rest of this season. It could get ugly. But then it probably was going to anyway. 9 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, MartinC said: So what are our top needs for those 3 picks in the top 50 selections? 1. OT is clearly the big need and probably BPA pick as well in the first round (assuming we pick top 10 which looks likely). 2. DE now becomes a need 3. ILB - still probably the weakest part of the D. 4. CB - Forbes is struggling badly and Fuller is a free agent. St Juste has had a down year as well overall. 5. G - LG is still not solved. Stromberg is probably more of C than G. 6. RB/3rd down back - Gibson wont be back. 7. TE - Thomas is having a decent year but he's not really a threat to go vertical down a seam anymore. Damn, that's a lot of needs. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 so, we'll pair Chicago's second and San Fran's third for one trade and our second and third to move back into the first round twice and have three first round picks, right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oraphus Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, actorguy1 said: I would trade Ron for a 7th rd pic in a heartbeat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, actorguy1 said: Ugh. So its a way bottom of the 3rd pick. That is a bit disappointing. Just now, justice98 said: Damn, that's a lot of needs. lol Yep. We have a lot of holes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, MrJL said: so, we'll pair Chicago's second and San Fran's third for one trade and our second and third to move back into the first round twice and have three first round picks, right? At the very least, we'll have lots of ammo to move up for a QB if that's the direction the new staff wants to go in. Lets say we have a top 10 pick and the Bears 2nd is also top 5 in the 2nd round. That's three top 40 picks and then the two third rounders. Enough to move up to get Maye or Williams without having to mortgage too much in terms of future picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Pretty telling of what the league thinks of Chase. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, MartinC said: Ugh. So its a way bottom of the 3rd pick. That is a bit disappointing. maybe we got some conditional stuff. So if he balls out it'll get the higher ones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Consigliere Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, actorguy1 said: Just the billionth reminder why you don't build defenses before you've got your QB. We built a world class DL with four top 10-15 talents in the draft, included two different guys with top 5 grades and still were straight --- the entire time they were here (yes we made the playoffs, but everyone knows when we made the playoffs, we still were hot garbage 7-9 type teams). I don't mind targeting guys with their talent: Allen, Young, Sweat etc, when they represent value and when we actually have a QB, but if we don't have a QB, and the QB classes are good (like '18, '20 etc), you have to get the freaking QB. It's just idiotic team building strategy to do otherwise. Hopefully we learned our lesson, but with people talking LB on day 1 or 2, and not getting a QB, I suspect many of the fans havent. Regardless, at this point, we'll have 5 top 90ish picks, and 3 top 40-45 picks. Not bad at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Warhead36 said: I don't think its near the same thing. The new ownership has to make moves for the long term health of the franchise because the current staff can't be trusted to. This is a staff the owners inherited and are essentially stuck with. I don't think this will be standard operating procedure for Harris once he gets his people into place. You think Josh Harris knows what's best for the long term health of the franchise? A neophyte who knows absolutely nothing about football or team building. Dude couldn't even appear sober or string a coherent sentence together as Troy Aikman and Joe Buck tried to baby step him through a softball interview. He doesn't know the first ****ing thing about running an NFL team, and here he is forcing trades of two of our best players at his first ****ing trade deadline. You can rationalize this any way you want, and tell yourself that it won't happen again. Harris has crossed a line that should be unacceptable to any fan who watched the Snyder era unfold. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Koolblue13 said: Pretty telling of what the league thinks of Chase. Yeah I'm surprised about that as well. I thought he'd have more clout but really the league doesn't respect him much at all. He's actually statistically having a nice season but smart teams can see it's mostly a fugazi because he pads his stats against bad QBs/OLs but tends to disappear against top competition. I still would have preferred to keep him over only getting a 3rd, but I can understand the new ownership wanting to get something for him instead of risking letting him walk for nothing and setting up their future FO with more assets to work with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Who else can we trade in the next hour? What can we get for Gibson? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, The Consigliere said: Just the billionth reminder why you don't build defenses before you've got your QB. We built a world class DL with four top 10-15 talents in the draft, included two different guys with top 5 grades and still were straight --- the entire time they were here (yes we made the playoffs, but everyone knows when we made the playoffs, we still were hot garbage 7-9 type teams). I don't mind targeting guys with their talent: Allen, Young, Sweat etc, when they represent value and when we actually have a QB, but if we don't have a QB, and the QB classes are good (like '18, '20 etc), you have to get the freaking QB. It's just idiotic team building strategy to do otherwise. Hopefully we learned our lesson, but with people talking LB on day 1 or 2, and not getting a QB, I suspect many of the fans havent. Regardless, at this point, we'll have 5 top 90ish picks, and 3 top 40-45 picks. Not bad at all. when we started building the D-Line we still had Kirk, and when we lost Kirk we got Alex Smith both of whom in the right cirsumstances could have been good enough QBs for a game changing D-line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho fan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Did we hire a GM? Who is in charge at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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